You may not want to eat carp given the choice, however they grow to monstrous porportions and can be found anywhere. You’re also doing the environment a favor.
re: Environment
How’s that? (not to hijack thread-- sorry)
they root the ground in lakes and rivers up preventing plant matter from growing. Plant matter is typically the bottom of the food chain. Killing it off has disaterous effects on the ecosystem.
Wait, so what you just said is, to ‘do the environment a favor’ (ie protect it?), dont eat the carp so they can root the ground and prevent plant matter from growing (ie ‘kill… it off’)that fuels the food chain…?
I’m missing something here. Sorry, just trying to follow this…
I said you may not want to eat them normally, because outside of the asian food markets, people view them as a trash fish. If you have to carp are a large edible fish. If you don’t need to eat them. Stick a knife in them and leave the body to return nutrients back to the environment.
I would never eat one but they are easy to farm. You could probably pickle them or smoke them. They are bottom feeders so the pond should stay pretty clean. [/quote]
a pond looking clean doesn’t mean it’s clean. With carp the ammonia and nitrates will sky rocket. especially if few plants can grow to help filter it.
Here’s a relevant question: what are the most depression-proof jobs? My current job will probably be the first thing to go in the event of a depression. I’m guessing doctors will still be useful.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Here’s a relevant question: what are the most depression-proof jobs? My current job will probably be the first thing to go in the event of a depression. I’m guessing doctors will still be useful.[/quote]
College teaching is probably the best, provided you are already tenured. Colleges boom when unemployed people flood in to get education for whatever jobs there are.
Local police and firefighters will lose jobs in droves because of massive deficits (Cali and Mass are begging the Feds for $$$$ right now), but military jobs will expand, in order to police the nation. Joining the National Guard is an option. Someone has to police all the rioting and hunger panics.
Civil engineering should boom with make-work projects, especially since we have a terrible and old infrastructure.
[quote]AynRandLuvr wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I’m going to start a “depression survival” company and milk every one of you fear mongering motherfuckers for everything you have.
Economic depressions have been a fact of life since human beings came to be. The fruits in the jungle disappeared so we had to move. The crops failed due to drought or flooding and we had to move. Governments debased the money supply so the Huns invaded. Depressions are NOT new. We haven’t had one now for 68 years. Has our bungling and inept government managed to repeal laws of nature and economics?
We are 10 trillion in debt and that’s just what’s on the books. The government is debasing the currency by tens of billions per day, just to try and fill an expanding ‘black hole’.
Just as a farmer can recognize a drought, I can recognize the simple facts in front of me. Just like the farmer, I hope it rains tomorrow. I hope all the debts and bankruptcies disappear. How likely is that?
If that makes me a ‘fear mongering motherfucker’, then fine. You won’t be prepared, I am. Maybe I’ll need a CPA in the future.
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Fear mongering is all you have done since you began posting in this forum.
I don’t know why you are so offended by it. I merely said I plan to milk everyone of you motherfuckers for everything you have.
Your thread is about how to survive a depression. I gave you my plan. I’m sorry it doesn’t involve Rambo knives, waterproof matches, or harvesting heating fuel from abandoned gold mines.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
doogie wrote:
Work in a depression proof industry. Teach or nurse.
The only depression proof industry is farming. Farmers cannot afford to send their children to school. Likewise, they die early in life because they cannot afford medical care either.
Survival tip number one: consume less, save more.
You have no fucking clue what you are talking about. Every single one of my farmers has insurance. All of their kids go to school, and you might want to tell that dying young part to any of the 12 clients of mine who are still actively farming in their 80’s and the one guy in his 90’s.
They aren’t farming in a depression yet though are they? Prices will collapse because government cannot keep banks propped up with bailouts forever.
Family farmers will wither and die and you will lose your shirt. Find some new clientèle.[/quote]
Do you even pay attention to what you write?
First you say that farming is depression proof. Then you say that family farms will wither and die.
Either get a fucking clue or get the fuck out. Your stupidity about farming is making my teeth hurt.
[quote]belligerent wrote:
Here’s a relevant question: what are the most depression-proof jobs? My current job will probably be the first thing to go in the event of a depression. I’m guessing doctors will still be useful.[/quote]
My grandmother always said nurses and hair stylists. Because people will still get sick and want to look pretty, no matter what. Grandma was a little chauvinistic, so that advice may have been female-specific. I suspect she’d agree with you about doctors remaining necessary. On the frontier, which I know about because I read all the Little House on the Prairie books and then watched Frontier House on PBS, they always have a grocer, a doctor, and a priest somewhere nearby. As a community builds they add a lumber yard and a blacksmith.
But of course, this isn’t 1860.
P.S. I would also add to my grandma’s depression-proof-jobs-for-girls list prostitution. I’m not sure if the depression-proof-jobs-for-boys list would include pimping. Probably not. Oh! But selling booze is always a safe bet!
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
P.S. I would also add to my grandma’s depression-proof-jobs-for-girls list prostitution. I’m not sure if the depression-proof-jobs-for-boys list would include pimping. Probably not. Oh! But selling booze is always a safe bet!
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In a depression it is all about offering service that people are still willing to pay for or a service that can be bartered easily.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
First you say that farming is depression proof. Then you say that family farms will wither and die.
ADM, Conagra, Cargill…? Do any of those names ring a bell?
You’re clients are going to be share-croppers soon.[/quote]
Your ignorance is astounding.
Seriously - it’s truly laughable.
Where do you get your “knowledge” of the farming industry? More books?
You are a reader. Not a doer. You are one of the weak who try to convince themselves they matter by talking. Talkers will be the first to die. They always are.
But, in an effort to allow you to feel like you make a fucking difference - please tell me what a family farmer is, and exactly how he is going to become a share cropper.
And while you are feeling so cool and hip - define share cropper.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
P.S. I would also add to my grandma’s depression-proof-jobs-for-girls list prostitution. I’m not sure if the depression-proof-jobs-for-boys list would include pimping. Probably not. Oh! But selling booze is always a safe bet!
In a depression it is all about offering service that people are still willing to pay for or a service that can be bartered easily.
The highest paying job in a depression is crime.[/quote]
Be careful listening to Lifty. He knows nothing about life that he hasn’t read about.
He is a reader - not a doer. Life is what other people live while he picks out their mistakes.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
P.S. I would also add to my grandma’s depression-proof-jobs-for-girls list prostitution. I’m not sure if the depression-proof-jobs-for-boys list would include pimping. Probably not. Oh! But selling booze is always a safe bet!
In a depression it is all about offering service that people are still willing to pay for or a service that can be bartered easily.
The highest paying job in a depression is crime.[/quote]
The sin industry is certainly a consistent money-maker.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
P.S. I would also add to my grandma’s depression-proof-jobs-for-girls list prostitution. I’m not sure if the depression-proof-jobs-for-boys list would include pimping. Probably not. Oh! But selling booze is always a safe bet!
In a depression it is all about offering service that people are still willing to pay for or a service that can be bartered easily.
The highest paying job in a depression is crime.
Be careful listening to Lifty. He knows nothing about life that he hasn’t read about.
He is a reader - not a doer. Life is what other people live while he picks out their mistakes.
He is a sportswriter of life. [/quote]
Thanks for the heads up. I was just heading out to buy some crime-committing gear so I could be ready. Because I figured this was the place to obtain solid advice re: surviving a depression.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
What kind of crime committing gear do you you need? New boobs?
You are a chick, right? [/quote]
I was thinking a gun and some new shoes. Maybe a voice changer?
My boobs (yes, I am female) are fine. I’m not planning to engage in prostitution, anyway. I have a pretty strong sense of personal space and I prefer not to be touched by strangers.
I thought black marketeering would be more my speed. I look really trustworthy, which would be to my significant advantage in running things. Maybe I’ll add a new pair of glasses to my gear list, ones that make me look even dorkier and more earnest than my current pair does.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
AynRandLuvr wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I’m going to start a “depression survival” company and milk every one of you fear mongering motherfuckers for everything you have.
Economic depressions have been a fact of life since human beings came to be. The fruits in the jungle disappeared so we had to move. The crops failed due to drought or flooding and we had to move. Governments debased the money supply so the Huns invaded.
Depressions are NOT new. We haven’t had one now for 68 years. Has our bungling and inept government managed to repeal laws of nature and economics?
We are 10 trillion in debt and that’s just what’s on the books. The government is debasing the currency by tens of billions per day, just to try and fill an expanding ‘black hole’.
Just as a farmer can recognize a drought, I can recognize the simple facts in front of me. Just like the farmer, I hope it rains tomorrow. I hope all the debts and bankruptcies disappear. How likely is that?
If that makes me a ‘fear mongering motherfucker’, then fine. You won’t be prepared, I am. Maybe I’ll need a CPA in the future.
Fear mongering is all you have done since you began posting in this forum.
I don’t know why you are so offended by it. I merely said I plan to milk everyone of you motherfuckers for everything you have.
Your thread is about how to survive a depression. I gave you my plan. I’m sorry it doesn’t involve Rambo knives, waterproof matches, or harvesting heating fuel from abandoned gold mines.
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Not offended at all. But you may be a little late in starting the business.
Pawn shops should also do a healthy business. Gambling would flourish in a decaying environment, as would most forms of escapism, though you don’t impress me as the drug-dealer type. :>
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
The Mage wrote:
Depression huh?
I know this was not asked, but I think the chances of a depression are quite low. Recession, possible… but depression unlikely.
Semantics. Just because the government defined the term depression away does not change what they essentially are. How long do you think the government can continue to keep propping prices up by bailing out financial institutions?
You need to get a better understanding of what caused the depression.
Semantics. Just because the government defined the term depression away does not change what they essentially are.[/quote]
It was redefined, but I believe for psychological reasons. After the Great Depression, the mention of another depression could potentially cause panic.
Also we must understand the difference between what is now defined as a recession and a depression. One is so minor to the other that there should be more of a clarification. The actions I would believe the government should take during a real depression are different then what they should do for a recession.
I will use the modern terms.[quote]
How long do you think the government can continue to keep propping prices up by bailing out financial institutions?[/quote]
Not too long.
And at what point did you miss me pointing out that this was not the only piece of the puzzle, and that it was more complex then just the issues I was mentioning?
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And the above link you posted, interesting. I have only read through about half of it, but I don’t see how he is disagreeing with what I said.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I’m going to start a “depression survival” company and milk every one of you fear mongering motherfuckers for everything you have.
Sorry, the Federal Gov’t already has a head start on you.[/quote]
