[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
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I’ve said it before, but for a young dude, you’ve got some good taste in classic old-school music![/quote]
I aim to disappoint
lol
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I still haven’t had one single Obama supporter answer my question.
Seeing as how there are some PWI regulars showing up now I can see how some might not want to discuss it in this thread. Please feel free to PM me if you don’t mind. I am genuinely curious about the reason behind all of the celebratory dancing other than 1. A Democrat won. 2. The black candidate won. 3. A republican didn’t win lol.
What specifically about Obama are you so pumped about?[/quote]
So he can finish the job he started (cleaning up after Bush). The recovery is in place, the auto industry not only recovered and payed back the “loan”, but it’s thriving like a motherfucker.
And don’t even tell me you wouldn’t be jumping for joy right now if Romney won. Those people crying right now, stunned that Romney lost, would be in the streets dancing and partying if he had won, and you know it.[/quote]
The job he started cleaning up after bush? He had increased troop deployments to afghan and unsuccessfully tried to increase deployments to Iraq. The national debt has skyrocketed since he’s been in office. Not doing a very good job cleaning up IMO.
I can honestly 100% say that I would not have jumped for joy over Romney winning. Did I vote for him? Yes, reluctantly I did but I would not have been very excited about him winning. After what I saw from Obama over the last 4 years I figure it’s better to give someone else a shot than sit through 4 more less productive years of the same thing considering this is his “lame duck” term.[/quote]
The reason I didn’t vote for Romney:
He’s been riding the pine too long. Not really making any decisions for the good of the country.
His last real political job was Gov. of MA and that was too long ago. Dude was basically on the campaign trail for what, 6 years. I couldn’t support a salesman. By the time it was time to cast my vote all Romney was to me was Tony Robbins mixed with Gordon Gekko (simple comparison, I know) and to me that’s not very presidential.
Greg, maybe another comparison is looking within the Navy. I know you were Spec Ops, but in the regular Navy once a sailor makes Chief, there are many that just coast and take up space. They see making Chief as the final destination of their career, and in turn they’ve already “made it.”
I felt in my bones that Romney would have been similar, and we don’t need a seat filler these next 4 years, we need ambition, communication, focus, diplomacy, and a list of other shit that Mitt was not going to bring.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
yup[/quote]
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Which party has more racist left wingers? I suppose you spoke out against what happened to Stacy Dash when she supported Romney.[/quote]
What’s your point right here? Are you seriously telling me that Black Reps shun the Dems because they are predominately racist??
Of course, but the Rep party remains the one with an ever so minuscule percentage of minorities (compared to the Dems), and a majority of self-absorbed bigots, xenophobic (interestingly enough, Hispanic and Latinos tend to be more conservative… if only the reps didn’t want them out of the country…) and, racist supporters.
Dems are about consolidation, unification. As I watched Obama victory speech and Romney’s speech, the difference between both parties’ crowd diversity was startling.
I can agree with the pandering for votes. That’s the politicians game. But how do you know some things haven’t been accomplished?
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I still haven’t had one single Obama supporter answer my question.
Seeing as how there are some PWI regulars showing up now I can see how some might not want to discuss it in this thread. Please feel free to PM me if you don’t mind. I am genuinely curious about the reason behind all of the celebratory dancing other than 1. A Democrat won. 2. The black candidate won. 3. A republican didn’t win lol.
What specifically about Obama are you so pumped about?[/quote]
So he can finish the job he started (cleaning up after Bush). The recovery is in place, the auto industry not only recovered and payed back the “loan”, but it’s thriving like a motherfucker.
And don’t even tell me you wouldn’t be jumping for joy right now if Romney won. Those people crying right now, stunned that Romney lost, would be in the streets dancing and partying if he had won, and you know it.[/quote]
The job he started cleaning up after bush? He had increased troop deployments to afghan and unsuccessfully tried to increase deployments to Iraq. The national debt has skyrocketed since he’s been in office. Not doing a very good job cleaning up IMO.
I can honestly 100% say that I would not have jumped for joy over Romney winning. Did I vote for him? Yes, reluctantly I did but I would not have been very excited about him winning. After what I saw from Obama over the last 4 years I figure it’s better to give someone else a shot than sit through 4 more less productive years of the same thing considering this is his “lame duck” term.[/quote]
The reason I didn’t vote for Romney:
He’s been riding the pine too long. Not really making any decisions for the good of the country.
His last real political job was Gov. of MA and that was too long ago. Dude was basically on the campaign trail for what, 6 years. I couldn’t support a salesman. By the time it was time to cast my vote all Romney was to me was Tony Robbins mixed with Gordon Gekko (simple comparison, I know) and to me that’s not very presidential.
Greg, maybe another comparison is looking within the Navy. I know you were Spec Ops, but in the regular Navy once a sailor makes Chief, there are many that just coast and take up space. They see making Chief as the final destination of their career, and in turn they’ve already “made it.”
I felt in my bones that Romney would have been similar, and we don’t need a seat filler these next 4 years, we need ambition, communication, focus, diplomacy, and a list of other shit that Mitt was not going to bring.
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Interesting points.
For the record (for those who care), although I’m a registered Dem, I do on occasion vote outside my party. I voted for Christie in my state last time, as well as a particular Republican for Freeholder the previous time.
At first, I liked Romney’s moderate stance early on. But over time on the trail, his flip-flopping made him less real to me. Same with McCain in '08. I really liked McCain and rooted for him early in the race, but his VP selection and his flip-flops midway through the campaign turned me off.
Am I happy with every move Obama made? No. Is he the best pres ever? Hardly. Will he piss me off in the coming few years? Probably.
But I voted knowing in my heart that he was the man for the job.
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Back to shufflin’!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
I still haven’t had one single Obama supporter answer my question.
Seeing as how there are some PWI regulars showing up now I can see how some might not want to discuss it in this thread. Please feel free to PM me if you don’t mind. I am genuinely curious about the reason behind all of the celebratory dancing other than 1. A Democrat won. 2. The black candidate won. 3. A republican didn’t win lol.
What specifically about Obama are you so pumped about?[/quote]
So he can finish the job he started (cleaning up after Bush). The recovery is in place, the auto industry not only recovered and payed back the “loan”, but it’s thriving like a motherfucker.
And don’t even tell me you wouldn’t be jumping for joy right now if Romney won. Those people crying right now, stunned that Romney lost, would be in the streets dancing and partying if he had won, and you know it.[/quote]
The job he started cleaning up after bush? He had increased troop deployments to afghan and unsuccessfully tried to increase deployments to Iraq. The national debt has skyrocketed since he’s been in office. Not doing a very good job cleaning up IMO.
I can honestly 100% say that I would not have jumped for joy over Romney winning. Did I vote for him? Yes, reluctantly I did but I would not have been very excited about him winning. After what I saw from Obama over the last 4 years I figure it’s better to give someone else a shot than sit through 4 more less productive years of the same thing considering this is his “lame duck” term.[/quote]
The reason I didn’t vote for Romney:
He’s been riding the pine too long. Not really making any decisions for the good of the country.
His last real political job was Gov. of MA and that was too long ago. Dude was basically on the campaign trail for what, 6 years. I couldn’t support a salesman. By the time it was time to cast my vote all Romney was to me was Tony Robbins mixed with Gordon Gekko (simple comparison, I know) and to me that’s not very presidential.
Greg, maybe another comparison is looking within the Navy. I know you were Spec Ops, but in the regular Navy once a sailor makes Chief, there are many that just coast and take up space. They see making Chief as the final destination of their career, and in turn they’ve already “made it.”
I felt in my bones that Romney would have been similar, and we don’t need a seat filler these next 4 years, we need ambition, communication, focus, diplomacy, and a list of other shit that Mitt was not going to bring.
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Interesting points.
For the record (for those who care), although I’m a registered Dem, I do on occasion vote outside my party. I voted for Christie in my state last time, as well as a particular Republican for Freeholder the previous time.
At first, I liked Romney’s moderate stance early on. But over time on the trail, his flip-flopping made him less real to me. Same with McCain in '08. I really liked McCain and rooted for him early in the race, but his VP selection and his flip-flops midway through the campaign turned me off.
Am I happy with every move Obama made? No. Is he the best pres ever? Hardly. Will he piss me off in the coming few years? Probably.
But I voted knowing in my heart that he was the man for the job.
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Thanks for the replies. I see where you guys are coming from. I don’t totally agree but at least you had legit reasons for voting the way you did other than voting party lines/race.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
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LMFAO!!!
As a skateboarder myself, this really tickled me, DN!
Who makes these things?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
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LMFAO!!!
As a skateboarder myself, this really tickled me, DN!
Who makes these things?[/quote]
Haha! No idea.
I just typed ‘‘Obama gifs’’ and found them. lol!
Damn, you’re skateboarder? How did I miss that???
See what I’m imagining now, is that avi of yours (the dwarf guy, the one in Kakno’s avi) on a skateboard! LMFAO!! 
And Brad, I can totally see what you mean about the fleet Chiefs thing. I think that comparison is more applicable to Obama than Romney considering its his second term but I like the analogy.
Part of the reason why I am not a fan of Obama is due to some of the things that I experienced on deployment that he personally screwed us on lol. He 100% lost me there.
[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
The reason I didn’t vote for Romney:
He’s been riding the pine too long. Not really making any decisions for the good of the country.
His last real political job was Gov. of MA and that was too long ago. Dude was basically on the campaign trail for what, 6 years. I couldn’t support a salesman… we don’t need a seat filler these next 4 years, we need ambition, communication, focus, diplomacy, and a list of other shit that Mitt was not going to bring.
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Brad, your fine post reminded me somewhat of Mark Levin’s rant I heard last night on the radio.
He went on for over an hour… not bashing the left (well, a few jabs here and there) to make his point, but totally bashing the watered-down Republican party. He juxtaposed quotes from Bohner and Romney with those of Reagan and Churchill, stating that these guys today do not sound inspired, do not uphold excellence, and do not sound presidential.
Levin believes Romney’s loss had nothing to do with demographics, use of technology, or missing the base. He hammered the point that the right alienated certain parts of the population, especially over 3 million registered Republicans who did not vote, because the ticket had a weak contender. I don’t know if that’s completely true, but like in advertising - you can wrap it up in beautiful packaging and sell at a low price, but if it tastes bad, it’s not gonna sell.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
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LMFAO!!!
As a skateboarder myself, this really tickled me, DN!
Who makes these things?[/quote]
Haha! No idea.
I just typed ‘‘Obama gifs’’ and found them. lol!
Damn, you’re skateboarder? How did I miss that???
See what I’m imagining now, is that avi of yours (the dwarf guy, the one in Kakno’s avi) on a skateboard! LMFAO!!
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Just to be clear, I’m not one of those “rad” skateboarders who does all those vert and street tricks. I can’t risk breaking a hand or wrist.
I do, however ride a longboard. It’s big, got soft wheels and wide trucks, and feels like surfing. Give me a long, smooth, gradual incline, and I’m in soul-surfing heaven!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
He went on for over an hour… not bashing the left (well, a few jabs here and there) to make his point, but totally bashing the watered-down Republican party. He juxtaposed quotes from Bohner and Romney with those of Reagan and Churchill, stating that these guys today do not sound inspired, do not uphold excellence, and do not sound presidential.
Levin believes Romney’s loss had nothing to do with demographics, use of technology, or missing the base. He hammered the point that the right alienated certain parts of the population, especially over 3 million registered Republicans who did not vote, because the ticket had a weak contender. I don’t know if that’s completely true, but like in advertising - you can wrap it up in beautiful packaging and sell at a low price, but if it tastes bad, it’s not gonna sell.[/quote]
Correct. The strength of the Repulican party is to be the Jewish Grandmother party that takes a deep breathe and prioritizes spending, while recongnizing the competing interest in the family. Nobody likes that kind of advice, but we all know we need it.
Romney was not that guy. He was a guy running for president because his dad ran for president.
Ryan might be that guy, if he doen’t fall into the polics crap. Perhaps it’s too late for him.
The geeky Indian Governor from Louisiana is that guy, but he’s so geeky, I don’t see him pulling it off, unless we get wise and go after anti-politicians like him.
[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
… The strength of the Repulican party is to be the Jewish Grandmother party that takes a deep breathe and prioritizes spending, while recongnizing the competing interest in the family. Nobody likes that kind of advice, but we all know we need it.
Romney was not that guy. He was a guy running for president because his dad ran for president.
Ryan might be that guy, if he doen’t fall into the polics crap. Perhaps it’s too late for him.
The geeky Indian Governor from Louisiana is that guy, but he’s so geeky, I don’t see him pulling it off, unless we get wise and go after anti-politicians like him.[/quote]
LOL @ Jewish Grandmother Party!
Sorry for the previous thread hijack, DN!
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
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HA!!! “…kill the guy I’m confused with”
I’m no Obama fan, but regardless, that pic was fucking hilarious.
I’m also not trying to turn this into a storm fest, but I do find the dynamic between race and politics interesting.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
What’s your point right here? [/quote]
The point about Stacy Dash is she received a lot of back lash from other black people for supporting romney that was racially based. It is just an example of a lack of tolerance by the black community, as in she was no longer “black” if she preferred romney.
I guess my point being many black people that are republican are attacked, racially, by other black people.
I’ve seen the case that it is actually the dems that are in fact still the party of racists made by black republicans, yes. Alfonzo Rachel has quite a few videos on the subject.
What do I think? I don’t really know, but I can’t discount his opinion or some simple logic tests that don’t pass the sniff test.
That isn’t to say that there isn’t white racists that identify with the republican party, no not at all the case. While the minority, there are still white people who are racist, yes.
Zo addresses this a lot as well. But when you look at it, a lot of the future of the republican party is minority: Allen West, Mia Love, Marco Rubio, Herman Cain. And don’t forget Condi Rice…
Conservatives believe in rule of law. No one wants hispanics out of the country. Conservatives want people to follow the law, whether they be hispanic, black, white, whatever. Immigration is a matter of costs and rule of law.
If you added “of people that think just like they do” then fine. But they can be just as stubborn about their beliefs as other parties.
I don’t minority spot, so I’ll take your word for it.
[quote] But how do you know some things haven’t been accomplished?
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Some things have, sure. But the answer to this question is beyond the scope of the thread really.