A lot of the best docs are more concerned with symptom resolution than lab numbers. Sometime that takes more than others.
Keep in mind looking only at total T isn’t a great idea either. My total T is 1500+, so you’d probably say I’m too high because of that… but my free T isn’t crazy. My shbg is so ridiculously high that I NEED total T that high to get enough free T to be slightly over the current normal range and to feel normal and resolve my issues.
Youre right. For you it makes sense. Now that you said that i went back up to look at dexters lab. For some reason, i thought his ft was double but its not its elevated but not super elevated. So i take back what i said. He seems to be dosing correct as his total t needs to be quite elevated to get his ft up. Its still a lil more than it needs to be but its not as crazy as i first thought.
@akuma4u @dextermorgan I’m not going to give him a beating because he speaks the truth. All of us on this forum use T as a recreational drug. Make up any excuse/lie you want. You are not on TRT and neither am I.
@hrdlvn that’s 100% true. I take it to be optimal not normal. That’s why I told the OP in the beginning he won’t need to take as much as I do and to start low and go up from there. There are risks involved in this game.
@akuma4u
Some people need more testosterone, more T3 or more from whatever due to insensitive receptors.
With testosterone it is called testosterone resistance syndrome. I have no idea if somebody needs 2000t, but theoretically can. Since Im taking T3 and I consulted a few people with lower T3 than me and no symptoms I can say the same applies there.
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For everyday injections, it doesn’t make sense to run IM… too much scar tissue buildup if done for a long time IMO. This being said: does anyone have recommended injection sites for us ED SubQ folks? I’ve been trying to switch between thighs and love handles, but frankly I don’t have enough fat around my glutes and I can’t pinch fat on my shoulders and inject at the same time… is there any problem with just using these 4 sites for ED injections? Trying to separate the quad injections by a few inches but only have so many fatty spots. If I’m just being a TRT noob, tell me =)
Using 1/2" 27ga needles BTW, and my SHBG is below range.
Are you using prop?
I do IM in the lats EOD. I did m,w,f subq in the fat around the belly button area. Got occasional painful lumps with .25 ml injections.
You probably could do some subq and some IM shots if you want to use more sites. Delts work for most.
I’m using Cyp at the moment. Had considered doing IM for more injection sites but wanted to get dialed in with one injection form first - was unsure how much difference I would see between IM or SubQ and I’d rather do SubQ for the long haul… made sense to get dialed in that way first.
The love handles, or 10 and 2 o’clock.
Any known issues with repeated injections in the same area? It just sounds like distribution would be affected if not enough time passed between injections if in the same area.
I never notice any at repeated injection sites. This goes for SQ and IM. I even did peptides and insulin in same locations and no issues.
Doubt you’ll have scar tissue issues with this small of a needle. Or phrased another way, you’ll have longer before any scar tissue starts to form and can take care of it incrementally.
I have scar tissue in my quads from using 21g 1in needles for years, and a small amount in my delts from 23g 1in needles a few years ago. I’ve switched to 25-27g now and haven’t seen any new build up
Why do you want to inject daily? Im doing shallow im/sub q into glutes every other day and every monday i do 50mg IM. It takes 8 to 12 weeks for subq levels to build up so once that happens i will drop the 50mg IM on mondays.
Just do your subq shots into glutes and be done with it. I dont feel every day injecting is necessary.
So far its working out pretty good!
I assume this was directed towards me.
My SHBG levels are below range, doc said no less than EOD but preferably ED. Since I’m getting dialed in, I’m cool with doing ED… when i feel good, i may reduce to EOD.
Didnt think it was possible to care for built up scar tissue. Will research further
Deep massage can break it up, there’s also some injection you can get to have it broken up too, but I haven’t tried that. Deep massage helped in my quads (was really painful). Only did it once but could tell a small difference. If you did it several times would likely be able to get rid of a lot of it.
I got low shbg too and eod shallow IM/sub q worked for me. I think every day is pointless and overkill. I think people make this more difficult than it is amd complicate matters.
Ed or eod are too much chore for me
I do every 5 days 125mg sustanon (not insulin syringe)
It works excellent so far and I hope Inshallah never gets bad
Since when is sustanon prescribed for TRT?
Omnadren(sust) is pharma test in many places in the world…