[quote]hspder wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
And, btw, you didn’t ask a question.
No? Let me be clearer this time:
What is the mass of a neutrino?
(I expect a one-paragraph answer to that one – if you really know anything about Physics, you know why)
Bonus question:
How would you explain Time Dilation to a high-school student, in just one short paragraph (four to five sentences), in a way they could “get it”?[/quote]
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.[/quote]
He’s probably frantically going through books and websites trying to figure out what the heck I’m talking about.
He’ll eventually come back and say that he was too busy spending time with his family – without explaining why he felt the suddent urge to do that, since in the past few weeks he has had plenty of time to burn ranting towards and insulting the eViL liberals.
He’ll then proceed to provide us with a cop-out answer, with the depth that makes Paris Hilton look like a scholar.
Prove me wrong Headhunter, prove me wrong…
All I’ll ever need to know about time dilation I learned from the first season of Star Trek when I was 10.
“The City On The Edge Of Forever” and “Tomorrow Is Yesterday”, timeless classics.
Maybe that’s why I like “Boston Legal” so much: I know that if it wasn’t for William Shatner this planet, and possibly this whole galaxy, would have been destroyed eons before I was born.
[quote]hspder wrote:
ephrem wrote:
…just curious, what are the other 3 things you miss?
Dutch Graduate students, stroopwaffels and fritesaus.
Seriously.
Dutch Graduate students – at least the four batches I had over there – were amazing. Smart, educated and extremely intelligent. I didn’t even have to make an effort to get things through to them, and their essays were just a pleasure to read. They even had an English level better than most my students over here, and I could make fun of their typical mistakes (like gluing the adjectives to the nouns) which was good, because Nederlands leeren was niet zo grappig…
Unfortunately most Dutch people are very closed and depressed – I can’t blame them, considering how much of an effect that horrible weather had on us too – so it was very hard for us to make Dutch friends, and two of the ones we did committed suicide (seriously).
I can get stroopwaffels now at my local supermarket, but they’re not the same.
I can’t get real Dutch fritesaus anywhere over here. 
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…spring has finally arrived, and see if you can order those goodies from any of these sites: Escort Holland VIP - Escort Service Holland (-:
[quote]tme wrote:
Maybe that’s why I like “Boston Legal” so much:[/quote]
Actually – and seriously – today’s Boston Legal was a must-see for all of T-Nation: I believe they were the first show on TV to bring attention to the dangers of High Fructose Syrup that we’ve so often talked about here… Shirley Schmid’s speech was proof that there are Hollywood writers that can actually write intelligently about nutrition…
[quote]ephrem wrote:
…spring has finally arrived, and see if you can order those goodies from any of these sites: Escort Holland VIP - Escort Service Holland (-:[/quote]
Hey, I said I missed it – I didn’t say I was desperate enough to actually order it on the Internet (even from a US site) and pay the shipping costs!
The fact that there are people who actually do that is kinda disturbing. 
[quote]hspder wrote:
tme wrote:
Maybe that’s why I like “Boston Legal” so much:
Actually – and seriously – today’s Boston Legal was a must-see for all of T-Nation: I believe they were the first show on TV to bring attention to the dangers of High Fructose Syrup that we’ve so often talked about here… Shirley Schmid’s speech was proof that there are Hollywood writers that can actually write intelligently about nutrition…
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It was definitely the good stuff. One of the best shows on TV right now.
[i]I’m such a big star, I blow solar flares out of my ass.
-Denny Crane.[/i]
[quote]ephrem wrote:
…spring has finally arrived, and see if you can order those goodies from any of these sites: Escort Holland VIP - Escort Service Holland (-:
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Ah, but can you also order Dutch graduate students over the internet?
If you can, I want in.
[quote]hspder wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.
He’s probably frantically going through books and websites trying to figure out what the heck I’m talking about.
He’ll eventually come back and say that he was too busy spending time with his family – without explaining why he felt the suddent urge to do that, since in the past few weeks he has had plenty of time to burn ranting towards and insulting the eViL liberals.
He’ll then proceed to provide us with a cop-out answer, with the depth that makes Paris Hilton look like a scholar.
Prove me wrong Headhunter, prove me wrong…
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I have absolutely no physics background; all of my higher science comes from the Discovery Channel or comics, but…
Don’t neutrinos have no mass? I thought there were millions of neutrinoes passing through us all the time.
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tme wrote:
Maybe that’s why I like “Boston Legal” so much:
hspder wrote:
Actually – and seriously – today’s Boston Legal was a must-see for all of T-Nation: I believe they were the first show on TV to bring attention to the dangers of High Fructose Syrup that we’ve so often talked about here… Shirley Schmid’s speech was proof that there are Hollywood writers that can actually write intelligently about nutrition…
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Seriously, Boston Legal is one of the best shows on TV. The writing is great, and you can’t beat “Denny Crane!”
[quote]
ephrem wrote:
…spring has finally arrived, and see if you can order those goodies from any of these sites: Escort Holland VIP - Escort Service Holland (-:
nephorm wrote:
Ah, but can you also order Dutch graduate students over the internet?
If you can, I want in.[/quote]
I don’t think it’s a dating site neph… =-)
As this is nominally a thread about gas prices, amongst the topics of particle physics and the importation of tall, leggy blond graduate students for assumedly lascivious purposes, I wonder how people think this may affect gas prices?
Pay no attention to those men with the guns!
Edna Fernandes provides my laugh for today after reading her coverage of Evo Morales’ latest move as President of Bolivia in the Times of London ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2161183,00.html ):
[i] President Evo Morales of Bolivia has ordered the military to seize 56 foreign-owned oil and gas fields in a nationalisation move that hit shares of companies operating in the Latin American country today.
Senor Morales called on the military to occupy the fields and gave warning he would throw out foreign companies who refused to recognise the nationalisation of the country?s oil and gas fields, which are the second largest reserves in the region after Venezuela.
The leftwing President, who came to power on a platform of re-nationalisation, warned of similar action in other sectors. "We are beginning by nationalising oil and gas. Tomorrow we will add mining, forestry and all natural resources ? what our ancestors fought for," he said in a May Day speech at the San Alberto gas field in southern Bolivia.
Foreign investors were unable to assess the full impact of the decision, as details of the nationalisation policy were not readily available. The President has given the companies 180 days to renegotiate contracts.
The nationalisation policy would effectively downgrade the role of foreign companies from owners of the assets to simply operators. The Spanish Government swiftly declared its "profound worry" about the nationalisation, as shares in the Spanish energy group Repsol YPF took a hit.
The Bolivian Embassy in London told Times Online the President would issue a further statement on the details of the nationalisation policy in the coming week and denied the move would undermine foreign investment in the country, as investors take fright.
"In the end, the companies will understand these new rules help Bolivia and make it more stable. They should not be scared," said Pablo Ossio, the Charge d?Affairs at the embassy.
Asked whether the Bolivian Government would compensate foreign companies who lose their assets, he said there would be an audit of foreign energy assets over the coming six months. "But I don?t think they?ll be compensated," he said.[/i]
UPDATE: The Financial Times reports on the international fallout. The Bolivian move has the greatest impact on… the socialst governments of Spain and Brazil ( Presidents to meet over gas crisis in Bolivia | Financial Times ):
[i] Spain on Tuesday warned Bolivia that nationalisation of its energy sector would have “consequences [for] the bilateral relationship”, a threat that could lead to the ending of debt relief.
The Spanish government said it was "deeply concerned" by the nationalisation law introduced by Evo Morales, Bolivia?s leftwing president, and complained about the ?way the changes were promulgated?.
Repsol YPF, the Spanish energy group, has invested more than $1bn in Bolivian gas production, which accounts for 18 per cent of the company?s total energy reserves and 11 per cent of production. Brazil's Petrobras is another big investor, and other international companies could be forced to write off their Bolivian gas reserves, analysts said....
Reacting angrily to Mr Morales? decision to seize control of gas fields using army troops and annul existing contracts, Antonio Brufau, Repsol's chairman, told Argentine radio: "We were told there would be time for negotiations, but obviously this was not the case."
In Brazil, which receives half of its natural gas from Bolivia, President Luiz In?cio Lula da Silva called an emergency meeting of his cabinet and Petrobras executives, amid fears that any supply interruptions could trigger an energy crisis in South America's largest economy. Mr da Silva intended to consult other South American leaders about how to respond to the "unfriendly" move, his spokesman said.
Mr Brufau said Repsol the new decree "sidestepped all industrial logic that ought to govern the relations between governments and companies".[/i]
[quote]hspder wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.
He’s probably frantically going through books and websites trying to figure out what the heck I’m talking about.
He’ll eventually come back and say that he was too busy spending time with his family – without explaining why he felt the suddent urge to do that, since in the past few weeks he has had plenty of time to burn ranting towards and insulting the eViL liberals.
He’ll then proceed to provide us with a cop-out answer, with the depth that makes Paris Hilton look like a scholar.
Prove me wrong Headhunter, prove me wrong…
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Um…maybe because it was night and most of us sleep at night. I really don’t want to imagine what that vermin Harris does at night.
I have morning classes now and will happily post my answers to your wonderful questions on by lunch break. While I do that, Hspder, please feel free to scan your 3 phds, blank out the name, do whatever. Or, maybe the profs will wonder why a janitor is asking to borrow their credentials, ‘for just a little while’?
BTW: Hspder, if you came on here and said you look like Arnold in his prime, you’d be laughed off of here, after everyone asked you for pictures. Why doesn’t the same standard of truth apply here?
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
hspder wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
This is simply absurd bullshit. Put a picture up of your 3 phd’s (though I imagine that can be faked) on here, and I’ll admit I’m wrong. Very few people on this planet have the ability, time, and discipline to do anything near that.
I’m curious… why does this bother you so much? Assuming arguendo that he does have 3 PhDs, it doesn’t make him automatically correct on these kinds of topics, any more than a PhD in political science makes one right in politics all of the time. It might mean that you shouldn’t dismiss his arguments out of hand, however.[/quote]
Careful Neph, your are being reasonable and rational. You know that’s not allowed on here.
[quote]hspder wrote:
ALDurr wrote:
Thought that this might help.
As I and other Economists have mentioned before, the debt, in absolute terms, is very not meaningful, much like it is not for individuals; what matters is the ratio between debt and either potential income (GDP) or true income (Government income ~= Taxes).
To use a concrete example, a guy that makes $200,000 a year owing $10,000 on his credit cards is VERY different from a guy that makes $30,000 a year owning $10,000 on his credit cards.
I’ve posted a chart on the debt-to-GDP ratio multiple times, and you’re more than welcome to build one on the debt-to-Income ratio (based on whitehouse.gov budget numbers).
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hspder, I only included that because people were talking about how much the debt has grown under this president and that president. I am not an economist, nor do I play one on TV. I am not trying to prove anyone’s point. I’m sure that a debt-income ratio chart will show a more accurate picture, but it would probably fall on deaf ears.
Besides, if I did build a chart like you suggested, someone will just claim that I slanted the numbers just to provided proof for some claim that they imagined that I am making and then they would go on some rant about how “liberal” I am and all kinds of other bullshit that is neither true, nor justified. No thanks, I rather let them live in their psycho fantasy world.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
hspder wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
This is simply absurd bullshit. Put a picture up of your 3 phd’s (though I imagine that can be faked) on here, and I’ll admit I’m wrong. Very few people on this planet have the ability, time, and discipline to do anything near that.
I’m curious… why does this bother you so much? Assuming arguendo that he does have 3 PhDs, it doesn’t make him automatically correct on these kinds of topics, any more than a PhD in political science makes one right in politics all of the time. It might mean that you shouldn’t dismiss his arguments out of hand, however.[/quote]
Because he’s a lib and full of shit. He also is an elitist, saying how he wouldn’t mind paying an extra buck or two a gallon, to subsidize mass transit. So, what about the people who would never use mass transit or who don’t make $125,000/year teaching at Stanford? He’s a typical limosine liberal who wishes he could turn our country into a version of Europe. True, he’s very bright, but he wants to impose his version of the ‘Good’ on this country and I don’t consider that good.
I have to go answer his dumbass questions now.
BTW: Nephorm, I respect you for not flaming me and for being a gentleman. That DOESN’T mean I want to take warm showers with you at 2 A.M. 
[quote]hspder wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
And, btw, you didn’t ask a question.
No? Let me be clearer this time:
What is the mass of a neutrino?
(I expect a one-paragraph answer to that one – if you really know anything about Physics, you know why)
Bonus question:
How would you explain Time Dilation to a high-school student, in just one short paragraph (four to five sentences), in a way they could “get it”?[/quote]
Here you go, Mr. Custodian.
We use Giancoli’s 5th edition. We rarely get to the missing mass problem (dark matter) because this discussion is waaaaay late in Chapter 33. Remember, these are high school kids, not students at Stanford. The honors class sometimes gets that far though. When we do, I use Einstein with a Lorentz Transformation, which gives the mass of the neutrino to be about 22eV. (You did mean rest mass?)
My kids do find ‘Time Dilation, Length Contraction’ fascinating. We let v get closer and closer to c to calculate mass in terms of rest mass. I explain to them that you’d only see this change if v got quite close, say, .98c.
Now, where’s the pics?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
hspder wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.
He’s probably frantically going through books and websites trying to figure out what the heck I’m talking about.
He’ll eventually come back and say that he was too busy spending time with his family – without explaining why he felt the suddent urge to do that, since in the past few weeks he has had plenty of time to burn ranting towards and insulting the eViL liberals.
He’ll then proceed to provide us with a cop-out answer, with the depth that makes Paris Hilton look like a scholar.
Prove me wrong Headhunter, prove me wrong…
Um…maybe because it was night and most of us sleep at night. I really don’t want to imagine what that vermin Harris does at night.
I have morning classes now and will happily post my answers to your wonderful questions on by lunch break. While I do that, Hspder, please feel free to scan your 3 phds, blank out the name, do whatever. Or, maybe the profs will wonder why a janitor is asking to borrow their credentials, ‘for just a little while’?
BTW: Hspder, if you came on here and said you look like Arnold in his prime, you’d be laughed off of here, after everyone asked you for pictures. Why doesn’t the same standard of truth apply here?
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“Vermin”.
Your students draw pictures of you blowing crippled dudes when you’re not looking. I bet they all ffucking haaaaaate you.
[quote]harris447 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
hspder wrote:
harris447 wrote:
Notice that dickless hasn’t answered yet.
He’s probably frantically going through books and websites trying to figure out what the heck I’m talking about.
He’ll eventually come back and say that he was too busy spending time with his family – without explaining why he felt the suddent urge to do that, since in the past few weeks he has had plenty of time to burn ranting towards and insulting the eViL liberals.
He’ll then proceed to provide us with a cop-out answer, with the depth that makes Paris Hilton look like a scholar.
Prove me wrong Headhunter, prove me wrong…
Um…maybe because it was night and most of us sleep at night. I really don’t want to imagine what that vermin Harris does at night.
I have morning classes now and will happily post my answers to your wonderful questions on by lunch break. While I do that, Hspder, please feel free to scan your 3 phds, blank out the name, do whatever. Or, maybe the profs will wonder why a janitor is asking to borrow their credentials, ‘for just a little while’?
BTW: Hspder, if you came on here and said you look like Arnold in his prime, you’d be laughed off of here, after everyone asked you for pictures. Why doesn’t the same standard of truth apply here?
“Vermin”.
Your students draw pictures of you blowing crippled dudes when you’re not looking. I bet they all ffucking haaaaaate you.[/quote]
Harris,
I apologize. That was uncalled for on my part.
HH
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
When we do, I use Einstein with a Lorentz Transformation, which gives the mass of the neutrino to be about 22eV. (You did mean rest mass?)[/quote]
… which is completely and absolutely wrong – out of date by about half a century. I was afraid of that, and I was right.
Here’s the bare minimum answer that would qualify you as a decent Physics teacher, an answer you can actually easily find on the Internet; the fact that you didn’t bother to actually do some research was fairly expected but still frightening. As I said before, all teachers must also be students:
There are three flavors of neutrinos, each with a slightly different mass.
We don’t know the exact masses of any of them, for several reasons I won’t go into.
We have a ballpark number, though: the heaviest neutrino must be at least 0.05 electron volts, but no more than 0.3 electron volts. Which is far less than what you said.
I could go into more detail, but I’m not going to bother. Do some research. You might not be specifically paid to do it (like I am), but it is your ethical obligation to provide your students with current science, so start working on that for a change.
(by the way, Harris, you mentioned that neutrinos have no mass – that was what a lot of scientists thought for quite a long time, but it has been disproved; they do have an extremely small mass and no charge, and hence countless numbers of them, emanating from the Sun, pass THROUGH the Earth and everything on it every instant.)
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
My kids do find ‘Time Dilation, Length Contraction’ fascinating. We let v get closer and closer to c to calculate mass in terms of rest mass. I explain to them that you’d only see this change if v got quite close, say, .98c.[/quote]
That is a cop-out answer, like I expected, and definitely not something I would consider worthy of a physics teacher. I’m pretty sure that anyone who read that and does not understand what Time Dilation is, and why it exists, still does not know. Which is, again, what I expected.
Well, I have made my point quite nicely and I won’t bother you again… You have my word. I just hope that what I’ve showed you above makes you think and focus on being better at your job, rather than spending so much time hating liberals. You need to first work on improving yourself, and only after that work on others.