Age: 22
Height: 6’1
Weight: 88-89Kg
Training: 4 years (this is just lifting, I have been involved in various competative sports through my entire time at high school and have been training since I left in 2005)
Dead Lift: 230kg
Bench: 130kg
Squat: 200Kg
Overhead: 100Kg
This cycle is ment to take me up a weight class for my strongman (so I need to try to remain as strong as possible, Moving from >90kg to >105kg). I have run 3 cycles before with minimal issues. I want to go up a weight class because I have found that I am just too tall for the >90kg class, although it does give me a advantage at certain events. I want to try my hand at the >105kg class without having to take a large amount of time off from the sport trying to get myself to a competative level at the higher weight level.
w1-16 6iu E3D (1.5-3-1.5 split) TY BBB considering running for 20-24w
w1-10 250mg Test E E3D (583mg EW)-2ml frontload
w1-10 150mg Tren E E3D (350mg EW)-2ml frontload TY rrjc
w3-12 20mg Dbol Pre Training
w1-10 .25mg ED Adex
w11-12 .125mg ED Adex
40/40/20/20 Nolve PCT (starts week 13)
I have run out of time and have to go to work I will come back and post more in a few hours, but dont let that stop you from going over it even if you think I just missed something out due to time.
EDIT: I will change the cycle as I get posts giving me advice.
I for one would figure out what the dose for 350mg/wk for an E3D schedule and shoot the test and tren together. I would just rather keep tren blood levels as stable as possible.
I’d also up the dose of Dbol to 20-30mg preworkout depending on whether you get back pumps or not. I’ve never done strongman training, but I’d imagine that could be a problem.
Dbol is really hard to aquire where I am in Australia, esspecially since Pharmacies have stopped doing compounding. I am unsure of how much I will be able to get so I will leave it with the 10mg for now. I have modified the tren on cycle as the suggested.
[quote]lytw8 wrote:
I have also chosen to toss the 2iu gh ED w1-16 because of the huge cost.[/quote]
Keep it, but do 6iu E3D, split into 1.5iu, 3iu, 1.5iu.
BBB[/quote]
Could you please give me a quick run down on why and also do you mean run it 1.5-3-1.5-3-1.5-3 because I dont think I would like to have to get even more GH its costing enough as is? I like to know the reasons behind what I am doing so I can be better at setting stuff out in future and helping my friends out as well.
Also I have come into 30 cheap a-50s, so I will keep these around for the end of the cycle if my weight gain is not going so well as I plan on competing towards week 10/11 in the new weight class. Good or bad idea?
Really what I got from skimming over that was that I am not really using enough of it to get any real gains, I will have a better read when I get back from training.
I also maybe able to add Masteron to the cycle. If I decide to not use the GH then Masteron will take its place.
Well now it just seems like you’re adding shit just to add shit. I’ve never used mast before, but test/tren/dbol/gh has a lot of people saying good things. If you want to drop the GH, I’d just use the money to buy more dbol (if you manage to get your hands on it.) Otherwise, I’d just save the money for more/higher quality food.
Sounds reasonable, looks like I will be able to up it to 20mg Dbol Pre-training so that is good. I will keep the mast out for now, but it is still something I would like to try (maybe for my next cycle).
I’m nowhere near as knowledgeable in the field as rrjc or bbb, so guys please correct me if I’m wrong, but 12wks of dbol might be a bit much. Why not do 30mg/day for the first 4 weeks instead?
I forget which thread it was, but some of the vets were pretty convincing in saying that liver damage via oral AAS use was highly overstated. Even more-so when using them preworkout (and thus not everyday.)
That said, I personally wouldn’t run an oral for any longer than 12 weeks, and I’d be using liver support. I do think Dave_ said he used orals for 16 weeks or so while getting liver panels done, and said nothing out of the ordinary happened.
OP, if you’re having a hard time getting your hands on Dbol, I’d probably run them on the tail end of your cycle after the test and tren kick in, anyway.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I forget which thread it was, but some of the vets were pretty convincing in saying that liver damage via oral AAS use was highly overstated. Even more-so when using them preworkout (and thus not everyday.)
That said, I personally wouldn’t run an oral for any longer than 12 weeks, and I’d be using liver support. I do think Dave_ said he used orals for 16 weeks or so while getting liver panels done, and said nothing out of the ordinary happened.
/quote]
Hmm that’s interesting. Thanks for the heads up, I’ll try to find which thread that was
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
IMO 6iu E3D is more than enough to see some great results, mostly in leanness and (if you run it long enough - 4 month or more) mesomorphic tendancies.
BBB[/quote]
Thanks yet again for your input BBB. well I guess that settles it, I will be using GH then, towards the end of the cycle depending on how much cash I have I will see about extending the time using it.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
IMO 6iu E3D is more than enough to see some great results, mostly in leanness and (if you run it long enough - 4 month or more) mesomorphic tendancies.
BBB[/quote]
just a quick question here, i mean three…
you mean 6 iu subQ or Intermu?
if someone is doing a 2 months AAS (test,Deca,Dbol), should he start this protocol (6iu) a month before his cycle or at the beginning of it?
should he start with small dosages the first month or 6iu strait up?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
IMO 6iu E3D is more than enough to see some great results, mostly in leanness and (if you run it long enough - 4 month or more) mesomorphic tendancies.
BBB[/quote]
just a quick question here, i mean three…
you mean 6 iu subQ or Intermu?
if someone is doing a 2 months AAS (test,Deca,Dbol), should he start this protocol (6iu) a month before his cycle or at the beginning of it?
should he start with small dosages the first month or 6iu strait up?
ok, after reading alot of the HGH posts. mainly the ones that Cortes started. i found alot of useful info and i figured that BBB won’t answer these questions because he said:
“days of designing free protocols for folks are past, simply because it would be rude to my paying customers, both on this site and in the real world.”
I really understand where he’s coming from. i think he did enough good to all of us directly or indirectly.
i am going to try and answer my own questions and if anyone has an opinion, i’d be really happy to hear him and learn from him.
1)YOU MEAN 6 IU SUBQ OR INTERMU?
in a lot of post they were refaring to IV injections, and that its the best way to go. but since i am still researching about HGH, i am going to stick with Intermu for my first HGH use although it is going to be a hassle to inject my self in the muscle 3 times a day (morning 1.5iu, pre 3iu, post 1.5iu).
2)IF SOMEONE IS DOING A 2 MONTHS AAS(TEST,DECA,DBOL)…?
i read that HGH can be used year round on its own but mixing it with AAS is better and would give faster results.
3)SHOULD HE START WITH SMALL DOSAGES THE FIRST MONTH OR 6IU STRAIT UP?
couldn’t really find an answer for that in the HGH experiment post
if anyone knows about injecting HGH inter-muscularly and how can a person manage injecting HGH 3 times a day plus two injections of 3mls of AAS a day, it would be appreciated. or maybe you can refare me to a post.
