Homeless Vet Beaten by Mob

Off Topic Politics and World Issues
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
This isn’t news because it was a single death that nobody disagrees was wrong. National news needs to be bigger incident, or controversial.
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That’s pure and utter bullshit.

If the races had been reversed, you’d be seeing this splashed everywhere, and our dear president would be talking about how “disturbing” the video is.[/quote]

And if it was done by a white guy it would have been due to depression, mental illness, medication, his daddy didn’t love him, mommy ignored him, or it was a fucking gloomy Monday. Never a violent person, racist, thug, or gangster. [/quote]

Can’t any of you clowns READ?

This was an attack by multiple people, some with weapons, and an attack that continued after the innocent guy lost consciousness.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of your narrative.

Christ!

And to answer your inane comment, had it been done by white people, it would be called a hate crime and a “modern day lynching,” genius.

[/quote]

Really?

[/quote]

Did I miss the part in the article where it says these pieces of shit were depressed, mentally ill, on medication, daddy didn’t love them, mommy ignored them, or that it was a fucking gloomy Monday? Because I didn’t miss where the article pointed out that the victim was Hispanic.

“Police said Scott Leader, 38, told them it was OK to assault the man because he was Hispanic and homeless.”[/quote]

Pretty sure he meant this

"And to answer your inane comment, had it been done by white people, it would be called a hate crime and a “modern day lynching,” genius.

There was no mention of that in the article. Unless that only pertains to black people.

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[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]maverick88 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
This isn’t news because it was a single death that nobody disagrees was wrong. National news needs to be bigger incident, or controversial.
[/quote]

That’s pure and utter bullshit.

If the races had been reversed, you’d be seeing this splashed everywhere, and our dear president would be talking about how “disturbing” the video is.[/quote]

And if it was done by a white guy it would have been due to depression, mental illness, medication, his daddy didn’t love him, mommy ignored him, or it was a fucking gloomy Monday. Never a violent person, racist, thug, or gangster. [/quote]

Can’t any of you clowns READ?

This was an attack by multiple people, some with weapons, and an attack that continued after the innocent guy lost consciousness.

But don’t let the facts get in the way of your narrative.

Christ!

And to answer your inane comment, had it been done by white people, it would be called a hate crime and a “modern day lynching,” genius.

[/quote]

Really?

[/quote]

Did I miss the part in the article where it says these pieces of shit were depressed, mentally ill, on medication, daddy didn’t love them, mommy ignored them, or that it was a fucking gloomy Monday? Because I didn’t miss where the article pointed out that the victim was Hispanic.

“Police said Scott Leader, 38, told them it was OK to assault the man because he was Hispanic and homeless.”[/quote]

Pretty sure he meant this

"And to answer your inane comment, had it been done by white people, it would be called a hate crime and a “modern day lynching,” genius.

There was no mention of that in the article. Unless that only pertains to black people.

[/quote]

They made sure to point out the victim is Hispanic as if that matters.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
I bet not one liberal addresses Zeb’s FBI statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure what you want anyone to say, other than the obvious conclusion that blacks kill mostly blacks and whites kill mostly whites. I’m not sure what “Liberal” perspective you want on that data.

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[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
I bet not one liberal addresses Zeb’s FBI statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure what you want anyone to say, other than the obvious conclusion that blacks kill mostly blacks and whites kill mostly whites. I’m not sure what “Liberal” perspective you want on that data.
[/quote]

That there is more black on white crime than white on white crime?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
I bet not one liberal addresses Zeb’s FBI statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure what you want anyone to say, other than the obvious conclusion that blacks kill mostly blacks and whites kill mostly whites. I’m not sure what “Liberal” perspective you want on that data.
[/quote]

That there is more black on white crime than white on white crime?

[/quote]

Zeb,

Well according to the very easy to read chart that is not the case.

3128 white victims 2614 white offenders 431 black offenders

2648 black victims 193 white offenders 2412 black offenders

My math isn’t great but 2614 seems bigger than 431 so…

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I think what Zeb was trying to say: now this is based on 2014 data.
Is that Whites make up roughly 72% of the population and Blacks make up 12% of the population.

White on black murder : 187 out of 2451 of total blacks killed.

Black on white murder : 446 out of 3021 of total whites killed.

Very high percentage rate for being only 12% of the population and if you do some math to get same comparable it comes out if total blacks killed were the same as whites (3021) white on black would increase to 224 just about 1/2 of black on white crime is.

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[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chartâ?¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isnâ??t great eitherâ?¦but Iâ??m guessing that this was the pointâ?¦
So��[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting.

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[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I think what Zeb was trying to say: now this is based on 2014 data.
Is that Whites make up roughly 72% of the population and Blacks make up 12% of the population.

White on black murder : 187 out of 2451 of total blacks killed.

Black on white murder : 446 out of 3021 of total whites killed.

Very high percentage rate for being only 12% of the population and if you do some math to get same comparable it comes out if total blacks killed were the same as whites (3021) white on black would increase to 224 just about 1/2 of black on white crime is.
[/quote]

Again, this is not what Zeb said, he was very clear in his statement, it doesn’t need to be corrected so what exactly are you trying to do?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I think what Zeb was trying to say: now this is based on 2014 data.
Is that Whites make up roughly 72% of the population and Blacks make up 12% of the population.

White on black murder : 187 out of 2451 of total blacks killed.

Black on white murder : 446 out of 3021 of total whites killed.

Very high percentage rate for being only 12% of the population and if you do some math to get same comparable it comes out if total blacks killed were the same as whites (3021) white on black would increase to 224 just about 1/2 of black on white crime is.
[/quote]

Again, this is not what Zeb said, he was very clear in his statement, it doesn’t need to be corrected so what exactly are you trying to do? [/quote]

LOL.

Slide that fig leaf just a bit to the right.

We can still see your ass peeking out.[/quote]

Chushin,

I can only guess that the plan now is to post nonsensical gibberish that diverts attention from the original argument.

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[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]doogie wrote:
I bet not one liberal addresses Zeb’s FBI statistics.[/quote]

I’m not sure what you want anyone to say, other than the obvious conclusion that blacks kill mostly blacks and whites kill mostly whites. I’m not sure what “Liberal” perspective you want on that data.
[/quote]

That there is more black on white crime than white on white crime?

[/quote]

Zeb,

Well according to the very easy to read chart that is not the case.

3128 white victims 2614 white offenders 431 black offenders

2648 black victims 193 white offenders 2412 black offenders

My math isn’t great but 2614 seems bigger than 431 so…[/quote]

Blacks comprise about 12% of the population. Now take another look at the statistics with that in mind.

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[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chart�¢?�¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isn�¢??t great either�¢?�¦but I�¢??m guessing that this was the point�¢?�¦
So�¢?�¦�¢?�¦[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting. [/quote]

Actually Einstein I originally posed it as a question. I thought you’d be able to understand that about 12% of the population is awfully busy wreaking havoc.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chart�?�¢?�?�¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isn�?�¢??t great either�?�¢?�?�¦but I�?�¢??m guessing that this was the point�?�¢?�?�¦
So�?�¢?�?�¦�?�¢?�?�¦[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting. [/quote]

Actually Einstein I originally posed it as a question. I thought you’d be able to understand that about 12% of the population is awfully busy wreaking havoc.
[/quote]

I doubt you’re implying that 100% of the black population in the US is busy wreaking havoc…O_o

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[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chart�??�?�¢?�??�?�¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isn�??�?�¢??t great either�??�?�¢?�??�?�¦but I�??�?�¢??m guessing that this was the point�??�?�¢?�??�?�¦
So�??�?�¢?�??�?�¦�??�?�¢?�??�?�¦[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting. [/quote]

Actually Einstein I originally posed it as a question. I thought you’d be able to understand that about 12% of the population is awfully busy wreaking havoc.
[/quote]

I doubt you’re implying that 100% of the black population in the US is busy wreaking havoc…O_o[/quote]

Oh my gosh of course not.

Read the stats for yourself it is obvious what is going on.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]polo77j wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chart�??�??�?�¢?�??�??�?�¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isn�??�??�?�¢??t great either�??�??�?�¢?�??�??�?�¦but I�??�??�?�¢??m guessing that this was the point�??�??�?�¢?�??�??�?�¦
So�??�??�?�¢?�??�??�?�¦�??�??�?�¢?�??�??�?�¦[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting. [/quote]

Actually Einstein I originally posed it as a question. I thought you’d be able to understand that about 12% of the population is awfully busy wreaking havoc.
[/quote]

I doubt you’re implying that 100% of the black population in the US is busy wreaking havoc…O_o[/quote]

Oh my gosh of course not.

Read the stats for yourself it is obvious what is going on. [/quote]

I’ve read the stats - I don’t think they tell the WHOLE story but inferences can be had from them, absolutely. (my comment had more to do with your framing of the comment than anything else)

I think there’s a lot missing in the presented numbers that mean a lot more than just skin color. To me, those numbers raise a lot more questions than they answer.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]PonyWhisperer wrote:

[quote]Ajax19 wrote:
PonyWhisperer,
According to the very easy to read chart�?�¢?�?�¦
Black on white murders numbered 431, while white on black murders numbered 193… 431/193=2.233 Meaning there were more than twice as many black on white murders as there were white on black murders.
Secondly, there were a total of 1,804 + 1,045+26 = 2,875 white murderers in 2012, compared with 2,257 + 622+17 = 2,896 black murderers in 2012. Meaning more than half of all murders in 2012 were committed by the black population.
Lastly, and perhaps most relevant, the black population in the U.S. is just 12.5 percent of total.
My math isn�?�¢??t great either�?�¢?�?�¦but I�?�¢??m guessing that this was the point�?�¢?�?�¦
So�?�¢?�?�¦�?�¢?�?�¦[/quote]

Well that is a nice way of looking at it, but Zeb said that there is more black on white crime than white on white crime, meaning that he cannot even understand the stats he is posting. [/quote]

Actually Einstein I originally posed it as a question. I thought you’d be able to understand that about 12% of the population is awfully busy wreaking havoc.
[/quote]

ZEB,

So your defense is that you posted stats and did not understand them? Luckily you have a group of white knights coming to your defense and helping you re-frame your original post. The fact is that you thought the stats supported your view of the world and clearly they don’t, so now, with the help of a few like minded individuals you have decided to change your argument by using black murder rates compared with overall population numbers to paint a picture of black (on black) violence as an epidemic, is that about right?

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[quote]polo77j wrote:
To me, those numbers raise a lot more questions than they answer.[/quote]

Like what?