If You Were King

I’ve seen repeal the 17th mentioned a few times, and by older wiser fellows.

Anyone care to go into more detail about why?

[quote]ZEB wrote:
Let’s assume that you are the “king” of the United States for one 6 year term. You can do anything that you want relative to government.

Tell me what the top items on your wish list would be.[/quote]

  • Abortion illegal except in cases of rape, incest, and danger to the life of the mother.

  • Massive subsidies on contraception.

  • Sex ed mandatory in schools after the age of 10. Failure to comply = jail time and lose custody of your children.

  • Tax reform. Brackets similar to Australia/NZ but with diminishing taxation on every dollar over $1 million.

  • Welfare reform. Much less money handed out, coupon system similar to food stamps. Utilities and rent paid directly to landlord/companies. Also includes help getting back into the workforce but no direct payments for transport or clothes (vouchers).

  • Religious institutions to pay tax.

  • Massive increase in scientific research budgets.

  • Pull out of all foreign territory and decrease military budget. Use initial saving to get ex-soldiers into work.

  • Relaunch the space program. Seriously guys, what the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK?

  • Kick religion out of school and government. Complete and utter ban of religious schools and lobbies.

  • Cripple lobbies in general.

  • Tenure to become a foreign concept in government jobs.

  • Education fully controlled by the government. Religion is a no no. Teachers paid more, with random reviews every year.

  • Jail sentences harsher, jail life even more so. Terrorists sentenced to death.

  • All drugs legal, no support for addicts in any form unless they have private health cover. Drugs can be sold, but will be taxed based on addictiveness (i.e. more addictive = more tax)

  • Homeless people kicked out of cities, with centers on city limits where they can seek help and plead their case. Drug addicts told to kindly fuck off to Guantanamo Bay, which has been reopened for the dregs of society (rapists, murderers). I have no patience for addicts.

  • Side note on Gitmo, it’s only for people found guilty, you can’t send people there who are awaiting trial.

  • Regulate the pharmaceutical industry.

  • Universal health care similar to the NZ system. Private health cover still has a place, but anything serious gets covered (i.e. cancer).

  • Proof of identity documentation such as 18+ cards and passports issued free of charge to citizens.

  • Semi-privatization of utilities with heavy handed consumer protection laws.

  • Gay marriage legal. Ditto poly-amorous marriages.

  • Minimum age to be married 25 except in cases of terminal illness. You can wait.

  • Paternity testing at birth mandatory. Negative result = man can walk away with no repercussion. Staying for a few years and then leaving means he still has to pay though.

  • No fault divorce means no alimony.

  • Freedom of speech clarified to idiots so they understand people don’t have to like what they say.

And that’s just the first day. Oh and don’t forget:

  • Anyone who uses the word irregardless will be sentenced to a public hanging.

Be honest, you bastards! We all know what absolute power does…

  1. Direct 10% of tax revenue into my own personal accounts in the Cayman Islands and Liechtenstein.

  2. Public money would be used to build a fabulous castle to house me and my 1000 concubines.

  3. Mandate the building of a grand monument to me in every major city.

  4. Ban all religions, except for one of my creation that worships me as its primary deity (I can control the weather!).

  5. Ensure public co-operation with purges, secret police, secret secret police, secret secret secret police, etc.

  6. Make it official practise for soldiers awaiting inspection to have flowers sticking out of their guns.

  7. Appoint people loyal to me into positions of power.

  8. Promote myself to “emperor” and remove that fixed 6-year term, and make the position hereditary.

  9. Nationalize any organization with enough power to pose a threat.

  10. Flee to France after the system goes to shit, like every other deposed dictator and his grandmother.

[quote]florelius wrote:
if I where an all-powerfull king in the US I would do this:

  1. Make a 5 year plan to transition education( all kind ), health care, welfare( pensions, unemployment welfare, disability welfare ) to the states on the condition that the states have obligation to run it themself and make shure everyone of their citizens have acces to this entitlements. Part of this reform would also ensure that the states got more of the tax money.

  2. Nationalize all banks and create a system where the federal government and the states shared the control over the banks. Part of this reform would be to provide cheap student loans, house loans, business loans, but also to eliminate corrupt banking activity.

  3. Abortion reform modeled on the norwegian model( makes it legal untill some time in the pregnacy )

  4. Eliminate the death penalty in the entire USA.

  5. Drug policy reform: Legalize Cannabis and focus more on stopping the trafficking of heavier drugs like cocain, heroin etc. Also people who is found to posess an small amount of drugs of any kind are not to be sent to jail, but are instead fined.

  6. Tax Reform: Close all loopholes. both wage based and profit based income are taxed the same. I am stealing Zebs 20% flat tax rate since it sounds so clean and simple. everyone regardless of income pays an extra 5% where those 5% are going directly to pay off the debt. When the Debt is payed off, this debt tax will become a rainyday-fund tax.

  7. If private corporations threatens to outsource their corporations because of the increased taxes, their corporations will be nationalized to prevent people to lose jobs and to maintain a stable economy.

  8. Strict anti-corruption reforms will be implemented: Politicians who are found accepting money from lobbyists loses their seats in whatever house they are in. This rule concerns also all federal employees.

  9. Strict financial and enviromentalist regulations would be put in place.

  10. The war in afganistan will be ended as soon as possible and there will be no new military adventure
    in my reign. The US military will also be reformed to be a pure defence force.

  11. Gitmo will be closed and all the prisoners their will be trialed like an american citizen. If the court is a problem, I will set up a improvised court at Gitmo. Prisoners who are found guilty will serve their time on US soil in a special prison for ex-gitmo prisoners. Prisoners who are found innocent will be sent back to their homeland except in the situation their life is at stake doing so.

  12. Gay marriage will be Legalized.

  13. Maximum sentences time will be set to 20 years. This will save the prison system money and 20 years are a long enough time.

  14. All federal wages will have sealing at what today constitutes 200.000$ a year, Congress men and senators wages are set to no more than 100.000$ a year. This is to give money hungrey people less incentive to go into politics or get a job at the federal level.

  15. There will be an implementation of a 2 term rule, that means that after 2 terms any senator, congress man is out of the office.

  16. Labour union reform: Everyone have the right to unionize if they want and no employer( including states and the federal goverment ) can denie any one this right. Also it will be illegal to ask anyone if they are a union member in a job interwiew. Its offcourse also a persons right to be not unionized, but union shops stays.

  17. Democracy in the work place will be implemented: This means that no bussines can make changes to their workplace policys without asking their employees. If the mayority of their employees says no to change in policy then they are not allowed to implement it. Breaking of this rule will be considered a criminal act.

  18. Higher education reform: All public higher education is free and all students have the right to get a loan for living expenses. This loan is interrest free and for each full semester a person passes, half of that loan is erased. Also the re-payment plans for the loans will be based on a individuals income and will be adjusted each year.

  19. Natural resources such as oil, gas, coal etc will be nationalized and will be run by a corporation that are co-owned by all the states, the federal government and the employees of this corporation. The profits of this production will be split in three ways, 1 third to the employees, 1 third to the states and 1 third to the federal government.

  20. The patriot act will be repealed.

  21. Political commersials on televison and in cinemas will be made illegal. Also Commersials directed at children will also be made illegal.

  22. All states are obligated to provide shelter to the homeless. ( someone else said this and I liked the idea so I stole it )

  23. The electoral college will be eliminated and presidential elections after my reign will be determened by the popular vote alone. The principle here is one man one vote.

  24. If states issues ID voter laws they must also provide all citizens 18 and above of their state Voter ID free of charge.

  25. Electricity will also be nationalized since it is basickly part of the infrastructure.
    The states should be in charge of the electrity system within their states and they are obligated to keep the prices as low as possible.

I bet most of you are happy as fuck I am not your King :)[/quote]

Solid ideas.

The term, “tax loopholes,” is used repeatedly on this forum. Please someone tell me these loopholes so I can save money on my taxes this year!

[quote]spiderman739 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
if I where an all-powerfull king in the US I would do this:

  1. Make a 5 year plan to transition education( all kind ), health care, welfare( pensions, unemployment welfare, disability welfare ) to the states on the condition that the states have obligation to run it themself and make shure everyone of their citizens have acces to this entitlements. Part of this reform would also ensure that the states got more of the tax money.

  2. Nationalize all banks and create a system where the federal government and the states shared the control over the banks. Part of this reform would be to provide cheap student loans, house loans, business loans, but also to eliminate corrupt banking activity.

  3. Abortion reform modeled on the norwegian model( makes it legal untill some time in the pregnacy )

  4. Eliminate the death penalty in the entire USA.

  5. Drug policy reform: Legalize Cannabis and focus more on stopping the trafficking of heavier drugs like cocain, heroin etc. Also people who is found to posess an small amount of drugs of any kind are not to be sent to jail, but are instead fined.

  6. Tax Reform: Close all loopholes. both wage based and profit based income are taxed the same. I am stealing Zebs 20% flat tax rate since it sounds so clean and simple. everyone regardless of income pays an extra 5% where those 5% are going directly to pay off the debt. When the Debt is payed off, this debt tax will become a rainyday-fund tax.

  7. If private corporations threatens to outsource their corporations because of the increased taxes, their corporations will be nationalized to prevent people to lose jobs and to maintain a stable economy.

  8. Strict anti-corruption reforms will be implemented: Politicians who are found accepting money from lobbyists loses their seats in whatever house they are in. This rule concerns also all federal employees.

  9. Strict financial and enviromentalist regulations would be put in place.

  10. The war in afganistan will be ended as soon as possible and there will be no new military adventure
    in my reign. The US military will also be reformed to be a pure defence force.

  11. Gitmo will be closed and all the prisoners their will be trialed like an american citizen. If the court is a problem, I will set up a improvised court at Gitmo. Prisoners who are found guilty will serve their time on US soil in a special prison for ex-gitmo prisoners. Prisoners who are found innocent will be sent back to their homeland except in the situation their life is at stake doing so.

  12. Gay marriage will be Legalized.

  13. Maximum sentences time will be set to 20 years. This will save the prison system money and 20 years are a long enough time.

  14. All federal wages will have sealing at what today constitutes 200.000$ a year, Congress men and senators wages are set to no more than 100.000$ a year. This is to give money hungrey people less incentive to go into politics or get a job at the federal level.

  15. There will be an implementation of a 2 term rule, that means that after 2 terms any senator, congress man is out of the office.

  16. Labour union reform: Everyone have the right to unionize if they want and no employer( including states and the federal goverment ) can denie any one this right. Also it will be illegal to ask anyone if they are a union member in a job interwiew. Its offcourse also a persons right to be not unionized, but union shops stays.

  17. Democracy in the work place will be implemented: This means that no bussines can make changes to their workplace policys without asking their employees. If the mayority of their employees says no to change in policy then they are not allowed to implement it. Breaking of this rule will be considered a criminal act.

  18. Higher education reform: All public higher education is free and all students have the right to get a loan for living expenses. This loan is interrest free and for each full semester a person passes, half of that loan is erased. Also the re-payment plans for the loans will be based on a individuals income and will be adjusted each year.

  19. Natural resources such as oil, gas, coal etc will be nationalized and will be run by a corporation that are co-owned by all the states, the federal government and the employees of this corporation. The profits of this production will be split in three ways, 1 third to the employees, 1 third to the states and 1 third to the federal government.

  20. The patriot act will be repealed.

  21. Political commersials on televison and in cinemas will be made illegal. Also Commersials directed at children will also be made illegal.

  22. All states are obligated to provide shelter to the homeless. ( someone else said this and I liked the idea so I stole it )

  23. The electoral college will be eliminated and presidential elections after my reign will be determened by the popular vote alone. The principle here is one man one vote.

  24. If states issues ID voter laws they must also provide all citizens 18 and above of their state Voter ID free of charge.

  25. Electricity will also be nationalized since it is basickly part of the infrastructure.
    The states should be in charge of the electrity system within their states and they are obligated to keep the prices as low as possible.

I bet most of you are happy as fuck I am not your King :)[/quote]

Solid ideas.[/quote]

They’re solid, but I’m glad florelius isn’t all powerful in America…that’s for sure! I couldn’t support but a few of these.

[quote]florelius wrote:

Also Commersials directed at children will also be made illegal.
[/quote]

Does this mean that Trix will no longer be for kids?

Send conservativedog to assassinate Makavali just because lol =]

[quote]smh23 wrote:

Does this mean that Trix will no longer be for kids?[/quote]

Fantastic.

By nature I’m a positive person. So, from this point forward I won’t think as much about Obama being reelected as I do about florelius not being king for six years.

YIKES!

You scared me there buddy…oh yeah…

[quote]ZEB wrote:
By nature I’m a positive person. So, from this point forward I won’t think as much about Obama being reelected as I do about florelius not being king for six years.

YIKES!

You scared me there buddy…oh yeah…[/quote]

US “liberals” are Bart, Flor is cartman, Family Guy is individual enterprise.

Just kidding Flor, it’s just very funny to see the difference between American and European lefties.

What if?!

I am king.

And so are you. Now, mind your business and behave yourself.

I’ll see you at the next club meeting.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The term, “tax loopholes,” is used repeatedly on this forum. Please someone tell me these loopholes so I can save money on my taxes this year![/quote]

This.

If i were King of America, and assuming i would be a liberal King, i would

-give Louisiana back to France.

That’s the only elegant way to get rid of those red states.

If France can not “blue them”, then nothing will.

[quote]kamui wrote:
If i were King of America, and assuming i would be a liberal King, i would

-give Louisiana back to France.

That’s the only elegant way to get rid of those red states.

If France can not “blue them”, then nothing will.

[/quote]

I blue myself.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
What if?!

I am king.

And so are you. Now, mind your business and behave yourself.

I’ll see you at the next club meeting.[/quote]

You exceeded my expectations. I got a chuckle.

I would push policies of wealth redistribution.

Yeah, I’d redistribute everyone’s wealth to me.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]spiderman739 wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
if I where an all-powerfull king in the US I would do this:

  1. Make a 5 year plan to transition education( all kind ), health care, welfare( pensions, unemployment welfare, disability welfare ) to the states on the condition that the states have obligation to run it themself and make shure everyone of their citizens have acces to this entitlements. Part of this reform would also ensure that the states got more of the tax money.

  2. Nationalize all banks and create a system where the federal government and the states shared the control over the banks. Part of this reform would be to provide cheap student loans, house loans, business loans, but also to eliminate corrupt banking activity.

  3. Abortion reform modeled on the norwegian model( makes it legal untill some time in the pregnacy )

  4. Eliminate the death penalty in the entire USA.

  5. Drug policy reform: Legalize Cannabis and focus more on stopping the trafficking of heavier drugs like cocain, heroin etc. Also people who is found to posess an small amount of drugs of any kind are not to be sent to jail, but are instead fined.

  6. Tax Reform: Close all loopholes. both wage based and profit based income are taxed the same. I am stealing Zebs 20% flat tax rate since it sounds so clean and simple. everyone regardless of income pays an extra 5% where those 5% are going directly to pay off the debt. When the Debt is payed off, this debt tax will become a rainyday-fund tax.

  7. If private corporations threatens to outsource their corporations because of the increased taxes, their corporations will be nationalized to prevent people to lose jobs and to maintain a stable economy.

  8. Strict anti-corruption reforms will be implemented: Politicians who are found accepting money from lobbyists loses their seats in whatever house they are in. This rule concerns also all federal employees.

  9. Strict financial and enviromentalist regulations would be put in place.

  10. The war in afganistan will be ended as soon as possible and there will be no new military adventure
    in my reign. The US military will also be reformed to be a pure defence force.

  11. Gitmo will be closed and all the prisoners their will be trialed like an american citizen. If the court is a problem, I will set up a improvised court at Gitmo. Prisoners who are found guilty will serve their time on US soil in a special prison for ex-gitmo prisoners. Prisoners who are found innocent will be sent back to their homeland except in the situation their life is at stake doing so.

  12. Gay marriage will be Legalized.

  13. Maximum sentences time will be set to 20 years. This will save the prison system money and 20 years are a long enough time.

  14. All federal wages will have sealing at what today constitutes 200.000$ a year, Congress men and senators wages are set to no more than 100.000$ a year. This is to give money hungrey people less incentive to go into politics or get a job at the federal level.

  15. There will be an implementation of a 2 term rule, that means that after 2 terms any senator, congress man is out of the office.

  16. Labour union reform: Everyone have the right to unionize if they want and no employer( including states and the federal goverment ) can denie any one this right. Also it will be illegal to ask anyone if they are a union member in a job interwiew. Its offcourse also a persons right to be not unionized, but union shops stays.

  17. Democracy in the work place will be implemented: This means that no bussines can make changes to their workplace policys without asking their employees. If the mayority of their employees says no to change in policy then they are not allowed to implement it. Breaking of this rule will be considered a criminal act.

  18. Higher education reform: All public higher education is free and all students have the right to get a loan for living expenses. This loan is interrest free and for each full semester a person passes, half of that loan is erased. Also the re-payment plans for the loans will be based on a individuals income and will be adjusted each year.

  19. Natural resources such as oil, gas, coal etc will be nationalized and will be run by a corporation that are co-owned by all the states, the federal government and the employees of this corporation. The profits of this production will be split in three ways, 1 third to the employees, 1 third to the states and 1 third to the federal government.

  20. The patriot act will be repealed.

  21. Political commersials on televison and in cinemas will be made illegal. Also Commersials directed at children will also be made illegal.

  22. All states are obligated to provide shelter to the homeless. ( someone else said this and I liked the idea so I stole it )

  23. The electoral college will be eliminated and presidential elections after my reign will be determened by the popular vote alone. The principle here is one man one vote.

  24. If states issues ID voter laws they must also provide all citizens 18 and above of their state Voter ID free of charge.

  25. Electricity will also be nationalized since it is basickly part of the infrastructure.
    The states should be in charge of the electrity system within their states and they are obligated to keep the prices as low as possible.

I bet most of you are happy as fuck I am not your King :)[/quote]

Solid ideas.[/quote]

They’re solid, but I’m glad florelius isn’t all powerful in America…that’s for sure! I couldn’t support but a few of these. [/quote]

Just out of interrest what are the few you could support?

[quote]ZEB wrote:
By nature I’m a positive person. So, from this point forward I won’t think as much about Obama being reelected as I do about florelius not being king for six years.

YIKES!

You scared me there buddy…oh yeah…[/quote]

LOL

Most of my hypothical reforms are allready implemented in my country except some.

[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:
By nature I’m a positive person. So, from this point forward I won’t think as much about Obama being reelected as I do about florelius not being king for six years.

YIKES!

You scared me there buddy…oh yeah…[/quote]

US “liberals” are Bart, Flor is cartman, Family Guy is individual enterprise.

Just kidding Flor, it’s just very funny to see the difference between American and European lefties.[/quote]

Did you just call me Cartman :O, expect to be picked up by military personell tomorow and they will take you to a rehabilitation camp in Alaska :slight_smile:

Well the difference is that the US left is mostly liberals, while the Europeen left are mostly socialist. That makes for some differences in policy :wink: