Is there a way to make more 5 alpha reductase in the body? - and a bu product of this being more DHT?
Basically I am asking is there a way to make more DHT from the test you inject?
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Creatine supplements increases DHT. As far as making more 5- Alpha reductase enzymes, not sure.
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Thanks. Just done a quick read- never knew that! Seems its more in the loading phase than overall but carries on slightly.
Unfortunately its terrible as a supplement for my sport- makes you hold water and blow up and also causes cramps.
Damn
Need something else.
Creatine caused my muscles to cramp constantly, it was like a charlie horse in my shoulders 24/7.
I was never bloated or had water retention. I don’t even get that on TRT.
Most people can take creatine without symptoms.
Yeah no cyclists except a few track sprinters will go near it for the cramps. We get very dehydrated sometimes and makes it much worse.
20% testosterone cream on the scrotum exponentially raises DHT. injetable Masteron, primo, proviron do too
False . These are DHT derivatives. They do not increase DHT in the bloodstream but rather behave like DHT. Blood work proves this and it’s known fact.
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LMFAO. you and your so called “facts” bro… Your 0 for 2 now lmao. Where do you read this shit??? lol Ever taken your OWN blood work on Mast or primo, or just repeating shit off the internet like our other conversation?? Mast and Primo raise DHT via the lowering of SHBG and rise free testosterone, not from the metabolites of the drug themselves… What does Testosterone convert to in the body via 5a-reductase??? Ummmm… DHT…
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Don’t forget about lowering of estrogen.
Absolutely… That too.
It happens for some, and not for others. Lowering of SHBG also increases the clearance rate of testosterone which decreases the amount of the total testosterone that can become free testosterone. If total testosterone goes down enough, someone can end up with lower free testosterone even though there is less SHBG to bind to.
Careful with the aggressive language when you don’t have an understanding of your knowledge level. You’ve accused others of repeating bro science off the internet, but your statement which I quoted is exactly that.
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It happens to the MAJORITY .Im speaking of my own bloodwork brother, you can keep your scolding about the way i talk to yourself… FAR from broscience my friend.
I didnt spew every single thing ive learned on this subject in this thread just so you know. Ive been doing this 20+ years. Im well aware of the mechanism of SHBG
The guys that have low SHBG, dose more frequently because they are aware of the clearance rate of free hormones that arnt bound, so we NEVER have low test. So that point of yours is moot. my SHBG has been under 10 for a decade
Like i said, ill admit when im wrong. I never claimed to know everything. But ive NEVER EVER seen anybody get higher SHBG after DHT derivitive usage. What, 5%???
I think your just jumping on the bandwagon nitpicking because YOU dont like the way i speak either.
I haven’t either.
I am saying some don’t end up with higher free testosterone while using mast or primo. If free testosterone stays the same or goes down, more than likely DHT stays the same or goes down.
What have been your increases in free testosterone from mast or primo? Some certainly do get a bump, but I think for many it ends up being closer to a wash when we consider that lower SHBG tends to increase clearance rate.
FWIW, I have no interest at all in higher DHT. Doesn’t seem to do anything for me that testosterone can’t, and testosterone does it better. I can have single digit DHT and feel the same. I am skeptical about those who claim DHT makes them feel better. I think it is more than likely higher free testosterone that makes them feel better. At least for me, lowering DHT raises my libido. Likely because T and E2 are higher (not sure if one or the other, or both, or something else).
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I can’t see the trollish response from the newb but he’s peppering the forum with slander and childish antics. It was an easy choice for the ignore option in profile settings. I’m sure he’s saying I am wrong in some way but I could go into an in depth argument about why I’m correct. It would fall on deaf ears and I see you’ve basically covered some of it. Hopefully he leaves soon as it’s a real sour to the good nature of this forum.
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Are you Enackers or Carma??? I have changed my way this past year on my views on E2 and AIs, but sheesh you are that rare case I would say check and possibly lower your E2.
Breathe my man, breathe! 
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I don’t miss those guys. You and I have squabbled in the past but have come around to mutual respect I feel. This guy though is just on another planet.
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I was thinking the same thing in the other thread yesterday.
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Ruined mynthread aswell.
Thanks for the sensible inputs everyone else.
I was hoping there was some foods or supplements tbh.
I’m not up for taking non-prescription anabolics to do the job. Just don’t like the idea of buying stuff that has had no regulatory control and injecting it in my body.
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Glad you’re sensible brother.
Increase testosterone.
Increase 5a-reductase with:
Creatine
Coffee
Nicotine
Sorghum
Cordyceps
Avoid 5a-reductase inhibitors such as:
Curcumin
Saw palmetto
Pygeum
Nettle root
Green tea