Hi,
I was just wondering if there’s much research on how much different forms of AAS increase protein synthesis?
Jason Blaha recently claimed that a 500mg per week test cycle would roughly double your current rate of muscle gain.
As far as I’m aware, the most a natural athlete can gain is about 1/2 pound of muscle per week, which would suggest that on the above cycle, one could gain around 1 pound of LBM per week. But muscle gain faces diminishing returns, and thus the more experienced you are, the slower the rate of increase in LBM, with natural trainees with 3-4 years of training only expected to be able to gain around 1lb per month, if Alan Aragon is to be believed.
With this in mind, I find it hard to reconcile Jason’s claims with some of the reported figures people post regarding their own results from commensurate test cycles.
I appreciate initial gains are going to be largely comprised of water weight, but claims of gains of 10-15lbs post PCT on 12 week test cycles are not uncommon.
Is it likely that these claims are exaggerated or misunderstood (perhaps more fat gain than they realise)? Or has Jason Blaha underestimated the potential gains that come with AAS use?
You can’t put a definitive number this. Besides that, many people are using multiple compounds and larger amounts of Test. I think you have a reasonable question. There just isn’t an exact answer.
It is also hugely dependent on your body’s affinity for the compounds, diet, training, rest, and genetics. This is impossible to answer in a broad sense.
Yeah, I had feared that this question was probably near impossible to answer, but I had just been a bit surprised by how (relatively) little such an amount of test was expected to increase protein synthesis, given the reported gains from such cycles.
As you say, perhaps it’s more to do with different compounds, quantities, how one’s body responds etc.
that info could be accurate on beginners… 1/2lbs a week natural is impossible after a few years of training.
there are many amateur/pro bodybuilders who take shitloads of drugs just to gain a pound or two in a year…
also, one should never do the math on muscle gain that way… saying 1/2lbs a week being natural means 26lbs LBM a year, and 260lbs LBM in 10 years… that math is pretty dumb and could be accurate only for a few weeks of your life.
Agreed, Semigall! Sorry, I probably didn’t make myself very clear, but that’s the sort of thing I was referring to when I talked about diminishing returns. I was just confused as to how seemingly experienced bodybuilders (whose muscle gaining potential will have dropped so dramatically) could claim to be making gains of 10-15lbs when 500mg of test is only supposed to double your muscle building capacity.
[quote]DTBomb wrote:
Hi,
I was just wondering if there’s much research on how much different forms of AAS increase protein synthesis?
Jason Blaha recently claimed that a 500mg per week test cycle would roughly double your current rate of muscle gain.
As far as I’m aware, the most a natural athlete can gain is about 1/2 pound of muscle per week, which would suggest that on the above cycle, one could gain around 1 pound of LBM per week. But muscle gain faces diminishing returns, and thus the more experienced you are, the slower the rate of increase in LBM, with natural trainees with 3-4 years of training only expected to be able to gain around 1lb per month, if Alan Aragon is to be believed.
With this in mind, I find it hard to reconcile Jason’s claims with some of the reported figures people post regarding their own results from commensurate test cycles.
I appreciate initial gains are going to be largely comprised of water weight, but claims of gains of 10-15lbs post PCT on 12 week test cycles are not uncommon.
Is it likely that these claims are exaggerated or misunderstood (perhaps more fat gain than they realise)? Or has Jason Blaha underestimated the potential gains that come with AAS use?
Thanks[/quote]
If you took a die hard guy who took bodybuilding,nutrition and training extremely serious then he will see far greater results than someone of his equal who only puts in half ass workouts and a little thought into his nutrition!