I notice that more men are growing up without male role models in their life. Now that parents are having to work more, they have less time for their kids in their developmental years. This means children are being raised by the government institutions which are just parents who feed kids their own ideologies.
There are very few male teachers who are able to teach young mean anything and boys are spending their whole lives being raised by women, either at home or at school.
How important is it to have a mentor or a male role model as a man if your father didnt teach you anything, and where can a man find a role model?
Most of what i learned about manhood came from the internet. I guarantee this next generation will be the same learning everything they know from the internet because their parents failed them.
My father was hard as nails, and on the outside looking in youād think miserable. But for friends and family he would drop everything at a moments notice to help. He worked a ton so my mother could be home with my sister and I. For a few years 2 full time jobs.
We didnāt talk about our feelings or hug each other. He taught me how to act like a man through example. How to put aside your own needs for the people you care about. I think this is a very important lesson that many young men miss.
I also had a bunch of uncles, some good role models and some not so much. A few were close and I learned a lot from them as well.
Does everyone need a father or male mentor to be a successful adapted adult? No. But it definitely helps. A woman canāt show you how to be a man.
I still dont understand your questioning, but ill try to answer it the best way possible. My father was around, but wasnāt there. A lot of the basics i learned like cooking, laundry, ironing, taking out the trash, ect. Came from my grandmother. I wouldnt say my father taught me anything, because he didnt.
I guess its possible to find a male role model at work if its some blue collared salary job. White collar or hourly pay job? Doubt it. Im sure there are many exceptions that i havent seen or heard about.
Thatās exactly what Iām saying- can someone be considered āpresentā if theyāre around but never actually do anything substantial with you?
Iād wager from your response that youād say no. And Iād wager from Alrightmiami19cās response that he feels his father taught him plenty, in spite of the fact that it sounds like his father was around but not āpresentā.
And thatās whatās so complicated about this stuff.
I see what youre saying. He moved away while i was young and i lived with my grandparents for the most part. I probably could have looked up to my grandfather more, but his wife wore the pants in the household. It hurt to watch.
Both actually. I learned car stuff from ChrisFix. I learned about women from comedians and the men spaces on YouTube. I learned a lot about life, purpose, ambition, how people act and why they do from people like Carl Jung, Jordan Peterson, ect. I learned a lot about politics watching multiple sources. Things like taxes and bills i had to learn on my own. Opening my own bank account, credit card ect. Was through just doing it.
Fair point. I understand this is what wisom is and that its supposed to be passed down to the youth. I guess the biggest take away is to learn a lot so that i CAN teach my kids more than what i knew at their age.
For young men to develop as good husbands and fathers, āmentoringā is less important than the father modeling what a good husband and father does. My dad had to work 14 hours or more per day, 6 days a week, and sometimes 7. My mother was a school teacher, so she was home the same hours I was at home. When in elementary school I road to and from school with her.
My dad sacrificed a fun life (hanging out with his friends, etc) to be a dedicated provider for his household. Actions speak many times louder than instructions. My dad had little to no, what many people call quality time, to spend with me. He wasnāt handy with his hands. But he lived a great work ethic. He seemed to never miss work. I canāt recall him ever being too sick to go to work.
Did I need a āmentor?ā I really never felt I missed out not having one. I had a great role model of the perfect husband and father.
What do you think might have been lost in translation throughout the generations? The work ethic of the people that first came to the states to build their lives were great. It slowly dwindled down over time even during the Boomer generation. Then massively during the millennial generation and now gen z. Everyone has given up and life is only going to get harder and worse.
Is it over?
What has changed work ethic?
What can be done to reverse whats been done?
We can see that the new generation is starting to be more conservative because the liberalism that impacted the western world caused softer men. Though there is speculation that lower test levels are affecting men even more now than ever before. Maybe lower test correlates with ideologies and work ethics more than whats talked about.
I taught my boyfriend, how to use a chain saw, fix small motorsā¦ Tools, we now his and her tools, because it is more fun that way.
My older brother is the most useless man know to men.
He has to call me to fix a leaking faucet.
Yet, we grown up in the same house with the same parents.
I feel like weāve just been domesticated. Weāre soft, lazy and weak compared to our ancestors. Broad generalization of course. If you threw your dog out into the woods, could it survive?
Iāve always felt like a shadow of my father in this regard.
