[quote]H factor wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
What’s the point of this, another race baiting, thread? To show that people…I mean, “those” people…will try and take advantage of free money? Warren Buffet’s son takes advantage of farm subsidies. Most people, rich or poor, educated or not, will accept money they didn’t earn even if they know it’s wrong, as long as they think they can get away with it.
We wouldn’t have the term white collar criminal if only “those” people committed fraud. Some govt contractor selling a hammer for 500 dollars is no better, and is probably worse, than someone getting foodstamps. [/quote]
Yeah, but my tax dollars are not being used to buy said $500 hammer. These leeches are using MY TAX DOLLARS! Get them off the Gov’t dole.
Sink or swim. Just like we used to do before there was a damn Gov’t program for everything. Survival of the fittest. [/quote]
So when the military buys those hammers whose money are they using? [/quote]
Ummm my tax dollars. Which I gladly support using my taxes for the military, even if .000001% goes to overpriced purchases. As long as these indirect costs provide for our foreign policy, I support it.
Food stamps? Not so much.
Face it, they are leeches.
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The flaw in your reasoning is thinking that your tax dollars are going to the military when they are actually going into the pockets of private citizens (e.g., contractors) who, by virtue of being private citizens are no different than those who you refer to as leeches. And what exactly do you mean by indirect costs? They come directly from you no matter where they end up. [/quote]
Except contractors provide a good or a service for the money.[/quote]
So don’t be mad about wasted tax dollars because eventually we may get something?
Hey don’t be mad about a 1.35 trillion F-35, eventually we may have something guys! At least we will have got a good. Are you this cavalier at a restaurant? Sure the meal was $100 and burnt, but at least we got something!
Very odd way to look at the situation. The government is inefficient.
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It is, but have you ever worked in a facility with 100% trace-ability on mission critical items or devices, which if they fail, can cause catastrophic levels of fatality?
I have, both as a civilian contractor and as a fabricator in the energy industry. The thing is a lot of the red tape and things you have to do- just to do what you are there for- are in place for a reason. Mainly because someone or some number of people have fucked it up before and either cost millions of dollars or lives.
That is not to say that everybody should like it though either, especially when price tags on stuff spirals upward into the billions. It’s just that to bring some things from paper to reality is extremely difficult and expensive, like nuclear powered air craft carriers and jets that can break mach 3.
No one wants a nuclear meltdown at sea like or something like the Kursk disaster, or APCs built with shitty materials. What would the backlash of stuff like that be?
If that stuff could be done cheap and easy we would have China do it, but believe me, when it comes to extremely critical applications, even china doesn’t want China to do it.
