I am with you. Over 200g and I am running close to overeating. Its interesting to watch people point out studies that fit their viewpoint and assume everything else is bro-science. I have seen multiple studies point out that really high protein on fat loss regimen results in higher loss of fat compared to muscle. I have also read studies claiming about 80g is all a healthy male needs. Seems like whatever you want to believe (at least in this debate) you can find a study for. I like protein, well shit, I like everything, but seem to respond to high protein lower carbs.
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So a vegetarian can get good results with what we know actually.
I was thinking to reduce protein for reduce my
consumption of meet, good meet is expansive and really the world start to change, we cant always just think about ourselves, maybe so much protein was a fucking propaganda of industry I don’t know. U also a lot of good think in the meat not only proteins, but I don’t think that human being before ago eat like that, eat so much like that, in prehistoric time ? Iam curious, did u know if we have some information about how much they eat before
I wilm try to eat only 80/90 g or proteins for 73 kilo and i will check if iam more weak or not
We need to try what is good or not for us, also the idea of take to faster weight i think is also bad, u dont need to lose fat if u growth slowny 1 kilo by month ~
I think this is true, but needs to be healthy isn’t the same as optimal or close to optimal for muscle growth.
I have looked at a few studies for muscle growth, and it seems that around the 1 gram per lb of lean mass (not body weight) is pretty consistent. IMO, if you are near that number say +/- 25% you probably won’t seem much difference.
I do feel if I were to eat 80 g of protein a day I would see worse results. Especially in a cut. Around 170 +/- 25% is pretty easy for me to stick to and live like a normalish human.
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This is the truth of it.
All I can say about this is from personal experience…i ate high protein and fat and low carbs and could not lose any weight, also my cholesterol was over 350…i was 220 to 225 lbs…i reduced my protein and fat and increased my carbs, my weight came down to 200 and my cholesterol is in the normal range
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I think you meant grams and not mg.
Yes it is it is the most expensive macro, but really isn’t that expensive for an average person eating a normal diet to get to .8g per lb of bodyweight. Even 150g of protein is only 2 normal servings of meat, a few cups of milk and then add in tag along proteins from carbohydrate sources and you’re pretty much right there at 150g. Most people that don’t even weight train get close to .8g per lb in a day without even tracking. I think everyone here is blowing out of proportion just how little food it takes to get to .8g, even for someone with more muscle than a normal person.
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80g is of course right around the RDI recommendation for the normal adult man. But, and a big but here is that the RDI handbook itself says that the 80g is only for a normal non-active adult. It says those engaged in physical activity will need more.
Agreed, my point was more to the fact that there are studies to support whatever viewpoint you like. I eat a higher protein diet, and when I cut I go even higher. I like those studies.
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Plant sourced protein is not expensive at all. For building muscle, the higher carbs of plant based protein is a value added bonus. I like to eat both plant and animal protein for more variety and lower cost. Not that I eat that much protein. I was happy with .5g/lb body weight, but .735g/lb is no big extra expense when plant proteins are included.
I’d say the cons of not getting enough protein outweigh the cons of getting too much, so I eat lots of protein, and use fats and carbs as strategic tools along the way.
Is that really so?
Can you summarize the article? It’s behind a paywall.
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That link didn’t work for me but this did:
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You know the second article you posted said this, right?
(2RDA = twice the recommended daily amount)
And the first one doesn’t necessarily condemn high protein in the presence of more intensive training and moderating carbs and fat.
stimulated+created = muscle grow . / it’s all run together in weight lifting/ my 2c
i know a lot of boys eating 400-500 g protein /day can’t lift even 100lbs on bench
p.s. proten is just part of the game ,but NOT NUMBER 1 factor
u kidding, 400g of protein Oo ?
150-200g of whey protein powders