[quote]supermick wrote:
Go heavy fool wrote:
Simple. Read the thread. Look at views, if your basing it primarily on numbers. More people agree that it is understood in America that when we say “Irish”, it means our heritage. The few of you guys out there in left field actually think we are referring to the state we were born on or the country we reside in.
For arguemnet sake… i always thought the loser was the first one to start insulting instead of just compromising. I already adhered to the fact that I am in no way an Irish citizen. I am an American. I agree with you there. But you havn’t acknowledged the many of us that have stated on this thread that we are referring to our heritage for the question at hand. Americans refer to their heritage. The only argument you do have is the watered down Irishness and 28th generation guys that think they are as Irish as Paddy Doyle. We arn’t saying that. Some of us are more Irish than others. What we are saying is that we are in fact Irish… the level of that is purely subjective. Like I said, base it on looks… you won’t be able to tell the difference between me and an Irishman born there, same with the amount I can drink. Same with the food that my parents fed me growing up. and all this is even subjective and is irrelavant(I was just making a point)… you don’t get to judge how Irish someone is. It is a subjective question with many points of view. You have no say in the matter Mick, its funny that an Englishman actually thought he had the right to calim who is Irish and who isn’t. I didn’t get read Dr. Seus… know what I’m sayin’? My bedtime stories were a little different.
Fool, your getting much better wih your answers, ill give you that…
However this thread is not just open to Americans so i felt i should give my P.O.V. and you still have not convinced me of your right to claim Irishness. I still feel that the romanitic ideals and imagery is just as much to blame for your clutching at heritage than actual birthright, after all you claim some German and Scot in their too but deny these in favour of Irishness. Or are you Scottish too? And German? [/quote]
Yes I’m all that… but this was an Irish thread. I didn’t feel the need to argue exactly how German and Scottish I was. I just wanted to say that I have Irish heritage along with all the other posters that have relatives in or from there.
Yep, Mick I’m American only because I was born and reside here… but with European heritage. But ask me where my relatives were born and raised including the ones I grew up with… and I will answer Germany, Scotland, and Ireland. I don’t claim to be a citizen or a native of any of the three… other than thats my heritage. So when I say I’m Irish, all I am saying is that is what is in the DNA, it came from Ireland. When I say I’m American, it simply means I was either born here or a citizen. We all know there is no specific American heritage other than the forementioned Native Indians. The true Americans are the “Native American Indians”
… to identify which Americans we are, because there are so many “types”, we specificly state our heritage as a reference point. Otherwise you would just assume I am a “native indian”. This is how you know you’re talking to a guy with Irish roots, not Japanese. America has to use this descripitory system due to the multi racial culture. They have slimmed us up and bunched us even into colors over here. We are now, black, white, brown, yellow, red, orange, blue, purple, indigo, violet, and candystriped. It’s rediculous. Then the label society decided to be politicly correct and add in Negro, Latino, Caucasian, Asian… etc. That wasn’t good-enough. Now we are African-American, Asian-American, Mexican-American and so forth. I think we like to just use the country of our ancestors for much easier descripitory purposes. If you ask for an American girl for your house call/escort, you never know what you’re gonna get Mick. You might want to be more specific. You might want to say an English American girl when you’re over here… otherwise you could end up with a chic from some country that you arnt so fond of, say India for instance. No dissrespect to Indian women, but I’m sure they’re a turnoff or turnon for somebody.
We like to be specific over here Mick. Its a clusterfuck of a nation. We got more different heritages over here than we got illegal aliens.
I think maybe Canada or even Australia would have a similiar understanding of the differentiating process of who’s who… to a much lessor degree though.
This is the land of the Heinz 57 varieties. Most Americans are alot of different heriditary mixes… myself included, I’m 3 myself. We are taking the entire world and gonna breed it all out until we all look like sexy ass Phillipino dancers or Samoan style football players. In a thousand years give or take, if we all do enough fucking, we are all gonna look like “The Rock” AKA “Dwayne Johnson”.
