How Much Do You Get to Keep?

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I am curious about something…

When you go off of a cycle on a short term/long term basis in terms of strength and size depending on what you take?

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I’m sorry, what?

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[quote]Contrl wrote:
I’m sorry, what?[/quote]

How much do you get to keep in terms of strength and muscle when you get off of a cycle, long term, short term? I have heard people say that you loose a lot of both but keep some of it.

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I’d be inclined to believe that depends on “how far out of equilibrium” you are. IE–if you’re 260 and ripped when you start, then you’ll end up losing more, because it takes more test to maintain that kind of mass in the first place, so the recovery process and resulting androgen deprivation takes a bigger toll. On the other hand, if you’re closer to a naturally sustainable weight, as most are, I think you wouldn’t lose much.

In fact, in general I believe Bill Roberts–it’s not usually muscle that goes, but the glycogen/water/swelling effects. So you feel like you’re losing pounds of muscle because you’re going down in weight and feel crappy, but it’s really mostly glycogen–all your muscle stays put if you’re training hard.

But that’s my opinion based on science, I’ve not used so I couldn’t tell you from exp.

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There are many differeent variables that play a part in getting the muscle in the first place and then trying to maintain it post cycle.
Here are a few: diet, training, length of cycle, pct. Some people may keep most of the weight they have gained and others will lose most.

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What compounds you is the #1 determening factor.

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[quote]Contrl wrote:
What compounds you is the #1 determening factor.[/quote]

So what kind of stuff makes you keep your gains?

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[quote]Contrl wrote:
What compounds you is the #1 determening factor.[/quote]

I think that is assuming the user knows how to run proper PCT.

You aren’t going to keep squat regardless of what compounds you use if you eat nothing but rice cakes and celery and skip training to watch Oprah everyday post cycle.

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[quote]firestanggt wrote:
Contrl wrote:
What compounds you is the #1 determening factor.

I think that is assuming the user knows how to run proper PCT.

You aren’t going to keep squat regardless of what compounds you use if you eat nothing but rice cakes and celery and skip training to watch Oprah everyday post cycle. [/quote]

What is PCT?

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[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:

What is PCT?
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Post Cycle Therapy
In short, It’s what you do after a cycle to bring your natural test levels back up.