How Do You Feel About WalMart?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t see the problem.
Walmart fucked up…
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Could you please expand on this. Or could anybody?
I realize people hop on internet forums and talk self riotously about how they would have handled a situation and maybe that’s what this is.
If anyone of you would have been the manager of that store or the person at cooperate that made the call to not honor food stamps you would have spent Monday cleaning out your desk.
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All they had to do was say sorry for the inconvenience, but due to a malfunction with the EBT system we are unable to accept those payments temporarily. It was Walmart’s fault a little for being so blatantly ignorant as to allow the lowest class of human being to walk in and rob them blind. [/quote]
And you don’t think Wal-mart would be under a class action lawsuit right now?
You just called them the lowest class of human beings so expect them to sue. Why would the manager of that store or the Cooperate office turn away sales and risk a lawsuit?
If you just said to yourself, “it’s the right thing to do”, your living in a make believe world.
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So you get sued over a system malfunction. That wouldn’t hold up. It might, but I really doubt it. [/quote]
Lawsuits are expensive even the frivolous kind that get thrown out. I’m not about to speculate on what holds up in court I am just telling you that letting customers buy groceries and leave your store with malfunctioning EBT cards avoids all that. [/quote]
They are expensive, but big companies like Wal-Mart have attorney’s they are paying anyway just in case they need them. So the cost is not quite as extreme.[/quote]
Now I just think you are missing the point on purpose so I am done after this post.

Just pretend you were the store manager: What does Wal-mart gain by turning away these people?

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They don’t lose money. If they follow the state guidelines set, there is no lawsuit and they don’t lose money. Stores in Mississippi turned people away and outside of Philadelphia there really weren’t many issues other than grumbling. These stores were not the only ones effected by this, they screwed up plain and simple, other Walmarts did not.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

You’re telling me the people that spent hundreds of dollars on cards that had pennies on it had no idea they were going over their limit and they should be absolved of any guilt?

Whether they would or would not do this doesn’t change the fact that it is theft.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

You’re telling me the people that spent hundreds of dollars on cards that had pennies on it had no idea they were going over their limit and they should be absolved of any guilt?

Whether they would or would not do this doesn’t change the fact that it is theft. [/quote]

I don’t care about who feels “guilty”.

I know that technically, no one stole from Walmart until they alone said they would accept no more unlimited food stamps.

Attaching solid “guilt” to those people as far as misdemeanor theft is unlikely.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

You’re telling me the people that spent hundreds of dollars on cards that had pennies on it had no idea they were going over their limit and they should be absolved of any guilt?

Whether they would or would not do this doesn’t change the fact that it is theft. [/quote]

I don’t care about who feels “guilty”.

I know that technically, no one stole from Walmart until they alone said they would accept no more unlimited food stamps.

Attaching solid “guilt” to those people as far as misdemeanor theft is unlikely.[/quote]

Well they actually did still from a Wal-Mart in Mississippi after they rioted because they were told their EBT card wouldn’t work.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

You’re telling me the people that spent hundreds of dollars on cards that had pennies on it had no idea they were going over their limit and they should be absolved of any guilt?

Whether they would or would not do this doesn’t change the fact that it is theft. [/quote]

I don’t care about who feels “guilty”.

I know that technically, no one stole from Walmart until they alone said they would accept no more unlimited food stamps.

Attaching solid “guilt” to those people as far as misdemeanor theft is unlikely.[/quote]

Well they actually did still from a Wal-Mart in Mississippi after they rioted because they were told their EBT card wouldn’t work.[/quote]

That wasn’t the people here, was it?

Nope.

Therefore, actual crime committed equals “zero”>

Walmart fucked up. End of story.

Look, if I see a loofa sponge with a sticker on it for 30 cents and it rings up 4 bucks, you can bet I’m demanding it for the 30 cents even if they stuck the wrong sticker on it.

Same here.

LOL

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Hate to say it, but for the vast majority of people who are sucking the Gov’t breast, there is a reason why they are leeches.

Their plight is due to their poor decisions. Whether it’s having 6 kids out of wedlock, dropping out of high school (or not caring about their grades) or a substance abuse problem. They made choices that put them in the place they are. So we are mostly dealing with ‘problem’ people who are not the finest in society.

Of course they are going to take advantge of this. They understand how to take advantage of all types of free Gov’t bennies. That’s their M.O.

It’s not like it’s their money they are spending. It’s OURS! We earned it, and it’s re-distributed to the bottom-feeders.

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From what I read, it was actually Xerox who managed the account/transactions in this debacle, and have offered to comp wal-mart for their losses up to Xeroxes limit, so there will be some mitigation of loss.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t see the problem.

Walmart fucked up…people took advantage of it.

I lost my wallet in a Chic-fil-a bathroom last year. They took the money and left the wallet.

Should I have been shocked?

I was just glad they left the wallet and the credit cards.

You drop a dollar bill in front of a priest and you better look twice.[/quote]

Hahahahahah, What???

Come on X. [/quote]

Ya, lol, you don’t have a problem with people stealing? Is looting okay too? [/quote]

HA! I’ve watched that video a couple times. That was looting, looting with orderly lines.[/quote]

Lol, true.[/quote]

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

Don’t get me wrong. I think walmart was hoping to keep business moving and had a hope the great Welfare gods would allow the transactions. But they underestimated motherfuckers GREED.

Now let’s shoot from the hip. If my bank account shot up to infinity dollars I would be amazed but then I would become aware of the consequences of my actions. If I would be Held responsible or I would assume such. I would risk some legal action or credit rating issues. And because I worked hard for these things they will play on my decision to take out 10 grand and get a thousand lap dances in Honolulu.

The people in that vid are criminals they stole. Does not matter walmart was trying to get over also.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
1 group takes money and give nothing in return.

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Yep, nothing at all in return…those poor people are known for their frugality and hoarding of all the money that you give them. They don’t use it for anything at all–it goes straight into the mattress until they can buy their own island and go live on it…damn those people who don’t give anything…

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[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Some govt contractor selling a hammer for 500 dollars is no better [/quote]

Yeah, but my tax dollars are not being used to buy said $500 hammer. [/quote]

lol wut?

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[quote]four60 wrote:
Now let’s shoot from the hip. If my bank account shot up to infinity dollars I would be amazed but then I would become aware of the consequences of my actions. If I would be Held responsible or I would assume such. I would risk some legal action or credit rating issues. And because I worked hard for these things they will play on my decision to take out 10 grand and get a thousand lap dances in Honolulu.
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You have something to loose.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

It was Walmart’s mistake. They gave their items away because they fucked up.

The only people who really “stole” technically were the ones arrested after they quit accepting food stamps unlimited.

Does anyone think people on food stamps would NOT do this?[/quote]

You’re telling me the people that spent hundreds of dollars on cards that had pennies on it had no idea they were going over their limit and they should be absolved of any guilt?

Whether they would or would not do this doesn’t change the fact that it is theft. [/quote]

I don’t care about who feels “guilty”.

I know that technically, no one stole from Walmart until they alone said they would accept no more unlimited food stamps.

Attaching solid “guilt” to those people as far as misdemeanor theft is unlikely.[/quote]

Well they actually did still from a Wal-Mart in Mississippi after they rioted because they were told their EBT card wouldn’t work.[/quote]

That wasn’t the people here, was it?

Nope.

Therefore, actual crime committed equals “zero”>

Walmart fucked up. End of story.

Look, if I see a loofa sponge with a sticker on it for 30 cents and it rings up 4 bucks, you can bet I’m demanding it for the 30 cents even if they stuck the wrong sticker on it.

Same here.

LOL
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If a bank “accidentally” wires $10k into your account, and you go out and spend that $10k, are you or are you not guilty of a crime? Use precedent to guide your answer.

Was the guy that stole your money in the Chick-Fil-A guilty or not guilty of a crime?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The flaw in your reasoning is thinking that your tax dollars are going to the military when they are actually going into the pockets of private citizens (e.g., contractors) who, by virtue of being private citizens are no different than those who you refer to as leeches. And what exactly do you mean by indirect costs? They come directly from you no matter where they end up. [/quote]

Except contractors provide a good or a service for the money.[/quote]

A necessary evil is not the same as a good or service.
It is a serious problem that our culture does not recognize the difference.

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[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Hate to say it, but for the vast majority of people who are sucking the Gov’t breast, there is a reason why they are leeches.

Their plight is due to their poor decisions. Whether it’s having 6 kids out of wedlock, dropping out of high school (or not caring about their grades) or a substance abuse problem. They made choices that put them in the place they are. So we are mostly dealing with ‘problem’ people who are not the finest in society.

Of course they are going to take advantge of this. They understand how to take advantage of all types of free Gov’t bennies. That’s their M.O.

It’s not like it’s their money they are spending. It’s OURS! We earned it, and it’s re-distributed to the bottom-feeders.

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Why do “they” make those choices? Why do wealthy, well educated men commit fraud and ruin companies and pension funds? Not everyone on food stamps is a criminal or scumbag and not everyone who isn’t a productive member of society. Vince McMahon even used food stamps at one point. How much of our money went to Iraqis for the sole purpose of trying to give them an incentive to not kill American troops? We even subsidize peace apparently.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
1 group takes money and give nothing in return.

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Yep, nothing at all in return…those poor people are known for their frugality and hoarding of all the money that you give them. They don’t use it for anything at all–it goes straight into the mattress until they can buy their own island and go live on it…damn those people who don’t give anything…
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What exactly do they give in return? Everyone else had to earn their money.

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[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The flaw in your reasoning is thinking that your tax dollars are going to the military when they are actually going into the pockets of private citizens (e.g., contractors) who, by virtue of being private citizens are no different than those who you refer to as leeches. And what exactly do you mean by indirect costs? They come directly from you no matter where they end up. [/quote]

Except contractors provide a good or a service for the money.[/quote]

A necessary evil is not the same as a good or service.
It is a serious problem that our culture does not recognize the difference. [/quote]

Making flight suits is a “necessary evil” vs. A good in your book?

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[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
The flaw in your reasoning is thinking that your tax dollars are going to the military when they are actually going into the pockets of private citizens (e.g., contractors) who, by virtue of being private citizens are no different than those who you refer to as leeches. And what exactly do you mean by indirect costs? They come directly from you no matter where they end up. [/quote]

Except contractors provide a good or a service for the money.[/quote]

A necessary evil is not the same as a good or service.
It is a serious problem that our culture does not recognize the difference. [/quote]

From a previous post in response to similar sentiment-

So, who then, is supposed to do these types of things?

Should we just shitcan our entire military? Are you going to build your own private defense force?

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Hate to say it, but for the vast majority of people who are sucking the Gov’t breast, there is a reason why they are leeches.

Their plight is due to their poor decisions. Whether it’s having 6 kids out of wedlock, dropping out of high school (or not caring about their grades) or a substance abuse problem. They made choices that put them in the place they are. So we are mostly dealing with ‘problem’ people who are not the finest in society.

Of course they are going to take advantge of this. They understand how to take advantage of all types of free Gov’t bennies. That’s their M.O.

It’s not like it’s their money they are spending. It’s OURS! We earned it, and it’s re-distributed to the bottom-feeders.

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Why do “they” make those choices? Why do wealthy, well educated men commit fraud and ruin companies and pension funds? Not everyone on food stamps is a criminal or scumbag and not everyone who isn’t a productive member of society. Vince McMahon even used food stamps at one point. How much of our money went to Iraqis for the sole purpose of trying to give them an incentive to not kill American troops? We even subsidize peace apparently.

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Oh, because a few Bernie Madoff-types and CEOs get indicted for fraud and the national media makes in a story for 6 months, now people that start/develop and run big companies are bad?? So the people that hired you are evil?

I never worked for a broke man. All my jobs (and income and benefits) were GIVEN to me by these filthy, greedy rich CEO-types. They are such terrible people. You know, growing their companies, contributing to my 401K and profit sharing and stock options. The guy who founded my large company is such a rotten dude.

If it wasn’t for him… I’d BE ON FOOD STAMPS!

What a jerk.

More than half of the leeches are committing fraud. You are familiar with the disability explosion in the last 10 years, right? It’s mostly fraud. Why? Because there is no frigging oversight!

Why do you think these dirtbags are so up in arms when it comes to legislation that requires drug testing for section 8 housing??? Because they use their money on drugs and booze!

No longer can this country afford to subsidize people’s poor decisions and behavior. Kick 'em off the island.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Some govt contractor selling a hammer for 500 dollars is no better, and is probably worse, than someone getting foodstamps.
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The way some of those mil specs are, the contractor may well have had to cheat to bring the cost of the hammer down to 500 dollars.