How Hollywood Thinks We Live

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[quote]AngryVader wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Otep wrote:

I did not see Babel.

Crash should have gone on the list though. Good point.

Babel was a hoot - not because it is good, but because the director’s own ethnocentrism could not have been more apparent. Everyone American and white in the movie is portrayed in some sort of absurd caricature and the Mexicans are noble victims and teach the spoiled rich white people a thing or two about what it means to be truly human and form normal relationships - kind of like other movies you and I have mentioned on the thread. Looking at some of the director’s other movies:

I’m starting to notice a pattern.

Yeah, the little middle eastern boy jacking off to his sister and shooting at a bus was portrayed in such a positive light. Same for the mute japanese school girl getting drunk and throwing herself at random guys.

God that movie sucked ass.

Agreed. That movie was garbage. I think the fact that movie was nominated for Best Picture is better example of Hollywood being out of touch. Well, the Academy anyway. Apparently, they can’t even identify a bad movie when they see one anymore.[/quote]

Could they ever?

The Piano? Yeah, let me cue that for rental really quick.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
AngryVader wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Otep wrote:

I did not see Babel.

Crash should have gone on the list though. Good point.

Babel was a hoot - not because it is good, but because the director’s own ethnocentrism could not have been more apparent. Everyone American and white in the movie is portrayed in some sort of absurd caricature and the Mexicans are noble victims and teach the spoiled rich white people a thing or two about what it means to be truly human and form normal relationships - kind of like other movies you and I have mentioned on the thread. Looking at some of the director’s other movies:

I’m starting to notice a pattern.

Yeah, the little middle eastern boy jacking off to his sister and shooting at a bus was portrayed in such a positive light. Same for the mute japanese school girl getting drunk and throwing herself at random guys.

God that movie sucked ass.

Agreed. That movie was garbage. I think the fact that movie was nominated for Best Picture is better example of Hollywood being out of touch. Well, the Academy anyway. Apparently, they can’t even identify a bad movie when they see one anymore.

Could they ever?

The Piano? Yeah, let me cue that for rental really quick.[/quote]

Good point. I’ll still never forgive them for picking Titanic over LA Confidential.

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I think the opposite is true as well. It gets old turning on movies that show these “real people” driving around in Range Rovers, pulling up to mansions, and making 6-figures. And they’re like 22 years old.

I don’t remember what the movie was called, but I saw a preview for it that made a few of us in the theater say “oh, come on.” The plot was a couple of high-maintenance girls set their wedding date for the same day and spend the whole movie in a cat fight over who gets the biggest church, best cake, and the most guests. Of course money is no object!

Whether portraying the general public as overly poor, or overly rich, Hollywood usually misses the mark. I just wish they’d stop thinking we care about who they are voting for!

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[quote]ProwlCat wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:

ProwlCat, I appreciate your support, but really it’s not necessary. I love what I do and am grateful to be able to do it. I don’t consider it a sacrifice or a service.

You missed my point entirely, which was that people don’t typically talk in the numeric jargon or billing code of their professions. That I’m involved in social work was really secondary. When someone from our billing department asks me what my three o’clock was yesterday I might answer “a 104,” but when people ask me what I do at work I don’t say “mostly 104s and 107s, occasionally a 153.” No. I would say “mostly individual and family therapy, occasionally group therapy.” Medicaid is especially important to me, but I still don’t speak its code unless I’m speaking to people as immersed in it as I am. We all have different jobs. You get paid to know your codes, I get paid to know mine. Professor X is a dentist. If I ever talk about teeth to him, I hope he’ll use words like “incisor” or “wisdom teeth” rather than calling them by their numbers.

I think you’ve fallen into the same trap you did with the movies. You’re viewing something from a very narrow perspective and making the assumption that others should see what you do and are somehow at fault if they don’t.

I didn’t miss your point. You asked me to explain myself (relative my reaction to ‘lostinthought’), I tried to do that. [/quote]

You did explain yourself. And then I questioned your premise, which was that an informed, competent social worker is familiar with policy code. After which I questioned whether your view tends to be pretty narrow.

I’m not (and wasn’t) attacking you. Just pointing out that we all have different jobs. My job is to help adolescents who confide that they’re hearing voices or who need help escaping destructive behavioral patterns, Lostinthought’s job is (I imagine) to assess danger and offer supportive supervision to families pulling it together, and yours is to help us both by knowing policy details and pushing for the tools we all need to do what we do.

Same thing I said about the movies. Depends what you’re watching what you’ll see. That’s all.

Professor X, you didn’t recognize an asshole, you baited him into becoming one.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

Professor X, you didn’t recognize an asshole, you baited him into becoming one.

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LOL!! That’s like blaming the alcohol because you beat your wife.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
ProwlCat wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:

ProwlCat, I appreciate your support, but really it’s not necessary. I love what I do and am grateful to be able to do it. I don’t consider it a sacrifice or a service.

You missed my point entirely, which was that people don’t typically talk in the numeric jargon or billing code of their professions. That I’m involved in social work was really secondary. When someone from our billing department asks me what my three o’clock was yesterday I might answer “a 104,” but when people ask me what I do at work I don’t say “mostly 104s and 107s, occasionally a 153.” No. I would say “mostly individual and family therapy, occasionally group therapy.” Medicaid is especially important to me, but I still don’t speak its code unless I’m speaking to people as immersed in it as I am. We all have different jobs. You get paid to know your codes, I get paid to know mine. Professor X is a dentist. If I ever talk about teeth to him, I hope he’ll use words like “incisor” or “wisdom teeth” rather than calling them by their numbers.

I think you’ve fallen into the same trap you did with the movies. You’re viewing something from a very narrow perspective and making the assumption that others should see what you do and are somehow at fault if they don’t.

I didn’t miss your point. You asked me to explain myself (relative my reaction to ‘lostinthought’), I tried to do that.

You did explain yourself. And then I questioned your premise, which was that an informed, competent social worker is familiar with policy code. After which I questioned whether your view tends to be pretty narrow.

I’m not (and wasn’t) attacking you. Just pointing out that we all have different jobs. My job is to help adolescents who confide that they’re hearing voices or who need help escaping destructive behavioral patterns, Lostinthought’s job is (I imagine) to assess danger and offer supportive supervision to families pulling it together, and yours is to help us both by knowing policy details and pushing for the tools we all need to do what we do.

Same thing I said about the movies. Depends what you’re watching what you’ll see. That’s all.

Professor X, you didn’t recognize an asshole, you baited him into becoming one.

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Understood. Thanks for the explanation. If I’m honest, I do have a fairly narrow view of certain things. It helps to get pulled out of my box from time to time.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:

Professor X, you didn’t recognize an asshole, you baited him into becoming one.

LOL!! That’s like blaming the alcohol because you beat your wife.[/quote]

I have to say that your sanctimony and conviction of your own perfection is entertaining as hell.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:

Professor X, you didn’t recognize an asshole, you baited him into becoming one.

LOL!! That’s like blaming the alcohol because you beat your wife.[/quote]

Ha! No, it’s more like mistaking an ugly girl for a pretty one while drunk. It might have happened sober, but probably not.

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[quote]aussie486 wrote:
lostinthought wrote:

But to respond to OP dick, I’ve been a social worker for 12 years so I think I’m doing just fine. I work in child protection, not assistance as you said you did. So you don’t know anything about what I do. But that really has nothing to do with the topic, or again, with why you’re upset, other than you just being an asshole who can’t spell and type correctly.

Good to see u posting again lostinthought, u work in a really difficult job, all the best for the future.
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Thanks man. Thanks a bunch!

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Sounds like some people here have a pretty harsh definition of slob too. For a showing some of the things said are bad yea, and maybe I’m reading into it too much, but some of you come off like not having a spotless military inspection ready house is akin to living in filth. I grew up in a house with 11 people living in it(hey I didn’t choose for my parents to have a ton of kids or my sister to have some of her own while still residing there), it would have been literally impossible to maintain a level of order that some of you seem to think is mandatory for not being “embarrassing.”

Again, it might just be that I read too much into some of the comments, I do understand that when selling a house(which I recently helped my grandmother do) you should have things at their best condition possible.

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[quote]ProwlCat wrote:

Understood. Thanks for the explanation. If I’m honest, I do have a fairly narrow view of certain things. It helps to get pulled out of my box from time to time. [/quote]

And yet you started a thread complaining about the narrow views of others?

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[quote]Christine wrote:
ProwlCat wrote:

Understood. Thanks for the explanation. If I’m honest, I do have a fairly narrow view of certain things. It helps to get pulled out of my box from time to time.

And yet you started a thread complaining about the narrow views of others?
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