[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.[/quote]
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
Really? Retarded? That’s not at all an overstatement and misuse of the word.
Definition of “retarded” according to m-w.com
sometimes offensive : slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
If you honestly believe that putting a minimum age law on purchasing steroids will keep steroids out of the hands of people who are too young to be safely using them, then yes, I think you’re “slow or limited in intellectual development.”
But, hey, if you want to split hairs like that, then switch “retarded” out for “ignorant” or “naive.”
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Well, if you think that kids using something they’re not supposed to has stopped it from being legal… If AAS had a lobby that was making money then it would be legal. It has nothing to do with saving the children. So, if you truly believe that the legalization of steroids has to do with the teenager’s endocrine system then yes, I think you are very limited in your intellect.
Also, if you don’t want to split hairs, continue to trivialize a word that is offensive to a many people, I’m sure you’ll point out to me that the “retards” will never know they’re being insulted anyway.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.[/quote]
lol. 100% agree.
Why is it that people seem to forget a little thing called “personal responsibility”?
If AAS were legal and there were guidelines and regulation as to how its adminstered well then the kid who goes and finds a means to getting it and has adverse effects, guess what, its his fault an no one else. The regulations and guidelines are there for a reason (all hypothetical).
Now cigarettes and alcohol having an age restriction is a whole other issue.
First of all, define “being legal.” I took it as being able to buy something OTC.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.[/quote]
I never said this. However, finding a legitimate source for AAS is harder than a high school aged kid saying “Yo brohamalamski, I’ll give you 200 bucks to go to CVS and buy me two bottles of JUICE!”
If it were that easy to obtain AAS, would you argue that we would have MORE kids with fucked up endocrine systems?
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
Well, if you think that kids using something they’re not supposed to has stopped it from being legal… If AAS had a lobby that was making money then it would be legal. It has nothing to do with saving the children. So, if you truly believe that the legalization of steroids has to do with the teenager’s endocrine system then yes, I think you are very limited in your intellect.
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I also never said teenage endocrine systems were the reason that steroids are illegal. I said if they were legal (as in, available OTC), then we would have too many (even more than we do now) kids with fucked up endocrine systems.
Shut the fuck up. T-Nation isn’t the place to argue your “politically correct” argument. Plus, it’s completely irrelevant to the original post.
[quote]phishfood1128 wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
lol. 100% agree.
Why is it that people seem to forget a little thing called “personal responsibility”?
If AAS were legal and there were guidelines and regulation as to how its adminstered well then the kid who goes and finds a means to getting it and has adverse effects, guess what, its his fault an no one else. The regulations and guidelines are there for a reason (all hypothetical).
Now cigarettes and alcohol having an age restriction is a whole other issue. [/quote]
You need to stop giving your input on the subject. You didn’t even know that steroids can be prescribed by doctors, and said steroids are controlled and regulated by the FDA. (note: steroids obtained from doctors, with a script, are controlled, not the black market ones, since people on this thread have excellent reading comprehension.)
Personal responsibility? Please. Have you ever seen high schoolers drink? “Personal responsibility” aren’t the words that come to mind. Expecting them to be knowledgeable about AAS use is way too much to ask. It’s a case of not knowing what you don’t know.
The original post asked if it would be better if marijuana or steroids were legal. The answer is marijuana.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
First of all, define “being legal.” I took it as being able to buy something OTC.
Steel Nation wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
I never said this. However, finding a legitimate source for AAS is harder than a high school aged kid saying “Yo brohamalamski, I’ll give you 200 bucks to go to CVS and buy me two bottles of JUICE!”
If it were that easy to obtain AAS, would you argue that we would have MORE kids with fucked up endocrine systems?
chimera182 wrote:
Well, if you think that kids using something they’re not supposed to has stopped it from being legal… If AAS had a lobby that was making money then it would be legal. It has nothing to do with saving the children. So, if you truly believe that the legalization of steroids has to do with the teenager’s endocrine system then yes, I think you are very limited in your intellect.
I also never said teenage endocrine systems were the reason that steroids are illegal. I said if they were legal (as in, available OTC), then we would have too many (even more than we do now) kids with fucked up endocrine systems.
Also, if you don’t want to split hairs, continue to trivialize a word that is offensive to a many people, I’m sure you’ll point out to me that the “retards” will never know they’re being insulted anyway.
Shut the fuck up. T-Nation isn’t the place to argue your “politically correct” argument. Plus, it’s completely irrelevant to the original post.[/quote]
If it’s not the place for political correctness, then why would I shut up? Also, dude relax I’m not trying to start an internet war. I just think there’s political correctness, which is stupid, and then there’s just not mocking people with mental problems.
Personal responsibility? Please. Have you ever seen high schoolers drink? “Personal responsibility” aren’t the words that come to mind. Expecting them to be knowledgeable about AAS use is way too much to ask. It’s a case of not knowing what you don’t know.
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And yet it is still legal for people of age to drink. I’m just saying that people being stupid is not grounds for making something illegal.
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
phishfood1128 wrote:
Steel Nation wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
For everyone saying there’d be an age requirement for steroids… If you think that it will keep it out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
If you think having them banned now keeps them out of the hands of kids, you’re retarded.
lol. 100% agree.
Why is it that people seem to forget a little thing called “personal responsibility”?
If AAS were legal and there were guidelines and regulation as to how its adminstered well then the kid who goes and finds a means to getting it and has adverse effects, guess what, its his fault an no one else. The regulations and guidelines are there for a reason (all hypothetical).
Now cigarettes and alcohol having an age restriction is a whole other issue.
You need to stop giving your input on the subject. You didn’t even know that steroids can be prescribed by doctors, and said steroids are controlled and regulated by the FDA. (note: steroids obtained from doctors, with a script, are controlled, not the black market ones, since people on this thread have excellent reading comprehension.)
Personal responsibility? Please. Have you ever seen high schoolers drink? “Personal responsibility” aren’t the words that come to mind. Expecting them to be knowledgeable about AAS use is way too much to ask. It’s a case of not knowing what you don’t know.
The original post asked if it would be better if marijuana or steroids were legal. The answer is marijuana. [/quote]
okay let me stop posting because you said so and because you feel marijuana is the “correct answer” meanwhile this is all hypothetical and based on personal opinions. Yes i do know steroids can be prescribed and so can marijuana. So why are you posting on this thread if thats how you are looking at this issue? Obviously we were not talking about the legalization of steroids and marijuana at its present state.
You are basically saying something shouldnt be legal because certain people cant make the right choices. I say let people make their own decisions and pay the price themselves if it was a bad decision but i dont feel like someone should dictate what i can and cant do because they make poor choices. Any item that is illegal or legal but age restricted will always find it way to the “illegal customer”.
[quote]pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.[/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly.
This thread has become an epiphany of mutual disagreement for me lolol
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
I agree wholeheartedly. [/quote]
Pat… isn’t that called Anarchy?
[quote]CCJDilla wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Pat… isn’t that called Anarchy?[/quote]
There was a time when drugs were legal. Making them illegal I think causes more harm than good.
[quote]pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.[/quote]
Its actually agianst the CONSTITUTION to limit what you can put in your body.
The constitution LITERALLY protects that exact right.
The drug laws were created because of opiate and later morphine addiction, it was so out of control it was ridiculous, something had to be done in the interest of the whole United States.
Those laws are not constitutional, but are upheld because they are needed, its a strange area actually, the public good and safety is deemed to override a right granted in the constitution.
[quote]CCJDilla wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Pat… isn’t that called Anarchy?[/quote]
Law is needed for the general public- not for you.
[quote]Grey Rainbow wrote:
CCJDilla wrote:
chimera182 wrote:
pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Pat… isn’t that called Anarchy?
Law is needed for the general public- not for you.[/quote]
LoL, good, reiterate my point blatantly for him to understand 
[quote]Westclock wrote:
pat wrote:
Legalize everything, period. Ain’t the man’s business what I put in my body if it ain’t bothering anybody else.
Its actually agianst the CONSTITUTION to limit what you can put in your body.
The constitution LITERALLY protects that exact right.
The drug laws were created because of opiate and later morphine addiction, it was so out of control it was ridiculous, something had to be done in the interest of the whole United States.
Those laws are not constitutional, but are upheld because they are needed, its a strange area actually, the public good and safety is deemed to override a right granted in the constitution.[/quote]
Well, there was an issue with one drug law act:
Constitution: Innocent till’ proven guilty
Drug Law (Section I forget): Suspect must prove himself innocent (if he was not in possesion of drugs for trafficking).
Therefore, the constitution and Drug Laws were conflicting, this was fixed, but, I do believe there are still issues even today…
My point being, the entire Constitution and any section of law are sketchy, and, will conflict each other A LOT, so, it’s a mish mash and stuff.
drug laws were created for the fact, not beacause of addiction but of fear and racism.
[quote]bartonmlee wrote:
drug laws were created for the fact, not beacause of addiction but of fear and racism.[/quote]
The original opiate laws were simply a shot at Asians.
But the long reaching legislation that we think of today was in response to rampant morphine usage and deaths.
Superdrol and clones and other steroids have been freely and openly available OTC for years. Where are the bodies? If steroids were decriminalized and doctors could prescribe them freely like they do boner pills, without fear of legal repercussions I think things would be the same or safer than they are now.
Marijuana is technically, at the federal level, still a controlled substance with no recognized medical benefits, so those stoners who operate and patronize medical marijuana businesses could be arrested by federal law enforcement at any time. The idea that something can be legalized for medical use through ballot measures without extensive testing and FDA approval is the part that I hate about the people who talk about legalizing it.
Just admit that you like to get high. I understand, I think it should be the same legality wise as alcohol.