southside, I’m not trying to be an ass here, but your mispelling of cynical could reflect the smarts in your view.
Ever heard of TESTING THE GOODS ?
Ever considered SEXUAL (IN)COMPATIBILITY?
I’m not buying it. How can sex be bad? Even if its not fantastic, how hard is it to learn to be better?
I’ve been married for about 5 years, and I have had some great sex with my wife. I’ve also had some ok sex. But bad sex? How can that happen to a guy? And as long a the guy is taking care of the girl, it ain’t gonna be bad for her, either.
Of course, maybe I struck gold with my wife. Especially since I don’t have anyone to compare her to.
Or maybe we worked really hard to become compatible.
In faith,
Sam
SAMIAM: Sex is like any other human activity. Some are good at it. Some aren’t. Some like it. Some don’t (or less, like you say). Some are willing to ‘learn’ and change. Some don’t. Some care about their partners as much as themselves. Some don’t.
You get the drill.
IMHO, what stands the test of time is to just be sure you hook up with someone who has a lot in common with you in these matters (appetites, preferences, moods, swings, etc.), or kinda close (with interesting complementarity, but not too different either).
Lucky for you if you never had any what could be called bad experiences. I have had some. You know… some kind of fire and lighting there before, try it for fun, not what you expected, won`t do it again with that person. You learn of your experience and move on. Makes the (next) good partner stand out even more. You have a reference point to compare.
Just my 2 cents.
Interesting discussion.
I took a class in college which was tought by a reknowned religious studies professor. The class was entitled “Jesus and the Gospels.” The one point that I found most interesting over the course of the semester, and I believe it was asked about as an essay question on one of the exams, was that there is NO PLACE in the Bible where it says, “You must not have sex before marriage.” There are references to adultery being wrong, homosexuality being wrong, vague mentions of “sexual immorality,” but it does NOT clearly state that it is any kind of a sin to have sex before marriage.
The professor’s point was that this evolved as more of a TRADITION among Christian cultures (I forget which group/tribes pushed for it in the early days and why), and has since been taken to be “law,” which it’s not. (Jewish culture, on the other hand, did not adopt this same tradition of no-sex-before-marriage-lest-you-go-to-Hell). He wasn’t trying to promote the idea of wild orgies or anything (he himself was Catholic), just pointing out the facts. If someone can find me the Bible quote proving that I’m wrong then I’ll admit it, but he spent a good period of time explaining the history of this.
Damici, what college did this ‘reknowned’ professor teach at? IMO, the Bible does not advocate liberal Christianity. You can find a Christian homosexual who justifies his lifestyle at Harvard Divinity School, but that doesn’t make it any more right in God’s eyes. Have you ever read the Bible for yourself or just taken classes with liberal professors? Try that. I’m not going to go through the many passages that touch on and hint at this topic, as may have been covered in your class, but start reading with 1 Cor 7. I don’t think premarital sex is condemned in the Gospels, but you should read at least the whole New Testament for yourself before you just accept what a professor told you.
clintpatty, obviously you are a walking dictionary but the next time you corredct someone on their spelling, how about not ending your first sentance with a preposition. But I guess those scholars in Alabama tought you that. Not trying to be an ass.
Steelyeyes, I get where you are coming from. You are right, the GUILT factor isn’t there an I am thankful for that. It is good that you can put that behind you, and yes as we all mature we tend to let things go. I am happy to hear that you and your wife have been together for 20+ years, you dont hear of that much these days. Sorry if I came off a little brunt, but you never know on these forums if you are being mocked or if someone is serious.
MrFriday, I put ‘reknowned’ in quotes because I thought Damici should be more critical of his liberal professor, not because it was misspelled; I did not change the spelling because quotes would have been inappropriate then. Yes, the scholars in Alabama tought (yeah, I’m trying to point this one out hehe) me that a better sentence would have been “At what college did this ‘reknowned’ professor teach?”. Also, ‘teach at’ might be a particle, but I really doubt it.
Clintpatty,
(A.) There was nothing liberal about him. Because he stated something that might go against the typically understood view of the issue, doesn’t make him “liberal.” He simply pointed out a fact.
(B.) Like I said, if you can prove otherwise, I’d love to see the quote from the Bible. Not something “alluding to” it, not a “general idea,” but a quote, saying that premarital sex is not allowed, and is a sin. If you can prove me wrong, go ahead, but I doubt that you can.
Damici, did you read 1 Cor 7? I mentioned it because it doesn’t allude. It says it’s better for a Christian man to not get married and that he shouldn’t touch a woman; however, if he cannot restrain himself, it’s good for him to get married.
Sorry if I came off a little brunt, but you never know on these forums if you are being mocked or if someone is serious.
No harm, no foul…