[quote]John Mclane wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]John Mclane wrote:
But I thought as long as you take Clomid/Aromasin after HCG you will be ok?[/quote]
well, this is part of why i’m not really 100% sold on HCG.
if you time everything right, you should be good…
basically, as long as you use a low dose of HCG on cycle, and stop prior to PCT (at least a week prior), then it should help. but if you stop it too late, then PCT won’t be as effective, because you will already have high test levels from the HCG, even though the HPTA isn’t actually signaling yet.
in looking back at your cycle, i see these things as possible issues:
-armitage-what is that, exactly?
-clomid for 3 weeks is kinda short for PCT. i also don’t like clomid, and it has been shown to make people less repsonsive to GnRH, which is the oppsite of what we want in PCT.
-2500 iu twice a week for 2 weeks is a really high dose for HCG… i think here is when one needs to look at what guys on TRT use, and they’re more along the lines of 250-500 IU a couple times a week.
-to be honest, i really don’t think one would need HCG after your cycle, as it didn’t seem that long, or loaded up with compounds that give people lots of problems.
anyway, i don’t know where you’re at, time-wise, from PCT, but you could try Nolvadex (20 mg/day) with Aromasin (25 mg/day) and see how you feel with that.[/quote]
Armitage was a test booster from JW Supplements in the UK. I did HCG after my last shot of Prima, then started Clomid/Armitage/DAA. Current update - I took HCG again at 2500IU twice a week for two weeks and feel MUCH better…hornier, getting morning wood, putting muscle/weight back on after my cut…I know you don’t like it but I’m 4 days into Clomid - 50mg p/day for 3 weeks. Your thoughts??
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well, i’m glad you’re feeling better.
IMO, one of the biggest problems with using HCG, is you don’t really know if your HPTA is recovered. since it’s forcing your testes to produce test, the clomid isn’t gonna do much for you right now. you have to wait for the HCG to clear out to actually get your HPTA to start going again. and, since you used HCG, your test levels are prolly high right now, so your HPTA has no reason to recover. and yeah, i don’t like clomid… it makes your body less responsive to GnRH (also referred to as LHRH), which makes your HPTA less likely to recover.
you could keep taking the clomid and hope your HPTA kicks in, i guess…
personally, this is why i’m not a big fan of HCG (except in longer cycles). in almost all instances, i recommend 20 mg/day of Nolvadex and 25 mg/day of Aromasin for PCT… i do like your use of DAA, though. i think a lot of folks would improve their PCT by adding that in for a couple weeks…