[quote]lucasa wrote:
And the funny part is, he’ll swear up and down he’s not an elitist jackass.[/quote]
What does that have to do with my question?
Let me spell out my point, since you seem to need stuff to be spelled out for you:
I was not making fun of the “Big 10”. I jokingly mentioned Stanford, Harvard and Princeton, because in the past several conservatives around here claimed those institutions had a majority of left-biased professors that were trying to somehow assimilate all their students into leftism.
HH was basically claiming that at least one of the Big 10 colleges should be added to that left-biased list. I am just curious as to which one. I may know people there, and figure out where his teacher colleague got this idea from.
Of course, odds are it is THE Ohio State, however people do go out of state for college you know?
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Haha, who doesn’t know what the Big X is? There may be 11 of them, and they may not be as dominant football teams as the SEC, but still…[/quote]
Why are you guys so eager to believe I didn’t know what the Big 10 is? You do realize that even if I didn’t, it would be trivial for me to Google it, right?
Does believing I do not know something that trivial makes you look smarter?
You remind me of a guy I knew in college that always made a big fuss of his claim that one of our Calculus teachers didn’t know how to tie his shoes, a claim he based on the fact only once he saw him wearing shoes with laces and they happened to be untied.
He really seemed to enjoy the thought that one of his Calculus professors couldn’t tie his shoes.
Suffice to say that guy never got his major. He really wasn’t too bright.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Just search for his article here about DNP. [/quote]
I don’t need to search it. I was very aware of what you were referring to with your comment. I read his article when it first came out, after having followed the thread that was created as he was taking DNP. If you actually do a bit of research, you will find out in about 10 seconds why DNP spikes my interest, and if you had been around scientists for any extended period of time, you’d realize how much value people like Anthony have and how much you actually owe them.
The reason my comment was vague is because I was trying to mellow it a bit. Trust me, it wasn’t the first version of the post.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
hit the nail on the proverbial head. [/quote]
So, The Ohio State, hum? Well, as State Universities go, it’s one of the best, right after Penn State.
Of course, State Universities are not exactly the pinnacle of the US Higher Education, but, again, Ohio is actually pretty good.
I know a couple of people there in the Department of Geological Sciences and I’ll talk to them to see if they know anyone in the Department of History. It’s a different college, but you never know.
I’ve never heard such ridiculous rant about a fuckin book in my life. It’s not like we’re talking about Mein Kamf.
In my opinion this is one of the best if not THE best and most historically accurate works of American History that there is. Before I read this book I had no idea that Colombus murdered thousands of natives, and other atrocities that Zinn brings to public view. Some of his points of view may be taken as extreme, but compared to the far right teachings of history that public schools and universities teach, I can only take his work as a attempt to bring an unbiast point of view of history to the public.
Personally this is one of my favorite books, and I don’t see how anyone can criticize this book as being ideological when it portrays the horrors of American history as well as the good. It brings both sides of history, social and political, to light, and is far more accurate than the bullshit propaganda that we are forced to study as truth in school.
Marx was a cold-blooded killer, the longest range murderer on earth. He knew what he was creating. Let’s damn him and move on.
And the above statement could be the most ignorant shit I’ve ever heard in my life.
What does that have to do with my question?[/quote]
Very little, that’s why I replied to Zap.
Obviously, your mind works on planes that we don’t approach. You could’ve just left it at ‘you misunderstood me’ but clearly spelling it out for us all really distanced you from your elitist jackass label.
And it’s the Big 10, not the “Big 10” any more than it’s “Stanford”. Jackass.
You misunderstood me, but I’ll spell it out for you;
Zap referred to it as Ohio State, as well, I made a jest as to your elitist nature. In order to bring levity to the situation as well as ‘correct’ Zap I added the “THE”. Supposing that wasn’t obvious enough to minds that operate on planes above and below mine, I added a smiley which apparently was insufficient.
And I think you owe me part of the cookie I helped you earn.
DISCLAIMER This post was written largely tongue-in-cheek (not the cookie part). While hspder is an elitist jackass, that is only my (and several others’) opinion. Further, even elitist jackasses could contribute to a discussion. However, when they overreact to jesting comments they deserve ridicule just like the rest of us.END DISCLAIMER
BTW, Columbus finding the New World was indirectly responsible for killing millions of people through the introduction of new diseases.
I am aware that Columbus kidnapped some natives and brought them back to Europe and I am aware he killed a few people as well. I am not aware of him directly killing thousands. Could you expand on this?
[quote]c/j wrote:
I’ve never heard such ridiculous rant about a fuckin book in my life. It’s not like we’re talking about Mein Kamf.
In my opinion this is one of the best if not THE best and most historically accurate works of American History that there is. Before I read this book I had no idea that Colombus murdered thousands of natives, and other atrocities that Zinn brings to public view. Some of his points of view may be taken as extreme, but compared to the far right teachings of history that public schools and universities teach, I can only take his work as a attempt to bring an unbiast point of view of history to the public.
Personally this is one of my favorite books, and I don’t see how anyone can criticize this book as being ideological when it portrays the horrors of American history as well as the good. It brings both sides of history, social and political, to light, and is far more accurate than the bullshit propaganda that we are forced to study as truth in school.
Marx was a cold-blooded killer, the longest range murderer on earth. He knew what he was creating. Let’s damn him and move on.
And the above statement could be the most ignorant shit I’ve ever heard in my life.[/quote]
Question: why were there no more Arawaks around, when Colombus got to the Caribbean?
[quote]lucasa wrote:
In order to bring levity to the situation as well as ‘correct’ Zap I added the “THE”.[/quote]
Yeah, you’re REALLY doing a GREAT job at bringing levity to the situation. Absolutely.
Newsflash: if you start a post by calling somebody an “elitist jackass”, there’s no amount of joking that will recover from that.
You also seem to be doing a great job as spelling-Nazi, since HH – who lives in Ohio – completely ignored you and just wrote Ohio State instead of THE Ohio State. I liked that.
Actually, at this point, I hold HH in much higher regard than I do you…
By the way, I will make sure I use “Big 10” instead of Big 10 from now on, now that I know that seems to upset you. The entertainment value is well worth the two keystrokes.
[quote] "I’ve never heard such an accurate rant about a ridiclous fuckin book in my life. It’s not like we’re talking about Mein Kamf. (The Nazis only killed a couple of dozen million human beings. The Marxists have a death toll which was well into nine digits!)
In my opinion this is one of the, if not THE worst and least historically accurate works of American History that there is. Before I read this book I had no idea that Colombus and the smallpox that he brought along murdered thousands of natives, and other atrocities that Zinn brings to public view, like the murdering of over 100 million innocent citizens by the disciples of Marx from 1900-1989. Most of his points of view are extreme and not well-thought out, but compared to the far left teachings of history (that public schools and universities teach), I can only take his work as a attempt to bring an ubsubstantiated, Marxist point of view of history to the public.
Personally this is one of my least favorite books, and I don’t see how anyone can fail to criticize this book as being ideological when it only portrays the horrors of American history and none of the good. It brings only the worst aspects of history, social and political, to light, and is far less accurate than the bullshit propaganda that I never bothered to study as truth in school.
Marx’s disciples – Stalin, Ho Chi Minh, Mao Tse Tung, Castro, etc. – were cold-blooded killers, the longest range murderers on earth. They knew what they were creating: the most horrific, bloody, brutal tyrranies the world has ever encountered. Real attempts at socialism led to more than double the deaths of all the casualties of all the wars of the last century combined. Marx’s theories were proven wrong in a way that was more destructive than any other man-made force in human history. Let’s damn them and move on.
And everything I said and have to add to this thread will be the most ignorant shit I’ve ever heard in my life." [/quote]
[quote]hspder wrote:
lucasa wrote:
In order to bring levity to the situation as well as ‘correct’ Zap I added the “THE”.
Yeah, you’re REALLY doing a GREAT job at bringing levity to the situation. Absolutely.
Newsflash: if you start a post by calling somebody an “elitist jackass”, there’s no amount of joking that will recover from that.
You also seem to be doing a great job as spelling-Nazi, since HH – who lives in Ohio – completely ignored you and just wrote Ohio State instead of THE Ohio State. I liked that.
Actually, at this point, I hold HH in much higher regard than I do you…
By the way, I will make sure I use “Big 10” instead of Big 10 from now on, now that I know that seems to upset you. The entertainment value is well worth the two keystrokes.
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Nearly every keystroke of your last several posts has been nothing but entertaining to me. The more you type, the funnier it gets.
Nothing beats making a joke about someone being an elitist jackass and then having them play the role to the 9’s.
[quote]hspder wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Haha, who doesn’t know what the Big X is? There may be 11 of them, and they may not be as dominant football teams as the SEC, but still…
Why are you guys so eager to believe I didn’t know what the Big 10 is? You do realize that even if I didn’t, it would be trivial for me to Google it, right?
Does believing I do not know something that trivial makes you look smarter?
You remind me of a guy I knew in college that always made a big fuss of his claim that one of our Calculus teachers didn’t know how to tie his shoes, a claim he based on the fact only once he saw him wearing shoes with laces and they happened to be untied.
He really seemed to enjoy the thought that one of his Calculus professors couldn’t tie his shoes.
Suffice to say that guy never got his major. He really wasn’t too bright.
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If your sarcasm went over my head, I apologize, but it sure looked like you didn’t know what the Big 10 was. It’s your elitism everyone is having fun with here, not your intelligence. Relax. I’m halfway through a PhD myself, only my first, but I’ve been in academia long enough to realize degrees, and even an elite university pedigree, are often not as much of a stamp of intellect as one might think.
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
If your sarcasm went over my head, I apologize, but it sure looked like you didn’t know what the Big 10 was.[/quote]
Things are seldom what they look like. And, as I said, it is such a trivial and common piece of knowledge I’m flabbergasted by the level of fuss my sarcastic remark created.
Talking about sarcasm, I am having problems reconciling these two seemingly contradictory comments:
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
It’s your elitism everyone is having fun with here, not your intelligence.
Relax.[/quote]
or
[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
I’m halfway through a PhD myself, only my first, but I’ve been in academia long enough to realize degrees, and even an elite university pedigree, are often not as much of a stamp of intellect as one might think.[/quote]
?
It sounds a bit passive-aggressive, that’s all.
By the way, are you willing to share what area of research are you in? Don’t interpret that as a jab, I’m genuinely curious…
[quote]Anthony Roberts wrote:
It’s odd, that you’d claim my teachers were left wing. I went to Seton Hall University, which is a Catholic university. [/quote]
It’s all relative. Catholics are clearly to the left of HH’s views. At least in the US.
It’s actually quite fascinating how in Europe the Catholic Church is associated with the far right (they went as far as basically supporting Hitler), while here they are seen as lefties because a majority of Catholics do associate themselves with the Democratic party…
Well this thread has convinced to read this book. I needed something to stimulate the old brain this summer. It sounds interesting, no matter how fucked up/accurate it is.
Question: why were there no more Arawaks around, when Colombus got to the Caribbean?
Weren’t most of them killed by storm troopers trying to distract the Empire while the rebels were brought down the Death Star?[/quote]
Nope, the gentle and peaceful Caribs ATE them all, men, women, and children. I don’t defend Columbus’ treatment of them, but they were a bunch of goddamn cannibals. How would you treat someone who fought, not to kill you, but to disable you so you could be eaten alive?
There favorite way to do all of this was to tie a person to a pole and cut/tear off pieces of that person. Imagine being strung up, having someone cut off your right quad and eat it while you scream and watch. Then here comes another cannibal…
I think the world is better off without the ancestors of Hannibal the Cannibal.