If the Middle East Was Christian

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Sloth wrote:
Sikkario wrote:

Interestingly during this period, Christian retard terrorist Crusaders, went on their holy war agaisnt the Muslim East, because they “hated their freedom.” And ended up at one point, sacking a destroying, the last great Christian empire in the region, out of jealousy and retardation. The sacking of Constantinople.

We Westerners were dirty hater retards too, back when we used to wipe our ass with our hands.

Yep. Ugly episode that turned about to be. What, may I ask was happening beforehand?[/quote]

I think they sacked the city, because, the turnout for the crusade was much more than expected…they weren’t as much christian warriors coming from western europe. As dirty, unclean, uncivilized, diseased dirt farmers, who had hiked thousands of miles. Sporting lame weapons, and bad teeth.

I suppose these farmers heard, from their local Chrisitan Imams, that a battle was being waged against Islam, and the the Emperor of Byzantium payed handsome sums. I guess they thought they were all getting it.

Upon seeing the dirty ass dregs of Western Europe, the Byzantines, refused to allow them entry, and were uninterested in them, perhaps even more intimidated by the backwards Christians of the dark age West than the Muslims themselves… they refused them entry or accomadation and the Crusaders slept outside the city like dogs…pissed.

In the eyes of the Crusaders, shitfaced, and flea bitten, they felt the Byzantines weren’t making good on their offer. So they sieged, pillaged and ransacked the city, and then fucked some donkeys, and slept in their own piles of shit.

I think they were some Crusader states they may have went to afterwards, but my knowledge of this period of history is shaky at best.

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Come on, the Moors did not invade Spain because the felt the need to educate those people.

It is no different than the Crusades. That and the Turks taking half of Europe 400 years later.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Come on, the Moors did not invade Spain because the felt the need to educate those people.

It is no different than the Crusades. That and the Turks taking half of Europe 400 years later.[/quote]

I didn’t say the moors wanted to educate Spain.

I’m saying at the period of time Islamic influence was more valuable than Christian.

The Muslims ruling Spain were more advanced civilly, technologically and culturally than some Gothic Kings.

While the rest of Europe was using Aristotle’s writings for new Bibles, the Muslims were studying Socrates, and the other Greek Classics.

If you think Spain wasn’t at an advantage because of Muslim rule, you’re a fool.

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[quote]pat wrote:
kroby wrote:
The Papacy would hold the world hostage, as the religion would have the world by the short hairs re: energy.

And we’d have a lot more history about the Tigris / Euphrates river Mesopotamia Valley cradle of life and law (Hammurabi code) and how we owe history indefinite servitude for their glory.

I believe it would be a far worse world.

That is what I call a thinly veiled hatred for Catholicism…

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Hatred? Nah. That would require me to do more than laugh at what R. Catholics cherish and hold sacred.

Consider the lies and deceit the papacy was involved in during oh, the dark ages and WWII (wrt the Third Reich) and you’d see to what ends such an organization would do for power, influence and perpetuation. They held science hostage (ex: Galileo and Newton)- and by that, I include the natural progress of human intellect.

Do you not think that if this religion (R. Catholicism) held, say, 75% of the worlds supply of currently usable energy, they would not be any different than their historical heavy handedness?

Would this imaginary world be any different than if Fundamentalist Islamic Imams held the same?

No.

Just be happy every oil bearing nation isn’t lead by a Chavez-archetype, either.

Only in the hands of moderate, market willing leaders is this world in a lot less turmoil.

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[quote]Sikkario wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
Come on, the Moors did not invade Spain because the felt the need to educate those people.

It is no different than the Crusades. That and the Turks taking half of Europe 400 years later.

I didn’t say the moors wanted to educate Spain.

I’m saying at the period of time Islamic influence was more valuable than Christian.

The Muslims ruling Spain were more advanced civilly, technologically and culturally than some Gothic Kings.

While the rest of Europe was using Aristotle’s writings for new Bibles, the Muslims were studying Socrates, and the other Greek Classics.

If you think Spain wasn’t at an advantage because of Muslim rule, you’re a fool.[/quote]

Apparently, we took the same Western Civ class.

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I like the Roman Catholics. Some good folk.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
India and Pakistan are facing off with nuclear weapons ready to annihilate each other.[/quote]

Yes, and the US is getting ready to attack Iran; has already attacked Afghanistan and Iraq.

Domestic peace is the only requirement. The average Indian is unaffected by Pakistan colflict.

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Who knows. Would the world be a better more peaceful place? Maybe. But somehow I suspect we would find some other excuse to be fighting.