I Love Netflix, But Come On

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Holy shit dude I’m totally on board with you on this.

They bumped my subscription last December and they’re doing it again now. Motherfuckers.

With work, school, family, travel, and the like Netflix has become my only consistent source of entertainment and I didn’t feel bad about it at all because the price was nice.

Now their heads gettin big or something?

I think I’m going to drop the DVD/Blu-ray delivery, now that it’s 9.99 a month I need to recieve and send back a lot of disks in order to get my money’s worth. Over the last three months I’ve watched and sent back 4 DVD’s. That works out to about 7.50 per rental. Not worth it.

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How many do they send at a time Brad? We watch at least 4-5 movies a week easy. We dont watch TV. [/quote]

Me either. That is why I am behind on current events…I just don’t give a shit anymore. I would rather go home and watch whatever the fuck I want with no commercials.

For me, I don’t rent out enough dvds to justify that expense, but Netflix has a shit load of movies ready for instant streaming.[/quote]

QFT, that is so me. I dont know how many times someone asks me about the Storm in the gulf or about our new Gay Major and I am how the fuck should I know. [/quote]

Our mayor is gay?[/quote]

Hahahahahaahahahahaha yea that was kind of my response also.

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^^You guys didnt know? How does the saying go…

“Everything’s gayer in Texas”

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Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.

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[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.
Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

No, it’s for people who may want to watch 5min of 10 different movies before finding one they really like as well.

For real movie fanatics who can tell you characters and directors of most of the shit that comes out, streaming from Netflix ain’t bad at all.

The real downside is no dvd extras and no director’s commentary…which I like.

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[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

Or people that do not want to take the risk of corrupting there home PC or people just lazy and would rather pay $16 a month and forget all the hassle of doing what you do.

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[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.

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I’m assuming that they’re going to start focusing more on their streaming service more and offer the dvd delivery as a secondary process. Hence the price increase (more like service separation if you ask me, rather than have the streaming+dvd “bundle” they seem to offer the streaming at the same price as dvd (one at a time of course)).

With the separation of the services, I’d imagine they’d focus more on improving the services that gets the most attention from customers, and since streaming is FAR superior to mail order rentals, not to mention the competition that Redbox has brought in, it makes more sense for them from a business stand point to separate the services and improve the streaming to the point where they can essentially render a Redbox unneeded. They’ll probably make their streaming a lot more efficient and delivery the newly released movies a lot sooner than they do now.

At least that’s what I get out of this…

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I have the one DVD at a time and streaming right now and I will probably either go streaming only or just drop it all together. I used the streaming option for tv shows more than I did for movies.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.[/quote]

Thank you Sam, this is not my area of expertise, but this is the feeling I got from his post.

Kind of like back in the 90’s and early 2000’s and guys modifying there directv boxes to get free service. To me that is stealing plain and simple, call me a prude or old guy but it is what it is.

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We cancelled our cable TV since nobody was watching it, and have been streaming Netflix, watching Hulu, or DVDs for maybe a year now. Not much of a downside for us since we don’t watch ESPN, and we can don’t watch a lot of TV. We have an Apple TV and blu-ray player we can use to stream content.

We’ve been expecting our cable company (COX) to catch on as more people do this, and start billing us for increased bandwidth. That will be the next thing. It pays to be an early adopter, until enough people do it, then Netflix or the cable companies will want a piece. I’m not sure what we will do about the fee hike. I’ll hope that Netflix is going to expand their streaming library at least. I hope Polo has it right.

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Yea - it sucks but I like Netflix. I think they have a pretty damn good assortment of movies to stream, but new releases I like to get on Blu-Ray. We knocked our acct down to only 1 DVD out at a time and unlimited streaming when they raised prices last time, and now I guess we’ll pay the increases but may eventually drop the DVD portion. I don’t know, but I loved watching the 2 Spartacus series on streaming, plus my kid loves Blue’s Clues and the other kiddie shit they have.

Also, if you didn’t notice, even new DVD releases they are delayed in getting. Like Sucker Punch was out about 2 weeks ago, but not available from them until almost a month later…

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.[/quote]

Yeah my brother in law did this all the time. But cablevision started sending letters to his house. You don’t want that!

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[quote]DJHT wrote:
To me that is stealing plain and simple, call me a prude or old guy but it is what it is. [/quote]
I agree… you old prude you

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[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
To me that is stealing plain and simple, call me a prude or old guy but it is what it is. [/quote]
I agree… you old prude you [/quote]

Sorry this as a sore spot, my X wife married a guy whose brother did this for a living, converted peoples boxes for $200 a pop. So he of course had one at the house, I never liked the impression it made on my kids. That its better to cheat or steal than do the right thing because I want my entertainment for free. /rant

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
We just discussed this in the geek shit thread…and it is actually LESS if you choose one or the other.

I just signed up for the stream only plan for only 7.99 a month.

I watch TONS of movies.[/quote]

should have checked that thread didnt even think of it. im gonna ditch the dvd rental and just do streaming, and if i want an instant movie there are red boxes all over the place.

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[quote]DJS wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.[/quote]

Yeah my brother in law did this all the time. But cablevision started sending letters to his house. You don’t want that![/quote]

We were nice about it too. Cablevision could’ve just given him up to the RIAA if they wanted to. I’d take the students computer off the network until they came in to speak with us about it. And you know, I got a couple calls from angry parents about it. I told them straight out “Well instead of taking them off the network, how about I just forward RIAA their information and you and their lawyers can work it out?”. They changed their tone really quick after that.

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
To me that is stealing plain and simple, call me a prude or old guy but it is what it is. [/quote]
I agree… you old prude you [/quote]

Sorry this as a sore spot, my X wife married a guy whose brother did this for a living, converted peoples boxes for $200 a pop. So he of course had one at the house, I never liked the impression it made on my kids. That its better to cheat or steal than do the right thing because I want my entertainment for free. /rant[/quote]

You’re absolutely right though, DJHT. Not only does stealing hurt the company, but it hurts the honest end consumer also. Because X amt of people steal X amt of service, the loss from theft is X amt which is computed into the cost of said service thus raising the price for the honest end user.

It’s kind of a catch-22 (and this is one of the reasons why small convenience stores that get robbed in bad neighborhoods charge so much for their products as compared to a similar store that doesn’t get robbed as much). The people who steal said service do so because there isn’t an incentive for them to pay honestly (i.e. the monetary cost of said service is too high and they have the means to steal the service). But, if there wasn’t any theft of said service, the price would be lower for everyone. So, take away the means to steal the service in the first place to weed out the initial dishonest people, and the price could drop enough for more people to enjoy the service at a cheaper price without stealing.

I could go on for about another five or so paragraphs about the cause/effects of stealing has on a community/service/product/whatever, but I’ll let y’all talk about how evil Netflix is.

Fuckin price hike…

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]DJS wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.[/quote]

Yeah my brother in law did this all the time. But cablevision started sending letters to his house. You don’t want that![/quote]

We were nice about it too. Cablevision could’ve just given him up to the RIAA if they wanted to. I’d take the students computer off the network until they came in to speak with us about it. And you know, I got a couple calls from angry parents about it. I told them straight out “Well instead of taking them off the network, how about I just forward RIAA their information and you and their lawyers can work it out?”. They changed their tone really quick after that.[/quote]

I’ve been working for a leading cable company for the past 15 years and they have a number of ways to catch people who steal from them.

The RIAA does NOT fuck around and they can bury you with fines.

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Yeah man… I don’t use this word a lot, but the people who steal movies and do the whole ptp sharing who believe there’ll be no repercussions…

Well,

They’re fags.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Netflix isn’t worth it at the old or new price compared to downloading for free from ptp file-sharing. It makes more sense to upgrade your internet service and download any DVD you want within an hour. You just put however many movies you want on the queue in the morning and you’ve got 6-8 to choose from when you get home.

Of course this requires you to know what you’re doing to be safe downloading them.
Netflix in my mind is relegated to those people who aren’t computer competent enough to use ptp safely.[/quote]

I love this mindset. Do you know how many students got caught doing this at the college I work for? I’m the network guy who has to track them down once the RIAA sends the notices to us. Here’s a tip. Stay away from HBO series. They are by far the most aggressive in finding people who share their movies.

Yeah, and I know what you’re going to say. You only download and don’t share. That’s what most of the students argue even though they don’t realize what the peer-to-peer software they install is actually doing behind the scenes.[/quote]

No shit you’re going to get caught using a college network, there’s almost no way to protect yourself.

No you don’t know what I"m going to say, I share as much as I download if not more at times.

You seriously think I don’t know how my ptp program works. I’ve downloaded and shared over 10 thousand movies and episodes including dozens from HBO. I have never received a letter or any notice in the 5 or so years I’ve been doing this and I never will. Why?..because unlike you, I’m competent enough to distinguish between the risks(huge) of using a public network(college)
and the risks(near zero) a secure private home network and private tracker.

So really, you guys can continue to criticize all you want but in the end you’ll be wasting your 7.99 a month on a limited selection of streams while I use it to upgrade my torrent download speed by 1 mBps.

I’d also like to point out that sharing a copied piece of art(movies, T.V. Episodes, Games) is not illegal. Such a prohibition is unconstitutional as much as it would be if a law prohibited someone from giving away free photocopies of a painting they had bought or from posting them online for all to view. The fact that a business or sector has become less competitive because of file-sharing is a flaw in the business model, or, rather, a necessary part of a market sector correction where some older models fail while others emerge.
This is why games especially have moved to subscriber service models and bigger collectors edition sets.

I do however, believe that buying or being gifted(shared)a piece of software and MODIFYING it to bypass the service license is theft and within the rights of the states to punish.