Not at all. Look up. Polls are bullshit=the point.
Jesus, I swear it’s like McLaughlin group around here
I looked up the group as the show was long before my time and I had never heard of it. Don’t know what was meant by it but may kill some time watching an old espisode!
Dana Carvey on SNL did a great spoof years ago.
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Sure thing. I’m sure if the poll was the opposite - and 62% of people polled were supportive of the protests - you’d still think polls were meaningless.
Yes.
California just announced they will not issue permits for protesting on state property.
The whole idea of a permit in the first place is ridiculous. Hopefully people ignore this and just do it anyway, for whatever cause they may be peaceably assembling.
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Can’t wait for all the facts on this one:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1257336067453259776
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Didn’t see the cause of the first incident or how it was escalated. As for the second incident… It takes a special kind of dumb to aggressively get up in the face of a cop high AF on adrenaline and not expect to get taken down. Hard.
I typically side with cops if i don’t have a clear idea of all events leading to the physical altercation. But that might just be my white privilege.
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Me too, but it sure looks like that cop was looking to beat someone’s ass, and he did.
Nobody knows how they will react in a heated situation until they find themselves in one. I don’t have a problem armchair quarterbacking this one to a degree because I’ve been in the middle of worse and acted better.
I couldn’t see how the guy was “flexing” on the cop. Maybe he was acting like he had a gun, but the cop put his taser AWAY before moving on the guy. That tells me that the danger wasn’t there. This was a guy the cop knew he could whoop. A predator knows when he’s looking at easy prey.
I’ve been “flexed on” more than most, and I’ve never beaten anyone’s ass over it, let alone sent them to jail just because I could. I could have done both in more than a few situations, but I don’t get off on hurting anyone or changing their life because they decided to disrespect me somehow. I’ve known a couple of guys who do get off on that, and any job with violence in the description will probably attract those types to varying degrees.
The problem we now have is the opportunity for these types to act with less accountability and much more tolerance for unnecessary harm. It is an existential emergency, after all. Gotta break a few eggs, etc…
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Eh, the cop didn’t body slam the guy, he threw a couple punches to the body, and open hand slapped his head a few times. And to me, it looks like the guy only “flexed” on the cop once the taser was put away.
There are some recent videos of NYPD officers involved in detaining someone getting sucker punched by a random dude who then runs away, so I can understand their lack of patience with someone flexing on them.
On the whole, I guess I just don’t see this as outrageous… Even if it could/should have been handled better.
I don’t mean offense by this, but you and I seem to look at violence on camera and somehow draw very different conclusions. It seems evident that the guy was already moving backwards as the cop chased him away. How much more compliant should he have been, and what sort of “flex” do you imagine would warrant the kind of response he got? Which was, by the way, an ass-beating and an arrest (presumably).
If you consider that all of violence, close contact and entanglement in the legal system transpired to enforce social distancing guidelines, well, at what point does it become silly to you?
Or does it at all?
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The way I see it is the guy was following directions to “move back”… That is until the cop put away his taser, at which point he stepped up into the cops face.
It’s the message it sends to others to abide by the law.
Should the cops just let perps go as soon as the economics don’t add up? Just struggle and resist until it’s not worth the cops time and effort and they will let you go free… Or not even try to stop you in the first place? I think that rules/laws without enforcement cease being followed in short order.
The merits of particular law/rules are another topic, IMO.
The original suspect had the cops called on him by the store. He was still around, obviously causing problems by the time cops arrived. What are the cops supposed to do? What is the store supposed to do?
Could be, but the cop closed that distance to whoop some ass. If he was in danger that taser never would have been holstered or it would be guns out. It seemed like it was just some skinny punk kid to me, but maybe he was an OG killer.
Who knows all of the circumstances and angles of this encounter? If I entertain the idea that this did, in fact, stem from a social distancing enforcement call then yes, I find it highly troubling. This won’t end anywhere good, and the rationale will be eagerly applied to the next perceived existential threat unless there is hard push back.
Now, not then.
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The original suspect had the cops called on him by the store. He was still around, obviously causing problems by the time cops arrived. What are the cops supposed to do? What is the store supposed to do in these instances?
Piles of garbage, roving packs of Goon Cops, possible virus carriers all around?
Thank God I’m a Country Boy!
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The details there are what’s important. Was he being a dick about it? Maybe? It’s possible he assaulted the cops. I’m not sure. All I know is opening up tip lines like DeBlasio and expecting cops to enforce things like social distancing guidelines will lead to a lot more outcomes like this.
Maybe they are necessary for the survival of a healthy society. A new picture of how things need to be so we can grow as people.
Regardless of that, it sure looks like that kid got his ass beaten and arrested for no good reason besides pissing off the cop somehow.
The stupid actions of that onlooker, even if he challenged a cop, does not excuse the insane behavior of the cop. Having your adrenaline pumping doesn’t just give you a free reign to do anything, and working in a city means there will be onlookers and upset people every time you arrest someone.
This is being used as a power trip for some.
On the flip side, let’s also pay attention to the fact that a lot of the people who are the first to claim about media sensationalism are using social media sensationalism by posting about every dumb arrest around the country.
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Fwiw, eyewitness say the suspect was sitting too close to another person on the corner and patrolling cops walking by asked him to separate, and then he became mad, etc, etc.
The NYPD’s union wants out of “social distancing” patrols badly. It’s a no-win for the cops.
Your description sounds like how these things will play out more and more, if we expect enforcement. I’m sure as more people social distance themselves into greater hardship everyone will become increasingly pleasant for police to deal with as they go about enforcing these guidelines.
Somehow that guy getting upset with the police turned into a melee, but who knows how that happened?
All I know is that on my walks, drives and trip to the store since our new guidelines took effect, I observed maybe 20 percent compliance with masks. Purely anecdotal, a rough guess at best.
Do you think the state should crack down hard on these people? Soft? In-between somehow? Not at all?