Hi,
Right now i’m on TRT 250Mg/ wk and wondering that how much Tren E to add on TRT maybe like 50mg/ wk on top of TRT will be effective ? This amount of Tren E can be get more power to lift or effect anything ? Primarily to get out of fat via TRT phase .
250mg/wk exceeds TRT standards. You’re already on a mini cycle permanently. What other compounds have you tried before going straight to Tren E? I know many folks who run Tren Ace at 10mg/day with success but its slightly more potent than E mg for mg. If its your first go with Tren, Ace is better to try even though it requires more pinning. If you get harsh side effects it clears your system much faster if you need to stop.
Can you please clear up what you are trying to saying here? This makes 0 sense.
tren is not a beginner steroid and can have harsh cardiovascular and mental side effects. It should really be reserved for competitors prepping for a show, nit an average gym goer.
Assuming this is not Dr prescribed TRT at that dose?
Thank you for your comment.
Previously I was running a blast with Test 500 and Deca 250. Now my plan is to stay on TRT (not Dr prescribed) at 250 mg per week, and I’m just trying to understand whether adding Tren E would help control excess body fat and give a bit more strength and performance while lifting.
No steroids burn fat. Tren is good at partitioning nutrients but it’s really not worth the strain on the cardiovascular system. It should be reserved for very advanced users and competitors.
If you wanna lose fat you need to get diet/cardio/training in check.
You could also look into GLP drugs to help.
Why do you call it TRT?
why does no one seem to get this
Social media
I think it has to do with people seeing indviduals going on TRT and seeing body comp improvement. NOT factoring in these things.
Shown improvement in insulin sensitivity … not sure if its the increase test or just being more active due to improved energy levels. ( need to hit the oldest up on the science)
Increase in muscle mass which gives a slight post to the metabolism due to added caloric need to support the new tissue.
Like I mentioned before … just the quality and productivity of workouts improvement due to improved energy levels.
Thats just my uneducated opinion. Most just assume they will lean out because of the Testosterone alone and not factoring in the other variables.
You are correct here. When you have more muscle mass you will have increased metabolic activity. I think that is why people perceive burning fat and gaining muscle. The issue is they think that the drugs do this and is actually just our bodies normal processes.
They become correct if they mean that AAS increases muscle mass, and thus the additional muscle burns more calories.
Yes but the issue is people that are too fat I be using drugs think if they start taking steroids they will lose fat just through its use.
Secondary benefits are reaching… some steroids do directly promote lipolysis, but only a couple. Agree with @s.gentz. If you’re relatively lean you may noticeably lean up more from the increased mass, but many on here are borderline obese thinking it’s the solution. Hell, I would say that anabolics and gym motivation, recovery, etc would contribute more to the fat loss than just burning more calories from the muscle mass.
I have been giving this “too fat” to take AAS some thought relative to what I have seen the decades that I have been around people lifting weights.
It seems as if it might be the androgen binding site density that is the critical “x” in reaping the most benefit of using AAS. But to your point, I would guess that a person with high density of androgen binding sites would naturally be more lean than the average person and much more lean than a person with low density of androgen binding sites.
A person with much lower androgen binding site density can have loads of AAS flowing through their blood stream with no where to go. These people will likely look flabby, as in “too fat” to use AAS.
Now, not everyone falls in this category.
I knew quite a few heavier Powerlifters who likely took AAS, and got bigger and stronger. They all fell into the “too fat” category, who benefited from AAS.
100% agree. Unless you are a powerlifter or have a specific goals there is 0 reason for a person who is not already in decent shape to use gear.
I think social media is a huge driver in peoples warped sense of what AAS actually do. If i had a dollar for everytime I hear someone who is fat say they want to take gear to build muscle while losing fat I would be a lot closer to retirement than I am.
I think the term “recomp” as portrayed by social media is also an issue. People think that is the process described above where you burn fat and build muscle. A true recomp would be a muscled BB who was 10% and did a build and ended up at 12%. They would then use a “recomp period” as a cleanup to get back to the 10%.
I see so many say i’m gonna recomp from 25% to 12% and I need to use drugs to do it when in actuality they are just fat and they need to put the fork down and get training/diet/cardio in check. What people also don’t get is that drugs are a small part of the equation. Genetics, diet and training at 95%. No amount of drugs can overcome these three things.
I also think it warped what actual TRT is.
Internet TRT is anything below 300 mg.
What’s also common online are mid-aged influencers showing off their muscular bods and saying, “no TRT,” as if they had success because they’re not treating a medical condition. Meanwhile, they got the results they were supposed to get as eugonadal men. Then there are healthy, eugonadal men who want to get on TRT because they’re not functioning like 18 to 25 year olds. They’re “tired” (welcome to the club).
People in the 90s used to say, “I hopped on roids”.
testosterone replacement theraphy. Same test,smaller dosages than amount of test which evevates to steroids.
Agreed.
Anyone on legit, Dr. prescribed trt with quarterly blood draws would never consider adding tren and risking that prescription.
No one within any common sense at least.