My limited knowledge of vaccines is that they don’t really work if people don’t “join others” in taking them.
I have heard the opposite but who knows really anymore. I had the understanding that those who were vaccinated no longer had to worry about that particular strain of “x virus”. If that is true, then why does a person that’s vaccinated care about what others do. It shouldn’t affect them.
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My uncle, my Mom’s baby brother did not get one voluntarily. He skipped his appointments and lied to his sister and his daughters about getting the jab.
He was a merchant mariner, the cool uncle everyone wish they had growing up. He taught me and my brother how to squat and deadlift properly almost 25 years ago and constantly regaled us with crazy stories (getting stabbed by a deranged Filipino hooker, for example) only sailors have. He might have been a less than stellar husband in all of his failed marriages but he was an affectionate father and grandfather and the archetypal “character” everyone befriends.
Deep down I fucking knew he wasn’t going to get a jab. I’ve seen his Facebook posts about PCR test scams, the casedemic, aborted fetuses and supposedly normal life in Sweden. We called him up to ask him about the vaccine. “Don’t worry, I got an appointment”, he said. He never said he’ll go, though.
Anti vaxxers are supposed to be mentally unstable stay-at-home moms with a collection of healing crystals who rant about aluminum content in vaccines, not your relatives. Not your cool uncle.
We buried him earlier today in a welded casket. He succumbed in less than a week from what is informally called the UK variant. He was sixty one.
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Don’t bullshit a bullshitter there Chief!
We all know you get yours from The Ingram Angle!
Okay. You’re kind of in your own little world there. Again it’s mildly amusing but this will be the last response to you regarding this topic. You’re clearly just trolling and that’s fine. I just don’t have time for it anymore. Happy trolling though and I hope you at least got something out of it.
All the best,
Tim
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I’m truly sorry to hear that. Sounds like one he’ll of a guy, and a flag bearer for the crazy uncles club, which I am a member of.
My condolences.
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Ok,
So as mask mandates are being lifted nationwide as we speak, and vaccines are being given and taken through peoples own free will-
You’re warning of government power grabs and mandatory infliction of electronically active wizard juice.
And I’m in my own little world.
Am I hearing you right?
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I’ll put it this way:
I hold in a fart when I’m in a elevator. If I don’t, people aren’t going to afford me the courtesy of not doing things like holding their noses and/or starring at me. It’s basic social etiquette unless you need to fart really bad.
Now, let’s assume there were no mask mandates. This is a worldwide pandemic. People are naturally scared. It’s also a contagious virus that can be spread through the air. An asymptomatic person may spread it to someone who will develop symptoms. It’s a little worse than a fart in an elevator and some farts are waay harder to hold back than wearing a mask. 
A reduced R0 lessons the chance of the virus spreading exponentially. Anything above 1 and it can potentially blow up and then lockdowns and all the crap that comes with them would have to start all over again.
When you do the math, wouldn’t you at least consider it part of your civic duty to wear a mask even if it provided a 10% efficacy rate?
With regards to vaccination, the same concept applies but, of course, there are valid health concerns that make this a little more complicated. I can understand that. We rejected the AstraZeneca one for Pfizer because of the purported clotting issues even though we could have gotten it earlier. This can be a whole new other topic altogether.
However, so far, I do not know of even any authoritarian country requiring mandatory vaccination for it’s population with the exception of certain people like those working in the public sectors.
The US has 8 times the vaccination rate of CHINA.
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I do see where you are coming from dt79.