Ideas to Get as Lean as Possible

Drink 15g of sodium bicarbonate (arm and hammer) in the morning and evening. I mix mine in water with some sugar free flavoring.

Could this be mixed with Mag-10? And is there no concern about digestion issues by raising stomach acid pH?

Also, what about olive oil shots to bring up calories? I plan to do a IF/pulse feast kind of idea when I start school again just because carrying around food at school is a big hassle (well, that and I want to drop some fat and IF has worked for me before). Basically all my eating would be between ~3pm-9pm and the rest would be Mag-10. There’s a fish store on my way to and from school so I plan to start switching my protein to that and combining this I’m going to have to eat two pretty large meals in that period to get enough calories to keep the deficit from being too major if I don’t take any whey/casein shakes. If I can’t get the number of calories I want I was going to make it up with olive oil. Although if the first meal is fish/rice and the second meal is eggs then I might be able to get a good amount in with the eggs.

Also: for quinoa if people are into the health aspect of it and not really the taste try mixing it with rice. I don’t mind quinoa but I like rice more so I mix 2/3 jasmine rice and 1/3 quinoa and make it in a rice cooker. Never notice the quinoa is in there. Throw in some chicken broth and regular olive oil (unsure if either are detrimental to the focus of fat loss here) and whatever seasonings/spices you like and it’s great

haha a guide to lifting by race/size would be interesting indeed

also interesting is seeing folks here post calorie and weight. My daily amount is more than most of these yet much lighter and I’ve seen (read) huge dudes (200 lbs + lean) maintain weight with same calories I use. the body is unique

Hahaha, glad to see some sodium bicarbonate advice in the list!

Very nice for adjusting acidity.

I was surprised by the advice to avoid meat. Grass fed beef has always been a staple and treats me well. And it seems to keep people full longer than chicken or fish, even with olive oil as a component of those meals to add to the fat content.

Thoughts?

Why pineapple and mangoes?

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Do a search about the health benefits.

The bromelain in pineapple is a good natural anti-inflammatory, it also helps digest protein. And both fruits are good for reducing the acid load of the body while providing a lot of vitamins

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No question there. And it might be better for building muscle in part because of the arachidonic acid which is sadly also responsible for the pro-inflammatory aspect of meat.

The question was what is better for getting lean. Fish is superior to meat if your goal is to get lean. And it’s better for health, which is very important for me right now

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Big guys are normally big because they are designed tombe this way. Meaning that their body naturally gravitates toward a larger size. Many of these 200-220 guys would have been 180-185 of they never started training. When we were 18 both my older brother and I were 173lbs on 5’9". I became a weight training enthusiast and he is more into sports like kayak, skiing, biking and does some occasional lifting. He is 175lbs and I’m 210-220.

People designed to be larger do not need as much food to sustain their size. My friend Paul Carter was dieting down on about 1800-2000 calories at one point and bis weight would not go down.

Mike Mentzer ate about 2000 calories when dieting down and would walk for HOURS outside , everyday, to slowly lower his weight.

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No question!

Low grade systemic inflammation slows down all the functions of the body or make them less efficient. This includes fat mobilization.

But another thing to consider is that low grade systemic inflammation leads to systemic water retention. When you are systemically inflamed you will retain water which can be mistaken for fat as it will make you look more puffy and increase your scale weight.

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I just wanted to pop in and say I’m finding this fascinating. This is definitely new territory for me in terms of dieting strategy.
I started the sodium bicarbonate (morning/evening) drinks yesterday and trying to substitute most of my meat for fish/eggs for my protein source. I hope those sodium bicarbonate drinks get easier to choke down! They are awful even mixed with something.

In regards to curcumin, I have half a bottle left over from previous use and was wondering if I am at least getting some absorption benefits from adding black pepper to the meals I’m taking it around (for the Piperin) as my supplement does not contain Piperine.\

Thanks!

Am I the only one who got reminded of an old write up by Dr John Berardi after scouring through CT’s current dietary regimen?

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Not trying to insult your intelligence here, but I hated quinoa until I learned how to properly rinse it. If you don’t rinse it off the quinoa retains a pesticide on it that dramatically affects the taste and is off-putting.

Once you rinse it a few times prior to cooking it is much more mild and pleasant. Just a thought to try it again since it has a higher protein content than rice.

Thanks :slight_smile:

I was thinking a bit more in terms of adherence I suppose–if one is full longer it prevents one from being tempted to cheat, thus being able to sustain a deficit with more relative ease. No argument on fish being great for health. I like to start with meat and as the diet gets deeper phase it out with fish etc.

I think the point you made about systemic inflammation and water retention is great as well.

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That’s my typical approach with competitors.

PHASE 1- meat
PHASE 2 - 50% meat / 50% chicken or salmon (fatty fish)
PHASE 3 - 50% chicken/fatty fish, 50% white fish
PHASE 4 - all white fish

you reduce calories without having the feeling of eating less

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Dude, I have many qualities but unfortunately I have some issues too. One of them is that I’m really difficult/picky with food…for example foods where the ingredients are mixed togetgher repulse me even if I like all the ingredients (but I can drink protein shakes, I’m weird like that). I do not taste new foods, or very rarely and if my first experience with something was negative I’ll never have it again.

That’s the article that introduced me to the concept. But it took me years to try it and be convinced.

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I hear that. I’ll never love pot roast. Stringy meat can go to hell.

But still - I was determined with quinoa because so many say it’s a great alternative to other things for energy with its nutrient profile and protein to boot.

And without a good rinse it does taste terrible. With a rinse it doesn’t taste remotely the same. Cook it in bone broth instead of water and you’ve got a rich, salty, collegan boosting carb.

Ok I’m done trying to convince you.

Very interesting that I ran into this thread now, as I recently changed up my diet and have gotten noticeably leaner while adding a couple lbs on the scale despite very little change to my macros or calories. It also seems like I’ve shed a lot of subcutaneous water, as I look a lot less puffy. I couldn’t quite put my finger on why these things happened, but the reduction in metabolic acidosis and inflammation offer a plausible explanation.

Here’s all I did:

  • Switched 2 meals per day from rice and tuna to tilapia and potatoes
  • Got more strict about my vegetable consumption. Green veggies at AT LEAST 4 meals per day
  • Fruit at the 2 non-vegetable-containing meals
  • Got more consistent with meditating a minimum of 10 minutes per day

Thats it. Very cool to find this thread so I can see how much further down this path I can walk.

It’s funny how often we are all like that. Berardi enlightened me in many ways, I am very glad to have found him as my ā€œnutrition gatewayā€ so early in my lifting career. You as well from a training perspective.

I picked up that article and ran with it…but try to convince me of the importance of corrective aspects of training early on and I did the exact same thing–put it off and remain unconvinced for a significant time I could have been using it to help!

Regarding this inflammation point, wasn’t it accepted that postworkout one NEEDS inflammation and impeding that post workout (excessive vitamin C, antioxidants, even veggies I’ve heard) reduces gains?

Have you found this to be true? Meaning, following a workout, a big green salad with fruit/veggies smoothies might do more HARM than good when it comes to muscle recovery/fat loss/

Similar logic for pre-bed meals - one doesn’t want excessive fiber (which inhibits nightly HGH release?) and instead should go for an insulin spike (white rice/potatoes, even processed foods) & protein. Do you buy this CT?

What about glutamine for immune system health?