How Does Fat Leave The Body?

Diet and Nutrition
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Urination and respiration.

Taking in a deep breath, here it goes

Physiology:

There are two types of fuel the body uses for energy, Glucose and Ketones. As you may know, in a normal metabolism, glucose is stored in muscle and organ tissue and circulates at a certain level freely in the blood. Adipose tissue and cholesterol is primarily made by the liver when insulin levels rise above a certain level as a result of excessive glucose in the blood from excessive carb intake.

The liver processes the excess glucose that the muscles and organs could not absorb due to elevated glucose levels. This is a normal function of the body to reserve excess energy (glucose) for later use in the form of adipose tissue.

The break down of adipose tissue occurs in a hypoglycemic (low blood sugar state from not eating enough to replenish normal glucose blood levels) blood state called ketosis. Ketosis is the utilization of stored adipose tissue for the use of energy in the body to function normally when glucose is not available.

Adipose tissue is primarily water filled, fatty triglyceride acids due to glycerol. Glycerol attracts water creating the bulk in triglyceride acids creating adidose tissue. The breakdown of adipose tissue is known as Lyposis or the hydrolization of triglycerides.

Water is the excreted through the kidneys and fatty acids are used by cells for energy through ATP and respiratory oxidation producing the byproduct co2.

This is why science shows Vo2 Max is important in fat burning. The more oxygen you intake during exercise, the more fat you burn. This is why a lower heart rate in aerobic exercise burns more fat vs. anaerobic exercise or your bodies ability to take in o2 to supply muscles enough o2 for aerobic metabolism.

This is why marathon runners carb load before a marathon. There bodies can reach a point where they have no glucose for energy or fat stores for lyposis. This is termed, Hitting a wall. This is why many marathon runner look skinny because muscle is cataboized for use in energy.

ALL weight loss occurs through a hypoglycemic state. You can get to this point running on the tread mill for 2hrs, not eat or dramatically reduce food intake or Low Carb it! Eating protein only aids in preventing catabolisum.

The weight loss, the target range for glucose is 70-100. You can check this with a glucose meter pre/30min post food intake.

Sorry for the long response, but its intended to help people understand the overall picture.

If you want to know more, pm me.

Steve

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[quote]Med Pro wrote:
This is why marathon runners carb load before a marathon. There bodies can reach a point where they have no glucose for energy or fat stores for lyposis. This is termed, Hitting a wall. This is why many marathon runner look skinny because muscle is cataboized for use in energy.
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Hitting a wall is caused by a lack of glucose. Even the leanest runners (%2 nonessential body fat) have enough body fat to act as an energy substrate for multiple back-to-back marathons.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
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Both of these statements are incorrect. Almost no human possesses so little bodyfat that they cannot continue a marathon.

However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

BBB[/quote]

Nooooooo SHIT!! Really?

LOL!!!

Dude really, did you not see it was said in terms that others could follow? I wouldn’t expect you to know that? This is why I stated runners look skinny you fool!

Glucose is the 1st energy the body uses, we all know this. Muscles break down too for use in energy when glucose is no longer adequate… we all know this too… Was it not spelled out for you for you to take issue and post what you think is incorrect? What do you offer here that is positive or to you just cruse this site talking shit?

Always an ass in every crowd…

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
This is why marathon runners carb load before a marathon. There bodies can reach a point where they have no glucose for energy or fat stores for lyposis. This is termed, Hitting a wall. This is why many marathon runner look skinny because muscle is cataboized for use in energy.
[/quote]

Hitting a wall is caused by a lack of glucose. Even the leanest runners (%2 nonessential body fat) have enough body fat to act as an energy substrate for multiple back-to-back marathons.
[/quote]

Agreed!!! BUT the demand, CAN exceed the SPEED at which it is being suppled causing the … wall effect. Agreed? Do you agree with my discription of where fat goes?

Steve

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[quote]Med Pro wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

Both of these statements are incorrect. Almost no human possesses so little bodyfat that they cannot continue a marathon.

However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

BBB[/quote]

Nooooooo SHIT!! Really?

LOL!!!

Dude really, did you not see it was said in terms that others could follow? I wouldn’t expect you to know that? This is why I stated runners look skinny you fool!

Glucose is the 1st energy the body uses, we all know this. Muscles break down too for use in energy when glucose is no longer adequate… we all know this too… Was it not spelled out for you for you to take issue and post what you think is incorrect? What do you offer here that is positive or to you just cruse this site talking shit?

Always an ass in every crowd…

[/quote]

You didn’t just call Bushy a fool and an ass, did you?

Who the hell are you, cunt?

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[quote]Med Pro wrote:
Nooooooo SHIT!! Really?

LOL!!!

Dude really, did you not see it was said in terms that others could follow? I wouldn’t expect you to know that? This is why I stated runners look skinny you fool!

Glucose is the 1st energy the body uses, we all know this. Muscles break down too for use in energy when glucose is no longer adequate… we all know this too… Was it not spelled out for you for you to take issue and post what you think is incorrect? What do you offer here that is positive or to you just cruse this site talking shit?

Always an ass in every crowd…

[/quote]

Are you fucking kidding?

At least you made it abundantly clear who the ass in this crowd is.

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[quote]Med Pro wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[/quote]
Both of these statements are incorrect. Almost no human possesses so little bodyfat that they cannot continue a marathon.

However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

BBB[/quote]

Nooooooo SHIT!! Really?

LOL!!!

Dude really, did you not see it was said in terms that others could follow? I wouldn’t expect you to know that? This is why I stated runners look skinny you fool!

Glucose is the 1st energy the body uses, we all know this. Muscles break down too for use in energy when glucose is no longer adequate… we all know this too… Was it not spelled out for you for you to take issue and post what you think is incorrect? What do you offer here that is positive or to you just cruse this site talking shit?

Always an ass in every crowd…

[/quote]

You talk like a child.

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
This is why marathon runners carb load before a marathon. There bodies can reach a point where they have no glucose for energy or fat stores for lyposis. This is termed, Hitting a wall. This is why many marathon runner look skinny because muscle is cataboized for use in energy.

ALL weight loss occurs through a hypoglycemic state. You can get to this point running on the tread mill for 2hrs, not eat or dramatically reduce food intake or Low Carb it! Eating protein only aids in preventing catabolisum.

[/quote]
Both of these statements are incorrect. Almost no human possesses so little bodyfat that they cannot continue a marathon.

However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

BBB[/quote]

BBB,

So you are saying elevated GH levels can cause the break down of adipose tissue into FFA’s to be used as fuel. As I understand it FFA’s cannot be converted to glucose. So then why would this cause a hyperglycemic state? Whenever there is excess glucose in the blood stream, isn’t that the primary fuel source? So if GH freed up FFA’s to be used as fuel, the body would still preferentially use any excess glucose as the fuel system, not allowing there to be a hyperglycemic state. Anyway, I am interested in your response.

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bushidobadboy said - However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

MUAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Your RIGHT!!! I WOULDNT KNOW THAT!!!

schanz_05 wrote:
So you are saying elevated GH levels can cause the break down of adipose tissue into FFA’s to be used as fuel. As I understand it FFA’s cannot be converted to glucose. So then why would this cause a hyperglycemic state? Whenever there is excess glucose in the blood stream, isn’t that the primary fuel source? So if GH freed up FFA’s to be used as fuel, the body would still preferentially use any excess glucose as the fuel system, not allowing there to be a hyperglycemic state. Anyway, I am interested in your response.

schanz_05, you hit the idiot on the head!!! LOL!

In a normal body, hyperglycemia is caused by consumption. Ask diabetic patients, if they fast, do you need to inject insulin? Answer, NO!

In the cell however the process of gluconeogenesis in starvation can utilize compounds precipitated by oxidation to produce glucose for use in cellular energy. This however will not raise serum glucose levels causing a hyperglycimic state WHAT SO EVER!

The best way to illustrate this is to use a glucose analyzer throughout a hypoglycemic state during exercise and measure levels.

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Iron Dwarf wrote: You didn’t just call Bushy a fool and an ass, did you? Who the hell are you, cunt?

Iron Dwarf, Oh YES I DID!
WHO AM I??? EDUCATED!!!
Iron Dwarf - Did I insult your girlfriend? LOL!

Dude steps up insulting me and I responded back!
You got a problem with that?
Worse off, he attempt’s to insult me with miss information.
LET ME GUESS, YOU DID NOT SEE HIS DISRESPECT?

Instead of adding good info to this forum, he spews stupidity.
Dude needs to study up before speaking up!

Bigmac73nh -

  1. Mind your own dayum business.
  2. Were you in this conversation???
  3. I’m sure he can handle it!!!
  4. You feed him his bottle too? LOL!
  5. Dude I would LAUGH in your FACE!
  6. You are funny! Have a nice day!

p.s. Tech-Junkie
Thanks =)

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Med Pro, thank you for trying to help michaelpagius. This topic is well enough documented for discussions on it being rational and calm rather than childish yellyng. It is easier to read when you don’t type in all caps. Also try not to overreact :slight_smile:

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[quote]espenl wrote:
Med Pro, thank you for trying to help michaelpagius. This topic is well enough documented for discussions on it being rational and calm rather than childish yellyng. It is easier to read when you don’t type in all caps. Also try not to overreact :)[/quote]

What is up Jason Born from the movie Born Identity? espenl I wanted to yell & I react as I want to react… but thanx for the advice. Dont kick anyone ass, unless they give you shit! =)

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[quote]Med Pro wrote:

Instead of adding good info to this forum, he spews stupidity.
Dude needs to study up before speaking up!

Bigmac73nh -

  1. Mind your own dayum business.
  2. Were you in this conversation???
  3. I’m sure he can handle it!!!
  4. You feed him his bottle too? LOL!
  5. Dude I would LAUGH in your FACE!
  6. You are funny! Have a nice day!
    [/quote]

You’re misinformed or just ignorant if you’re suggesting that BBB doesn’t contribute anything to the forum. Actually quite the contrary. It’s pretty cool actually, seeing as he doesn’t post like a touchy bitch and go on vaguely readable, defensive tirades when someone calls him out.

P.S.

  1. Sorry bro, I thought this was the internet, where anyone could contribute if they made an account. My mistake.
  2. I posted at least once in this thread before you did (albeit to make a joke)
  3. I am too
  4. Nope. EL OH ELLLLLLLL!!!
  5. You wouldn’t be the first and you won’t be the last. But if your actual conversational skills and demeanor even remotely resemble the ones you’ve shown in this thread, I really hope I never see you face-to-face. I’ve already met enough people who suck.
  6. Thanks. I don’t think you’ve entertained anyone but yourself here though. You have a good one too!
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[quote]Med Pro wrote:
bushidobadboy said - However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

MUAHAAAHAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Your RIGHT!!! I WOULDNT KNOW THAT!!!

schanz_05 wrote:
So you are saying elevated GH levels can cause the break down of adipose tissue into FFA’s to be used as fuel. As I understand it FFA’s cannot be converted to glucose. So then why would this cause a hyperglycemic state? Whenever there is excess glucose in the blood stream, isn’t that the primary fuel source? So if GH freed up FFA’s to be used as fuel, the body would still preferentially use any excess glucose as the fuel system, not allowing there to be a hyperglycemic state. Anyway, I am interested in your response.

schanz_05, you hit the idiot on the head!!! LOL!

In a normal body, hyperglycemia is caused by consumption. Ask diabetic patients, if they fast, do you need to inject insulin? Answer, NO!

In the cell however the process of gluconeogenesis in starvation can utilize compounds precipitated by oxidation to produce glucose for use in cellular energy. This however will not raise serum glucose levels causing a hyperglycimic state WHAT SO EVER!

The best way to illustrate this is to use a glucose analyzer throughout a hypoglycemic state during exercise and measure levels. [/quote]

Well BBB is far from an idiot. A pretty smart guy overall, that is why I am curious to see what he says.

You would probably get better responses to the information you are trying to explain if you didn’t go so over the top. Just a thought…

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Some very odd and extreme reactions from a self-described “Med Pro” here.

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[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

  1. Sorry bro, I thought this was the internet, where anyone could contribute if they made an account. My mistake.
  2. I posted at least once in this thread before you did (albeit to make a joke)
  3. I am too
  4. Nope. EL OH ELLLLLLLL!!!
  5. You wouldn’t be the first and you won’t be the last. But if your actual conversational skills and demeanor even remotely resemble the ones you’ve shown in this thread, I really hope I never see you face-to-face. I’ve already met enough people who suck.
  6. Thanks. I don’t think you’ve entertained anyone but yourself here though. You have a good one too![/quote]

Fair enough! I am really a good person in person and give maybe more than I should or ever expect to get back, but whatever. It’s why Im post info. It’s not made up, it’s published medical data broken down. Later Brosiff!

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]schanz_05 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]Med Pro wrote:
This is why marathon runners carb load before a marathon. There bodies can reach a point where they have no glucose for energy or fat stores for lyposis. This is termed, Hitting a wall. This is why many marathon runner look skinny because muscle is cataboized for use in energy.

ALL weight loss occurs through a hypoglycemic state. You can get to this point running on the tread mill for 2hrs, not eat or dramatically reduce food intake or Low Carb it! Eating protein only aids in preventing catabolisum.

[/quote]
Both of these statements are incorrect. Almost no human possesses so little bodyfat that they cannot continue a marathon.

However I wouldn’t expect you to know that GH causes a hyperglycemic state, due to the liberation of FFAs, which contributes to weight loss.

BBB[/quote]

BBB,

So you are saying elevated GH levels can cause the break down of adipose tissue into FFA’s to be used as fuel. As I understand it FFA’s cannot be converted to glucose. So then why would this cause a hyperglycemic state? Whenever there is excess glucose in the blood stream, isn’t that the primary fuel source? So if GH freed up FFA’s to be used as fuel, the body would still preferentially use any excess glucose as the fuel system, not allowing there to be a hyperglycemic state. Anyway, I am interested in your response.
[/quote]
In some users, elevated GH causes a measurable elevation in BG.

Whether or not it comes from the metabolism of FFAs, I can’t be 100% certain, but it makes sense to me.

Anyway, this elevation of BG is what makes GH potentially risky for some users, since chronic BG elevation reduces insulin snsitivity.

But that ‘problem’ is easy to avoid. Simply pulse your GH and you will create an environment where BG is also ‘pulsed’ in a sense. Couple this will long preiods of low/no carb to re-establish insulin sensitivity.

You need to realise that if your body is not using or disposing of BG at a rate equal or greater than the rate at which glucose is hitting the bloodstream, you will be in a state of hyperglycemia.

BBB[/quote]

All of that makes sense to me except for the part where metabolism of FFA’s results an in increase of BG. The only way I could see that is if someone is in a ketogenic state, and their preferred fuel source is FFA’s. So GH causes a breakdown of adipose tissue into FFA’s, and lets say for some reason this individual eats a carbohydrate containing meal that results in an increase of BG. The body’s preferred fuel source is still FFA’s, so instead of using the BG the body uses the circulating FFA’s, leaving the BG, and therefore the GH indirectly leads to elevated BG in the body.

That makes sense in my head, but even then I am not familiar enough with ketosis to know if it would actually work that way.