I am Absolutly Disgusted in Myself!

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[quote]Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Wtf man. I would be surprised if you had any “mates” after that.

I doubt you’ve ever been in a similar situation.

Don’t assume to know anything about me how about that.

So let me get this straight. You’ve defended people with your bare hands against multiple opponents carrying weapons? If you have, I commend you.[/quote]

Ive been in fights where me and a few friends have gotten into fights with a group of people, some had weapons some didn’t.

I’m also smart enough to know that if there close enough to punch me in the face that I can tackle there ass there weapon is pretty much useless. from the sounds of his story it was 2-3 of his friends besides him. that more then enough to hand these guys the beating they needed.

And who goes out into the hallway if they think there is a fight going on without at least having a knife on hand. Then again I don’t know the laws there, he does live in a country where its virtually illegal to defend yourself.

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“all because they thought we were shouting abuse at them from our windows.”
Our gene pool is so fucked.

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[quote]Artem wrote:
“all because they thought we were shouting abuse at them from our windows.”
Our gene pool is so fucked.[/quote]

QFT

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your just realizing this? lol! I thought that way after MJ does what he does to kids and some people supported that thing, they call a human.

[quote]Artem wrote:
Our gene pool is so fucked.[/quote]

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Yea I wouldnt sweat it man there wasnt much you
could do in that situation but Im gonna have to agree with elano that you should arm yourself. If guns are illegal there (which is really sad)
then at least get a knife or somethin… cheers.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
John S. wrote:
Wtf man. I would be surprised if you had any “mates” after that.

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you ran when your friends needed you. That’s about as low as you can go, I mean i would understand if you went into your room to get a weapon and came out and the shit was over but this, this is just sad.[/quote]

so then what is he to do.
Run in there get smashed as well and then be dead or near dead where he can not help after?

let me guess,you have never been in anything like this before.
you want to run around playing the tough guy,well Im sorry when shit goes down this is not the movies, he did the right thing

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[quote]John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Wtf man. I would be surprised if you had any “mates” after that.

I doubt you’ve ever been in a similar situation.

Don’t assume to know anything about me how about that.

So let me get this straight. You’ve defended people with your bare hands against multiple opponents carrying weapons? If you have, I commend you.

Ive been in fights where me and a few friends have gotten into fights with a group of people, some had weapons some didn’t.

I’m also smart enough to know that if there close enough to punch me in the face that I can tackle there ass there weapon is pretty much useless. from the sounds of his story it was 2-3 of his friends besides him. that more then enough to hand these guys the beating they needed.

And who goes out into the hallway if they think there is a fight going on without at least having a knife on hand. Then again I don’t know the laws there, he does live in a country where its virtually illegal to defend yourself.[/quote]

Firstly you sir are a fucking idiot, most likely a school kid and never thrown fists ever in your life.

Second the guys were caught and arrested friends were not hurt badly, and why,because someone had to keep their head and call for help.
if no one called for help then there would be one more bloody guy in the floor and nothing more.

it turned out the best it could.
and stop playing the internet tough guy your making yourself look like a pathetic pansy to people that really know better.
Your not fooling anyone so just stop it.

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[quote]Vegg wrote:

I’m also smart enough to know that if there close enough to punch me in the face that I can tackle there ass there weapon is pretty much useless. from the sounds of his story it was 2-3 of his friends besides him. that more then enough to hand these guys the beating they needed. [/quote]

If you tackle 1 of 4 guys with weapons, what makes you think that the other 3 won’t beat on you while you’re on the ground?

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you did what you could do best, relax man…
if you really want to able to defend your friend in a similar situation in the future…maybe you should take a martial art class :slight_smile:

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To the OP,

I think you made the best of a no-win scenario. Being confronted with stranger violence within your own home is shocking and many people wouldn’t have done the right thing; and that is to get the professional help in quickly, and before someone dies.

No one comes out of situations like this feeling great. And if it helps you getting rid of a distorted self-perception of defining yourself as an action hero - even better. People die because of that.

One more note though - I would seriously question the judgement of my flatmates who bring in drunken strangers into the house like this. Moving out may be an option.

Again - you did the right thing. Don’t beat yourself up for it.

Makkun

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[quote]MaddyD wrote:
Firstly you sir are a fucking idiot, most likely a school kid and never thrown fists ever in your life.

Second the guys were caught and arrested friends were not hurt badly, and why,because someone had to keep their head and call for help.
if no one called for help then there would be one more bloody guy in the floor and nothing more.

it turned out the best it could.
and stop playing the internet tough guy your making yourself look like a pathetic pansy to people that really know better.
Your not fooling anyone so just stop it.
[/quote]

Bingo.

John - you realize that you’re suggesting to this guy that he should have gone up against 4 large armed attackers, right? Where I’m from, it’s certainly not being a pussy when you don’t behave stupidly and rashly and wind up in an unwinnable situation. An iron bar means this guy could have gotten himself killed had he done something dumb.

Even someone trained in MA, that’s a lot to deal with. Life is not a Van Damme movie.

Say it got even further out of control, and he got put out - with no one calling the cops, who knows what these pricks may have done, particularly when his friends were incapacitated.

You did the right thing dude. You called the cops, you got shit under control and it all worked out. Don’t be too hard on yourself - maybe use this shitty experience to motivate yourself to lift harder and heavier and perhaps take some MA…

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[quote]thosebananas wrote:
the police just came back round.

they got the guys… booked them on ABH, GBH, and forced entry.
[/quote]

So now they’ll get ass-raped in jail. If you hadn’t called they’d have got away. Just hope they get an extra thrust (dry, of course) for every moment of pain they caused your mates. Case closed.

Oh, and you’re not a pussy or coward, you’re civilised. Fighting is the last option.

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The fact that you’re aware of it is a good thing. Learn from that and get over it.
At least you didn’t hide under your bed and you call an ambulance…

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I also agree that you did good. You made a split second choice under very difficult and unexpected circumstances. Nobody can tell you how a scenario like that would play out and how they would deal with it unless it happened to them.

As far as I’m concerned, you made the right choice by calling the police. You did not let anger or ego get the better of you, and made a rational decision under extreme pressure.

There is no right choice in a situation like that. The best you can hope for is to take some kind of action and not just freeze up. You didn’t, so you have NOTHING to be ashamed of.

It’s easy for people to calmly analyze what should’ve been done, but wading in could’ve made things far, far worse.
You were the only one that didn’t end up forced into a physical confrontation, so you were the only one in a position to call the police and ambulance.

If you’d gotten involved, there would be no-one to make the phone call and those losers could’ve been in your home for a lot longer. Don’t regret what you did. You couldn’t call the cops and confront these intruders at the same time. A choice had to be made, and you made it.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Wtf man. I would be surprised if you had any “mates” after that.

I doubt you’ve ever been in a similar situation.

Don’t assume to know anything about me how about that.

So let me get this straight. You’ve defended people with your bare hands against multiple opponents carrying weapons? If you have, I commend you.

Ive been in fights where me and a few friends have gotten into fights with a group of people, some had weapons some didn’t.

I’m also smart enough to know that if there close enough to punch me in the face that I can tackle there ass there weapon is pretty much useless. from the sounds of his story it was 2-3 of his friends besides him. that more then enough to hand these guys the beating they needed.

And who goes out into the hallway if they think there is a fight going on without at least having a knife on hand. Then again I don’t know the laws there, he does live in a country where its virtually illegal to defend yourself.[/quote]

It’s “virtually illegal to defend yourself” in this country?
What kinda fuckin muppet are ya?

Great lotta good you’d be in such a situation…run in to the room thinkin you’re steven fuckin seagal …metal pipe to the skull…hit the floor.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
It’s cool man, you made the right moves. Call the police first (even thought they are generally fairly useless, lol), then tell the attackers the cops are on the way, to scare them off, then take care of the injured and wounded.

Text book stuff.

Anyone who says you should have jumped on the multiple attackers, using only your hands and your bad breath as weapons of mass destruction, have only a tenuous grasp on reality IMO.

BBB[/quote]

QFT

hallways are particularly precarious.
blunt force trauma when you’re backed up against a wall is extra damaging.
and if your justice system is like ours in the US, say you miraculously prevailed against all odds - guess what? you’re doing time in prison for your courageous efforts.
politically referred to as “the states monopoly on the use of force” or something similar.

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bananas, you did the right thing. those who say otherwise don’t know what they are talking about.

yes you could have done better, but you did the best you could with your experience/abilities.

getting backup (cops) is a good idea.

you could have re-entered the room armed, although probably best to keep that weapon hidden at first. no guns, then something else you keep as a weapon in your room. tell me you have SOMETHING.

the thing is with situations like that is that you don’t know what is going on and anything can go down.

and it could have gone real bad

in this particular situation it needed to be defused.

the guys who broke in are assholes and i hope they are jailed for a long time. even if they were being called names, you don’t go breaking into a house and beating people. that was 10 minutes away from manslaughter.

someone mentioned they could tackle the guy with the weapon and render the weapon useless: BULLSHIT. How many times I’ve seen guys do that and end up on the ground with their head stomped on- repeatedly. same goes for most grappling if you go to ground.

as I said earlier it can go so wrong, so fast.

someone also mentioned that you had a lot of mates around you as well - no you didn’t, most of them were drunk and already beaten/blindsided. My guess is the intruders were sober (or at least more sober).

someone else said “Even with a knife most people aren’t dangerous. They don’t understand how to use the weapon, any weapon for that matter. Take a martial art like brazilian jiu jitsu and learn how to beat some ass with your always available body.”

man, you know NOTHING. people with a knife and no idea are the most dangerous, with no idea of the consequences or the damage they can do they just stab insanely and often, when you aren’t looking, in the back or neck, whilst you are brazilian jiu jitsuing their friend.

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[quote]John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Vegg wrote:
John S. wrote:
Wtf man. I would be surprised if you had any “mates” after that.

I doubt you’ve ever been in a similar situation.

Don’t assume to know anything about me how about that.

So let me get this straight. You’ve defended people with your bare hands against multiple opponents carrying weapons? If you have, I commend you.

Ive been in fights where me and a few friends have gotten into fights with a group of people, some had weapons some didn’t.

I’m also smart enough to know that if there close enough to punch me in the face that I can tackle there ass there weapon is pretty much useless. from the sounds of his story it was 2-3 of his friends besides him. that more then enough to hand these guys the beating they needed.

And who goes out into the hallway if they think there is a fight going on without at least having a knife on hand. Then again I don’t know the laws there, he does live in a country where its virtually illegal to defend yourself.[/quote]

we thought it was some sort of lover spate between the people my flat mate had brought back. there wasnt anything else about from the “stay down” shout. we opened the door to expect to see a few drunk people having a bitch fight, instead we saw 4 meatheads, one with an obvious iron rod. which i have just found out was ripped of the banisters in our hallway. 3 foot of iron, about 15 kilos in weight.

i opened the door and saw 4 guys in my own flat when i had no reason to suspect anything as terrifying as that. and i also didnt see any of my flat mates or the other injured. i just saw these dudes. i dont know if i would have reacted different if i had saw injured parties lying on the ground or watever.

Scott

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In such a situation, you generally are in shock then you react on first instincts, but like it or not, stepping back from the situation and calling the cops was the best way to handle it.

That was the best way to diffuse the situation, life isn’t a Jackie Chan movie, you could have got hit in the head and killed.

It’s highly doubtful it would’ve ended well for you or anyone else if you took another course of action even though it left a dissatisfied feeling about what happened.