How Has Covid Affected You?

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From what I’ve been told, they felt that way after being told to leave. I don’t know I’m what manner they were told to leave either. This all happened over the course of maybe something just shy of two weeks. I’m also not sure who else they talk to outside of work, but I’m guessing someone’s telling them what others are saying. I’m also under the assumption that whichever manager messed up, also was conversing with another employee and just started gossiping.

That’s the last perspective I’m willing to adopt at this moment. Regardless of the other possible options, I’m still not at liberty to rationalize their actions because I’m not them. Everyone else at my job already doesn’t trust them.

Obviously there’s nothing wrong with that. There’s everything wrong with whichever manager gossiping about it to other employees.

They don’t. Plain and simple. People suffer the consequences if enough people muster up the courage to say something.

It’s not ostracizing to say go home, it’s ostracizing to slowly spread the notion that everyone should be turned against another individual, all because someone decided to gossip.

Which is what I meant when I said this:

And since I really don’t know all the intricacies of this situation, again, I’m focusing on the individuals who are sick. Eventually they’re going to return to work, and everyone’s just gonna be looking at them differently now, and because management is doing a horrible job at controlling the situation.

That’s what I’m trying to say.

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Patience my lady.

There are millions of reasons and just as many gallons of blood behind workplace safety.

Take it from someone who has been dressed down about safety by the guy who smashed him with a crane.

I should clarify:

I see nothing wrong with carrying about your fellow co-workers.

I do, however, take exception with people who put others at risk or harm them–inadvertently or not, out of self interest.

If their paycheck is worth my life, then I’m ggoing to have a serious problem and at minimum some serious words directly with them.

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I understand.

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It’s great that they have people like yourself to turn to.

I actually wrote out several long messages and replies to this and decided better on sending any of them. I don’t know enough of the situation but I know you enough to trust your judgement on these things, you’ve always come across as a decent, positive person.

My reminder to myself in these stressful situations has been that no-one is having a good time of this. This isn’t fun for anyone, and my job is to try and see the unpleasantness and negative emotions for what they are: just a manifestation of stress.

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Yes, I understand from where I’ve been furloughed. Our manager informed us someone was tested, and the “gossipers” investigated quickly. Now this person is treated as ground zero.

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If you’re sick, call out sick. No one needs to know what your illness is.

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Some companies will treat CoVid-19 absences in a different way to other absences, so yes they should know. In the company I work for, we pay full contracted hours for anyone self isolating and expect them to isolate for a minimum of 7 days, longer if they still exhibit any symptoms. We don’t want anyone returning to work because they feel well enough to work, we want them to return when they are no longer symptomatic and a potential risk to other.

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I’m currently working and have been since this whole COVID-19 disaster began because I’m considered an essential employee. My girlfriend was supposed to start a new job on 3/26, in a pretty high up HR position, at a local company. However, they furloughed all of their workers, and thus, all she is able to do right now is collect unemployment until they finally onboard her. If unemployment only lasts 26 weeks in NYS, and the economy continues to remain closed, does anybody have any insight? Will they lengthen the unemployment guidelines? She’s becoming really stressed out.

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I don’t think that even the people who make that decision know from this far out. It has only just reached the point of number of cases not growing exponentially and daily death toll flattening out.

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My brother in Boston just tested positive. My guess is his wife and kids have it as well. He’s 42 with severe asthma and various other conditions, so he’s probably at an elevated risk compared to most people our age. He caught it at work, where I couldn’t understand why he was even needing to be on-site for what he did.

Too late to work from home now. The next few weeks will be a rocky ride for the family.

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I’m sorry to hear that.

In Israel, they’d put everyone on HCQ, Zinc, and vitamin C (like a lot 5000mg, spread out), plus a ton of water/pedialyte/Poweraide, etc. For him, it would be injection Vitamin C plus Z pack.

The silly political stuff about HCQ that is in the USA doesn’t exist in Israel.

The current thinking (according to my wife, who is basically sitting in the hospital and doing very little) is that this is not a lung disease, per se, but rather a hemoglobin disease. This is why the pneumonia presents itself on both sides, which is very odd. The virus attacks the blood cells, which does two things: (1) releases iron out into the tissues, causing massive oxidation (hence the vitamin C) and (2) starves the tissues of usable oxygen.

It’s also why HCQ is working – it somehow interrupts the damage to the hemoglobin – similar to how it works with malaria. HCQ is also a powerful anti-inflammatory.

Anyway, they think the treatment works best early on, before people start having pneumonia.

Also, respirators are being used incorrectly. It’s all about max oxygen, not pressure.

Not sure how you can use the information, other than to pressure doctors into the treatment. Boston is so political, I’m afraid they’re scared to use a treatment simply because Trump said it was a good idea.

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I’ve got multiple friends from childhood that are pretty deeply involved in either the medical field or biology, and they talk about this as well. #orangemanbad politics may be killing a lot of people here (and that comes from someone that absolutely does not worship the current president or administration).

@twojarslave - hoping for the best for your brother and your family.

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Oh no! I wish him all the best.

How’s the family holding up? I can’t even imagine what your sister and law, his kids and your parents must be going through.

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That just sucks. Fwiw, I’m pulling for all of you/them, hoping for a speedy and uneventful recovery.

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Here is a bit more technical discussion from someone who actually knows what they are talking about (instead of me).

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This:

Was my first thought on the matter. Which is the cart, which is the horse.

Interesting bit about the nitrous oxide, don’t know if it’s related, but when I was sick in February I couldn’t wait to get my daily dose of isosorbide mononitrate. Not in a specific, stopping angina (which it does not do) way, but in a very over all, a couple hours later no longer felt like death way.

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Orangemans top medical advisor is the one saying not to use HCQ. You think Fauci is making these statements to intentionally harm trump politically?

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I think that has to do with professional responsibility as a very public health official.

There are some things the pros just can’t say unless or until it becomes an agreed upon/approved thing, even if/whether or not they believe it.

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Wow, way to make it political. And inaccurate. Fauci specific statement is:

DR. FAUCI: No, there really isn’t that much of a difference in many respects with what we’re saying. The President feels optimistic about something — his feeling about it. What I’m saying is that it might — it might be effective. I’m not saying that it isn’t. It might be effective. But as a scientist, as we’re getting it out there, we need to do it in a way as — while we are making it available for people who might want the hope that it might work, you’re also collecting data that will ultimately show that it is truly effective and safe under the conditions of COVID-19. So there really isn’t difference. It’s just a question of how one feels about it.

Dr. Fauci also goes on to say that, if infected, he would take HCQ, (but he rambles on for about 20 minutes before getting there, so I didn’t post it)

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Now, since you are apparently a person who would claim the sky is green if Trump said it was blue, I encourage you to not take HCQ if infected, because you would be unable to live with yourself if Trump’s deduction (based on the works of doctors from France, South Korea, and India) turns out correct.

I think a lot of people would rather people die than Trump happen to be correct. It’s insane.

I’d also note that the media, in general, and the WHO, in particular, is owned, lock, stock, and barrel by Big Pharma. And Big Pharma has zero interest in a 75 year old, widely-prescribed, 100% generic drug, being effective. Zero money to be made there.

What ever happened to the good-old-fashioned liberal distrust of giant corporations and shadowy government agencies that I like?

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Apple and Whole Foods pulled an Eiffel Tower on that whole concept.

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