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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
What are some books to get regarding person goal setting,etc? Like how Angry Chicken was talking about setting very specific goals, and how to reach them with very specific actionable tasks. k-dingo brings up some very interesting points as well, and I would be curious where he got his information from. Does anyone know any good books?

this seems like one of those few topics people can actually learn something from.[/quote]

It’s more like an action you learn from…and you start doing that all day everyday.

The people making the least progress here are usually the type with “general” goals like “i just want to lean up a little” or “I am just trying to stay in shape”.

the ones blowing up are the type who initially plan to gain another 5lbs of good size…and then reset their goals once they reach it.

That is a mindset. Reading up on it is nice, but there are TONS of people reading about how to be successful who never will be.

I put more faith in the action than the intent.[/quote]

This. Though I do read some books about this stuff, its not something you can understand and apply just by reading. We can all read about how to diet, how many carbs/fats to consume, and tips on how to stick to your diet, but once you start dieting and your body starts craving more food nothing you read will matter. The only thing that will matter is if you can stick to your plan. That takes a strong mindset.

I don’t know there are many books about just goal setting, or just planning. It basically boils down to “set a goal, figure out how you can get there and do it”. Hard to write a full book about that IMO which is one reason why most books do a “How to be successful” idea and include those points in the book. Go to Amazon.com and type in “success books” or something and find ones with a lot of reviewers. Usually a decent starting point.

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Also, I think its important to mention that you need to be able to motivate yourself internally if you ever want to accomplish goals. If ALL, or even most, of your motivation or drive comes from having someone else prodding you the whole way you’re screwed when they’re not around. Its good to have support but its bad to be carried.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Baby, I’d CLEAR my “juggling diary” and SHOW you rather than tell you what I’d do to you… and I wouldn’t ask to spend the night, either! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: [/quote]

And this is what makes you different from the rest :wink:

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Apropos not a whole lot – the secret powers of time (an RSA animated video): http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/the_secret_powers_of_time

Sicily has no future tense – that’s why they never get anything done, they can’t plan anything.

Interesting cultural perspective on time and planning.

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[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
What are some books to get regarding person goal setting,etc? Like how Angry Chicken was talking about setting very specific goals, and how to reach them with very specific actionable tasks. k-dingo brings up some very interesting points as well, and I would be curious where he got his information from. Does anyone know any good books?

this seems like one of those few topics people can actually learn something from.[/quote]

For me it was both of Tony Robbins’ main books and Covey’s 7 habits. I read all 3 at 23 and it shaped my life profoundly. It also helped that I saw Tony live.

The thing about goal setting (i believe) is in understanding how you approach tasks, understanding what motivates you, what gets you through procrastination, what fires you up etc.

Because for you to change it doesn’t take years, it just takes that moment when you change. From thinking one way to thinking a way that will bring you closer to your goals.

Do more reflection - what did I do well today? What could have I done better etc?

Not speaking for K-Dingo but I suspect much of what he (?) says comes from experience (as well as AC whom I have great respect for for this very reason). I think all of us have experiences that we should be proud of and building on those past successes have every opportunity to be successful in the future.

I read somewhere that (and I’m paraphrasing) that it’s the most difficult situations that we got through that we remember best, not the easy days, the days that started tough but where we finished triumphant, or had a tough experience but RESOLVED to get better.

Finally when I was in a strong period of self development, reading similar books, doing MLM, trying to start a business, not sure where my life was heading but with a head full of ambition - I wrote, I wrote a lot about how I felt, my feelings, what I wanted to do with my life, by when etc. The written word written by you is a lot more powerful than what you think in your mind (only in your mind).

I’m also a big believer in visualisation, the second creation etc that what I think will be what happens, if it’s in mind it’s getting done in real life. And this force is powerful.

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[quote]XanderBuilt wrote:

[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
What are some books to get regarding person goal setting,etc? Like how Angry Chicken was talking about setting very specific goals, and how to reach them with very specific actionable tasks. k-dingo brings up some very interesting points as well, and I would be curious where he got his information from. Does anyone know any good books?

this seems like one of those few topics people can actually learn something from.[/quote]

For me it was both of Tony Robbins’ main books and Covey’s 7 habits. I read all 3 at 23 and it shaped my life profoundly. It also helped that I saw Tony live.

The thing about goal setting (i believe) is in understanding how you approach tasks, understanding what motivates you, what gets you through procrastination, what fires you up etc.

Because for you to change it doesn’t take years, it just takes that moment when you change. From thinking one way to thinking a way that will bring you closer to your goals.

Do more reflection - what did I do well today? What could have I done better etc?

Not speaking for K-Dingo but I suspect much of what he (?) says comes from experience (as well as AC whom I have great respect for for this very reason). I think all of us have experiences that we should be proud of and building on those past successes have every opportunity to be successful in the future.

I read somewhere that (and I’m paraphrasing) that it’s the most difficult situations that we got through that we remember best, not the easy days, the days that started tough but where we finished triumphant, or had a tough experience but RESOLVED to get better.

Finally when I was in a strong period of self development, reading similar books, doing MLM, trying to start a business, not sure where my life was heading but with a head full of ambition - I wrote, I wrote a lot about how I felt, my feelings, what I wanted to do with my life, by when etc. The written word written by you is a lot more powerful than what you think in your mind (only in your mind).

I’m also a big believer in visualisation, the second creation etc that what I think will be what happens, if it’s in mind it’s getting done in real life. And this force is powerful.[/quote]

Good Post

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personally, i’ve never really wanted anything that bad. and i’m surrounded by people with a similar mentality. when i read stories of great sacrifices to reach lofty goals, i’m impressed, sometimes inspired, but i just can’t really connect with it. i think to myself, do i want anything that badly? am i willing to make the sacrifices necessary? and there’s nothing that really comes to mind. there’s nothing that i greatly desire. i want certain things, but nothing out of the ordinary.

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[quote]behexen wrote:
Beauty and wisdom. Hallowed is right, if you really want something your willing to make the sacrifices to achieve it. I remember seeing this video a long time ago and loved it. Watch it from time to time just to keep motivated.

My mom sent me this video a few years ago…quality stuff.

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This is a great thread to read. Special thanks to AC and K-dingo. You are both inspirational.

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[quote]k-dingo wrote:
Apropos not a whole lot – the secret powers of time (an RSA animated video): http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/the_secret_powers_of_time

Sicily has no future tense – that’s why they never get anything done, they can’t plan anything.

Interesting cultural perspective on time and planning.[/quote]

Bookmarked for later, sounds very interesting. Thanks!

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Simple but thank you very much. I am going to start journal and night with that question in the forefront. I, too, when I was about 21-24 in a stage of strong self-improvement. I learned a lot in those years, but it wasn’t until recently that I actually was able to start assemblying what I learned into really useable information. For me, the main road block was that I was unable to connect what I was learning with real world application, specfically in the areas of communication with others. I felt like I couldn’t get through to anyone, and now I am learning how to accept that. It was weird, to have all this “knowledge” and yet still be so stupid :slight_smile:

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[quote]nomorewar wrote:
I don’t agree at all with the "some people have “it” some people don’t quote. If somebody threatens to kill your family and chop off your balls unless you start a successful business in a year… YOU WILL DO IT!!! everybody has it in them. [/quote]

Fight or Flight…many will simply walk away and allow their family to die.

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[quote]AdamC wrote:
personally, i’ve never really wanted anything that bad. and i’m surrounded by people with a similar mentality. when i read stories of great sacrifices to reach lofty goals, i’m impressed, sometimes inspired, but i just can’t really connect with it. i think to myself, do i want anything that badly? am i willing to make the sacrifices necessary? and there’s nothing that really comes to mind. there’s nothing that i greatly desire. i want certain things, but nothing out of the ordinary.[/quote]

Fuckin’ A!

That’s what motivated me at first! LMAO

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Willpower

  • Either you have it as a kid or you don’t ( you can easely see this in sports, there are those that always try to get the ball and when they lose it, they wil stop at nothing to get it back )
  • Your parents can stimulate you to grow more willpower ( if they push you and you achieve succes, you are more likely to keep on going even in your elderly years when sometimes stuff, doesn’t work our the way you want it to work out. )

Imo, the way you have bin raised plays a vital part with willpower.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]AdamC wrote:
personally, i’ve never really wanted anything that bad. and i’m surrounded by people with a similar mentality. when i read stories of great sacrifices to reach lofty goals, i’m impressed, sometimes inspired, but i just can’t really connect with it. i think to myself, do i want anything that badly? am i willing to make the sacrifices necessary? and there’s nothing that really comes to mind. there’s nothing that i greatly desire. i want certain things, but nothing out of the ordinary.[/quote]

Fuckin’ A!

That’s what motivated me at first! LMAO[/quote]

hahaha. nice.