True. I have no involvement in the thing as well so this should be first and last time.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
Well do know any lawyers who operate at 6pm at night?[/quote]
some do. i have mine on speed dial in my cell phone. but alot work odd office hours.
id pay $600 peace of mind for a lawyer to properly help you out and get you a bulletproof letter/interview.
what are the chances that the person that most likely did it knows of your history w/ this kid and is going to try to tell the cops you did it?
i would assume that saying ‘i need a lawyer’ makes you look guilty, like if you tell them that they cant search your car, they think you have something you shouldnt in there. its a catch 22. but you dont want your words turned on you - if you misspeak once it could be a murder charge…
Ever seen a news story about someone getting released from prison after MANY years because suddenly it is proven by DNA or some other shit that they DID NOT do the crime they were serving time for? I have heard of that happening several times lately!!!
DO NOT BE THERE SCAPEGOAT…HIRE THE LAWYER REGARDLESS OF COST!
[quote]trevor16 wrote:
I am a police constable and in my experience I would suggest that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be concerned about. You don’t need to waste your money on a lawyer when you have had no involvement in this incident. Murder investigations are often very complex and there will be dozens of people spoken to who have no involvement in the incident. This is because as a police officer you never know who will be able to provide some insight into the situation without speaking to everyone who knows this guy.
Just because they are asking you questions doesn’t mean you are a suspect. I don’t know where you are from, but in Canada, prior to an interview with a suspect the police must provide the individual with an opportunity to speak with a lawyer and explain to them that they have no responsibility to say anything. I don’t know how it works in the USA, but I would assume it is similar as in Canada.
It looks to me as if you are just being spoken to in an attempt to determine if you can provide any information that could assist with the investigation. I would suggest to you that you tell the truth and not worry about the issue. [/quote]
Excuse me, but you’re a fucking idiot.
You know, because innocent people are never charged. Innocent people never go to jail. Innocent people have never been freed from death row. Are you serious? Please stop posting. Go eat a donut and write a ticket.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I just talked with a lawyer, who I am conferencing with after I get off work tonight. He said it would be $600 he estimated, just to meet up and prepare for the situation, prepare a written statement, and sit in with me for the questioning.
Do you guys think this is a decent price?[/quote]
It is a fair price, but make sure he has criminal law experience - and I’m not just talking municipal stuff. Make sure the guy has CRIMINAL TRIAL experience. That written statement will NEVER go away so it has to be void of any error or openings.
[quote]3hitter wrote:
Disassemble the gun and get rid of the pieces in multiple locations. Burn all of your clothes and shoes. Wash your body and hair multiple times with a harsh liquid to remove all traces of gun shot residue. Don’t forget to do under your nails. For christ sakes stop using his cell phone and credit cards. When asked say “What $12,000.00?” You should also get rid of the Gameboy Advance. If you want you can send the money and Gameboy to me. PM me I’ll give you a P.O. Box #. I’ll hold on to them for you until you’re through this. Good Luck.[/quote]
I’ll safeguard the $12,000 until this passes. I’ll invest it for you. I’m about ready to embark on a get down or lay down campaign.
[quote]trevor16 wrote:
I am a police constable and in my experience I would suggest that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be concerned about. You don’t need to waste your money on a lawyer when you have had no involvement in this incident. Murder investigations are often very complex and there will be dozens of people spoken to who have no involvement in the incident. This is because as a police officer you never know who will be able to provide some insight into the situation without speaking to everyone who knows this guy.
Just because they are asking you questions doesn’t mean you are a suspect. I don’t know where you are from, but in Canada, prior to an interview with a suspect the police must provide the individual with an opportunity to speak with a lawyer and explain to them that they have no responsibility to say anything. I don’t know how it works in the USA, but I would assume it is similar as in Canada.
It looks to me as if you are just being spoken to in an attempt to determine if you can provide any information that could assist with the investigation. I would suggest to you that you tell the truth and not worry about the issue. [/quote]
All lies.
[quote]Rohnyn wrote:
I just talked with a lawyer, who I am conferencing with after I get off work tonight. He said it would be $600 he estimated, just to meet up and prepare for the situation, prepare a written statement, and sit in with me for the questioning.
Do you guys think this is a decent price?[/quote]
Yes. I would be happy with it.
(In the sense that I can ever be happy with having to spend $600 on a situation that got forced on me like this.)
Dont consider yourself as a suspect… If you ve done nothing why not giving answers at the police. If you were a suspect, they would arrest you already and give you your rights. There is no reason for worry about it. They questionned you as a witness(even if you werent on scene)…not as a suspect…because of the past and the relation between you and the guy. Its a normal way of investegation .
Cooperation is always the best way to get out of a situation like that…And yes i m a cop and we are not all screwers…and for the one who tells that we are eating donuts…find another stupid sentence…like we ve never heard this one…
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Rohnyn, you have come up with a ridiculous array of posts since coming to these boards. I am finding it hard to believe even half of them.[/quote]
im in agreement with you…
[quote]Charles3264 wrote:
Dont consider yourself as a suspect… If you ve done nothing why not giving answers at the police. If you were a suspect, they would arrest you already and give you your rights. There is no reason for worry about it. They questionned you as a witness(even if you werent on scene)…not as a suspect…because of the past and the relation between you and the guy. Its a normal way of investegation . Cooperation is always the best way to get out of a situation like that…And yes i m a cop and we are not all screwers…and for the one who tells that we are eating donuts…find another stupid sentence…like we ve never heard this one…[/quote]
You arrest everyone immediately upon having suspicion that they might have been the one who committed a crime and you are still a cop?
There is no way, from the information provided, that one can conclude that the police have no suspicion that the OP is the murderer. He may well presently be formally classified as a person of interest rather than a suspect, but that distinction would not change a thing regarding whether he needs a lawyer or not.
Btw, exactly why would you think, if you do, that the police would want further information from the OP when they are already informed there has been no contact for years, if they have no thoughts along the lines that the OP may be the murderer?
[quote]trevor16 wrote:
I am a police constable and in my experience I would suggest that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be concerned about. You don’t need to waste your money on a lawyer when you have had no involvement in this incident. Murder investigations are often very complex and there will be dozens of people spoken to who have no involvement in the incident. This is because as a police officer you never know who will be able to provide some insight into the situation without speaking to everyone who knows this guy.
Just because they are asking you questions doesn’t mean you are a suspect. I don’t know where you are from, but in Canada, prior to an interview with a suspect the police must provide the individual with an opportunity to speak with a lawyer and explain to them that they have no responsibility to say anything. I don’t know how it works in the USA, but I would assume it is similar as in Canada.
It looks to me as if you are just being spoken to in an attempt to determine if you can provide any information that could assist with the investigation. I would suggest to you that you tell the truth and not worry about the issue. [/quote]
I’m not talking to you without my attorney present 
wtf is the differance between a lawyer and an attorney anyway?
One is a shyster and the other is a mouthpiece
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]trevor16 wrote:
I am a police constable and in my experience I would suggest that if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to be concerned about. You don’t need to waste your money on a lawyer when you have had no involvement in this incident. Murder investigations are often very complex and there will be dozens of people spoken to who have no involvement in the incident. This is because as a police officer you never know who will be able to provide some insight into the situation without speaking to everyone who knows this guy.
Just because they are asking you questions doesn’t mean you are a suspect. I don’t know where you are from, but in Canada, prior to an interview with a suspect the police must provide the individual with an opportunity to speak with a lawyer and explain to them that they have no responsibility to say anything. I don’t know how it works in the USA, but I would assume it is similar as in Canada.
It looks to me as if you are just being spoken to in an attempt to determine if you can provide any information that could assist with the investigation. I would suggest to you that you tell the truth and not worry about the issue. [/quote]
Excuse me, but you’re a fucking idiot.
You know, because innocent people are never charged. Innocent people never go to jail. Innocent people have never been freed from death row. Are you serious? Please stop posting. Go eat a donut and write a ticket.
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Im sorry you have a poor perception of police tactics. Yes occasionally innocent (or often ``not guilty`` which is a whole different story) people have been charged, however assuming that because a tiny amount of investigations have gone wrong, that the police are out to get everyone is pretty ignorant. I am just providing my opinion with my experience as a cop. He doesnt have to listen to me, but not everyone is as negative as you and maybe he will feel differently than you. For me, if I were in a similar situation, I would not pay $600 to speak with a lawyer about my options. If he is concerned about the situation he can simply tell the police that he does not wish to speak with them and unless he is more involved than he previously mentioned he will have no further involvement.
Relax…the police are not out to screw over everyone they can. Law abiding people have nothing to worry about from the police. You sound like you are part of the tiny part of society who through your own bad decisions has found yourself on the wrong side of the law. If you don`t like my advice you can ignore it…just trying to help.
neelydan will represent the shit outta you
Just go talk to the cops, it’s not such a big deal. But, having been in this situation myself many times, here are some pointers to just make sure…
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Bring doughnuts, say something like, “Thought you guys might enjoy these, you know, so you don’t have to make an extra stop when you’re on the beat later.”
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Wear a “Natural Born Killer” or “I Did It” t-shirt. The cops will love that kind of irony, and will get a good laugh out of it.
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Contradict a few things you’ve already told them. Nobody remembers ALL the facts perfectly straight. If you don’t contradict yourself here and there, you will be less believable.
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Ask about the steps involved in becoming a cop, say that you’re interested in a career in law enforcement, so that you too can help bring murderers to justice.
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Don’t act like an angel. It never sounds genuine. Admit that you never liked the victim, and that he had it coming. You’re glad he got whacked. You just had nothing to do with it. Say it with a smile.
Make sure you do all those things, and you’ll be a freebird with a bunch of new friends in no time.
And don’t forget to say, “It wasn’t me! It was the one-armed man!!!”
[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:
Rohnyn, you have come up with a ridiculous array of posts since coming to these boards. I am finding it hard to believe even half of them.[/quote]
I’m starting to feel the same way.
[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Charles3264 wrote:
Dont consider yourself as a suspect… If you ve done nothing why not giving answers at the police. If you were a suspect, they would arrest you already and give you your rights. There is no reason for worry about it. They questionned you as a witness(even if you werent on scene)…not as a suspect…because of the past and the relation between you and the guy. Its a normal way of investegation . Cooperation is always the best way to get out of a situation like that…And yes i m a cop and we are not all screwers…and for the one who tells that we are eating donuts…find another stupid sentence…like we ve never heard this one…[/quote]
You arrest everyone immediately upon having suspicion that they might have been the one who committed a crime and you are still a cop?
There is no way, from the information provided, that one can conclude that the police have no suspicion that the OP is the murderer. He may well presently be formally classified as a person of interest rather than a suspect, but that distinction would not change a thing regarding whether he needs a lawyer or not.
Btw, exactly why would you think, if you do, that the police would want further information from the OP when they are already informed there has been no contact for years, if they have no thoughts along the lines that the OP may be the murderer?[/quote]
Like I briefly mentioned earlier, in Canada upon questioning anyone we feel is or could be a suspect we have to inform them that they are a suspect, provide them with an opportunity to speak with a lawyer and tell them they are under no obligation to say anything. Im not sure how this works in the United States, however I am sure it is similar. I cant speak for Charles3264, however it does not sound as if this was done, and this is why I do not feel that the OP is a suspect. Even though he has not spoken to the vic in some time it can`t hurt an investigation for police to speak with someone because who knows what type of information the person may know which could assist them. This is why as I mentioned so many people are spoken to in important investigations. Most of these people however are not suspects and have nothing to worry about.