[quote]LoRez wrote:
But there’s something else you seem to be implying, that there are these fixed paths, fixed tracts out there to accomplish things. That working hard at things that suck is somehow better than being creative and adaptable and forging your own path.[/quote]
Not at all. I’m just saying that if your job requires you to have a college degree, then you need a college degree.
It doesn’t matter if you disagree, because the people who you want to get hired by want you to have a degree.
Now, you can definitely go back and work to change the system once you’re in a position of power, but no one is going to care what one student says when there are tens of thousands out there who can replace you. You need to gain some credence/power/w.e. you want to put it first before you can get people to listen to you.
The whole college thing is merely an example. The overall point I just wanted to make is that you need to try hard, regardless, of whether you like what you’re doing or not.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
People who do the hard work and just suck it up… will never be the same people who actually change things for the better. Better in the absolute sense. Better for the company’s bottom line. Those may or may not be the same.
The mindset you seem to be encouraging is the one that leads to stagnation and death.[/quote]
… I’m just saying that you need to try hard regardless of whether you enjoy what you’re doing or not.
I’m not arguing against creativity or inventiveness. I don’t even know where you got that from.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
If you do 4 years at a university, you need to make sure you will have a high paying job when you graduate. I went 5 years at a state school and studied Electrical Engineering. I lived on FAFSA loans during that time because my parents made too much for me to get assistance, but not enough to help me with school. The ONLY reason I am able to pay my loans is because I got a high paying job right out of school. If you are doing something other than engineering or similar, 2 years at a community college is vital unless you want to be in debt the rest of your life.
Also, there are tons and tons of scholarships available that you need to be applying for right now if you want free money to go to school. There are websites with scholarships listed and most require a short essay on a certain topic. Most people don’t apply for these so many are easy to get. That is my one regret of going to college and not applying for more scholarships. It will save you tens of thousands of dollars later. [/quote]
Very true. Not sure if the OP works, but some jobs offer scholarships to students as well as money to help pay for college.
Im in my last year of community college, (3rd cause of extra math) and it was the best choice I ever made. Long story short I’m going to a state school next year and will be studying something completely different. Save your money, go to community college for 2 years. Find out what you really want in life then go to a state school. My friends are all paying 50,0000 a year for school. Actually their mommy and daddy are paying their massive student loans… Long story short college is expensive, but manageable if you are practical about it.
Fortunately, I got lots of grants for economic need and got an out of state tuition scholarship and a good grades scholarship. The expensive part can be paying for living on campus if your traditional or pay for your own room and board.
I feel sorry for some of you guys. I’m in Manitoba, take 80% course load, typically 4 classes with 2 labs has been pretty standard, and it’s only about $4000/year for me.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I feel sorry for some of you guys. I’m in Manitoba, take 80% course load, typically 4 classes with 2 labs has been pretty standard, and it’s only about $4000/year for me.[/quote]
It wasn’t near as bad as many people are making it out to be for me either, and I’m in the US. Most of the mistakes I made were because of my stupidity, not the actual expenses.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I feel sorry for some of you guys. I’m in Manitoba, take 80% course load, typically 4 classes with 2 labs has been pretty standard, and it’s only about $4000/year for me.[/quote]
It wasn’t near as bad as many people are making it out to be for me either, and I’m in the US. Most of the mistakes I made were because of my stupidity, not the actual expenses.[/quote]
Are you involved in biochemistry? I seem to recall you mentioning a science, but I don’t remember which one.
My degree is a BSc, major in biotechnology, but at closer inspection meets the requirement for a triple minor in microbiology, biology, chemistry, and I’m doing an official minor in human nutrition and metabolism.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I feel sorry for some of you guys. I’m in Manitoba, take 80% course load, typically 4 classes with 2 labs has been pretty standard, and it’s only about $4000/year for me.[/quote]
It wasn’t near as bad as many people are making it out to be for me either, and I’m in the US. Most of the mistakes I made were because of my stupidity, not the actual expenses.[/quote]
Same here.
A distinction should of probably been made between state and private colleges. My wife and I both have a B.S. in accounting. Her’s cost about $50K more…