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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Norway.

lol

Ignorance speaks volumes.

You have filled the internet in the last couple days.[/quote]

Atleast i’m trying too :slight_smile:

I’ve tried to end this never ending argument several times, but when i get posts like the one a few above i can’t help myself. I have nothing against the T-Nation members, and never ment to start all this shit. Not a good start on a great forum… But what a heck, i’m having fun :smiley:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
5.0 wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
LOL.

LOL has been replaced. It is now FAS.

Funny As Shit.

Thank you.

Or it’s replaced by, “I’ll write whatever the fuck I want.”[/quote]

IWWTFIW??

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Greatest country in the world? Hmm, thats odd. How come 6 years in a row norway has been the best country in the world to live in (from the UN statistics) & the richest country in the world per capita?

[/quote]
The UN can gobble my thick meaty chode.

Because the good athletes here don’t give two shits about the winter Olympics.

Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…[/quote]

That’s not exactly our fault either.

[quote]Agressive Napkin wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

That’s not exactly our fault either.[/quote]

Never said it was.

EDIT: Depends on what part of my post you commented on. If it is the part about invading for oil or athletes shooting up, then, yes, yes it is.

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…[/quote]

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.[/quote]

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.

[quote]Vechter wrote:
I have 3 Russian Specnaz dug in my front lawn.
They’ll beat the crap out of american pussy-ass marines
they have green berets for breakfast
![/quote]

US Marines primary mission is amphibious operations,and Green Berets primary mission is as teachers/instructors to indig personnel seeking to be freedom fighters. Russian Specops are very good at what they do (I personally know a few veterans) but they are far from the supermen you talk them up to be.

The average Green Beret is more highly educated and well read than any Russian Specops line soldier. You, Sir, are comparing the proverbial “apples & oranges” and clearly are ignorant of the facts and missions the various Special Ops groups of the world perform.

There is nothing more asinine than comparing who is “tougher” from these fine men. This sort of stupidity diminishes all the hard work and excellence they represent for their countries and units.

Show some maturity and class…knock off the movie/videogame crap-talking view of these military professionals, please, it is insulting to them all…

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.
[/quote]

are you serious. Do you not understand how big 30% is? There is NO WAY IN HELL your countrymen make on average 30% more then the average american. The minimum wage point is moot. People working for minimum wage are teenagers or people with a poorly thought out life plan.

get fucking real.

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.
[/quote]

Per capita income of an American: 41,890
Per capita income of a Norwegian: 41,420
So, basically the same, but after taxes the American will have a fair bit more.

Oh, and how much does the government take away from you in taxes? Norway’s government is a humongous spender, plus being a welfare state, and not a lot of fiscal, financial or labor freedom. Your unemployment rate isn’t that much better than ours (4.6 vs 5).

But it seems were getting away from the guns/knives/clubs.
In my family’s collection theres a 357, 38, Glock 19, 2 AR-15s, 2 12 gauges, 1911, plus my competition guns including one of the AR 15s.

[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
Vechter wrote:
I have 3 Russian Specnaz dug in my front lawn.
They’ll beat the crap out of american pussy-ass marines
they have green berets for breakfast
!

US Marines primary mission is amphibious operations,and Green Berets primary mission is as teachers/instructors to indig personnel seeking to be freedom fighters. Russian Specops are very good at what they do (I personally know a few veterans) but they are far from the supermen you talk them up to be.

The average Green Beret is more highly educated and well read than any Russian Specops line soldier. You, Sir, are comparing the proverbial “apples & oranges” and clearly are ignorant of the facts and missions the various Special Ops groups of the world perform.

There is nothing more asinine than comparing who is “tougher” from these fine men. This sort of stupidity diminishes all the hard work and excellence they represent for their countries and units.

Show some maturity and class…knock off the movie/videogame crap-talking view of these military professionals, please, it is insulting to them all…

[/quote]

BLACKSNAKE PWN3D!

good post.

Marlin .357

[quote]mattchew wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.

Per capita income of an American: 41,890
Per capita income of a Norwegian: 41,420
So, basically the same, but after taxes the American will have a fair bit more.

Oh, and how much does the government take away from you in taxes? Norway’s government is a humongous spender, plus being a welfare state, and not a lot of fiscal, financial or labor freedom. Your unemployment rate isn’t that much better than ours (4.6 vs 5).

But it seems were getting away from the guns/knives/clubs.
In my family’s collection theres a 357, 38, Glock 19, 2 AR-15s, 2 12 gauges, 1911, plus my competition guns including one of the AR 15s.
[/quote]

The thing is, we pay a bit more taxes yes. But we get free health insurance, free dental, free schooling and basically whatever we crave. I guess the statistics have changed a bit, but your minimum vage is still quiet alot lover then ours, about 20 dollars actually. The reason our unemployment rate is that way is because a lot of people are basically slackers and get enough money doing nothing to go to italy a few times a year.

[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.

are you serious. Do you not understand how big 30% is? There is NO WAY IN HELL your countrymen make on average 30% more then the average american. The minimum wage point is moot. People working for minimum wage are teenagers or people with a poorly thought out life plan.

get fucking real.[/quote]

It’s the same here, i made 28 dollars on my first job selling tickets at the local pool. I am quiet real actually

With all due respect Andyyboy, your arguments are quite suspect. You make generalized statements about something and then when it is shown to be untrue, you spin off on another tangent. Please stop doing that, as it makes you like a fool and it hurts my head.

Surely Norway is a wonderful country. There is no doubt that the women are beautiful (note my avatar). However, to argue that your country is the best is a simple display of juvenile arrogance. Every country has warts. Stop bashing the United States too. Whenever something goes wrong in the world, you do not see everyone turning to Norway to make things right.

For the record, the country with the tallest people on average is the Netherlands. That said, with Montenegro’s recent independence, the Montenegrans may now be be the tallest on average. I have never read that Norway has the tallest population, on average, in the world. Would you care to cite any studies or articles that support your claims?

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.
&
It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…[/quote]

Would you care to elaborate on your comments about our Olympic athletes not being able to pass drug tests? Are they not subject to the same rigorous testing program as the rest of the world?

There is no doubt that athletes use banned performance enhancing drugs, but to say that it is only the Americans or that our top athletes cannot pass drug tests is simply ridiculous.

This is probably going to be my last post to you on this subject, as it is a waste of my time. Again, I would urge you to stop making such stupid generalized statements. Even if you eliminate just one a day, the web will be a better place.

[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
mattchew wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Because the good athletes over there wouldnt pass a drug test.

&

It’s not my fault we got lucky and found a shitload of oil and don’t need to invade other countries to get more…

Cost of living is about 30% higher in Norway than in the United States

-wikipedia

so having more money if you have to spend more money by default makes you better? hahahahahhahahahha

Norway has compulsory military service for men

There isn’t a single european country that touches the US at this point. You making idiotic statements on the interwebs just goes to show.

Sorry to tell you that bud.

I dont know have my times i’ve actually had this discussion.

Yes, the cost of living is 30% more, but then again your minimum vage is from 5-7 US dollars and ours are aproxomatly 26 US dollars an hour. Do the math, it’s stil cheaper and we get to go where ever the fuck we want in the world and it’s cheap as hell.

I can work at a grocery store and still make more than most americans. 30% doesnt mean shit when you look at the big picture. I’m tired, going to bed.

Per capita income of an American: 41,890
Per capita income of a Norwegian: 41,420
So, basically the same, but after taxes the American will have a fair bit more.

Oh, and how much does the government take away from you in taxes? Norway’s government is a humongous spender, plus being a welfare state, and not a lot of fiscal, financial or labor freedom. Your unemployment rate isn’t that much better than ours (4.6 vs 5).

But it seems were getting away from the guns/knives/clubs.
In my family’s collection theres a 357, 38, Glock 19, 2 AR-15s, 2 12 gauges, 1911, plus my competition guns including one of the AR 15s.

The thing is, we pay a bit more taxes yes. But we get free health insurance, free dental, free schooling and basically whatever we crave. I guess the statistics have changed a bit, but your minimum vage is still quiet alot lover then ours, about 20 dollars actually. The reason our unemployment rate is that way is because a lot of people are basically slackers and get enough money doing nothing to go to italy a few times a year.[/quote]

Unless you have other info contradicting this, Norways minimum wage is set according to industry. For an unskilled construction worker it is $15.

http://www.fellesforbundet.no/internet/templates/international_article.aspx?id=23027

That is wrong.

1USD is 5.27 NOK

120.50NOK = 22.87

Apparently this is an old source, so it is higher theese days.

[quote]VanderLaan wrote:
With all due respect Andyyboy, your arguments are quite suspect. You make generalized statements about something and then when it is shown to be untrue, you spin off on another tangent. Please stop doing that, as it makes you like a fool and it hurts my head.

Surely Norway is a wonderful country. There is no doubt that the women are beautiful (note my avatar). However, to argue that your country is the best is a simple display of juvenile arrogance. Every country has warts. Stop bashing the United States too. Whenever something goes wrong in the world, you do not see everyone turning to Norway to make things right.

For the record, the country with the tallest people on average is the Netherlands. That said, with Montenegro’s recent independence, the Montenegrans may now be be the tallest on average. I have never read that Norway has the tallest population, on average, in the world. Would you care to cite any studies or articles that support your claims?
[/quote]

The reason i even brought up thos statistics was because some patriotic idiot kept telling me america is the greatest, everyone wants to be like them, yada yada yada… I don’t mean to be disrespectful to the american people, i simply reply to the posts i get against me and my country, and i am defending my beliefs. I don’t see the people turn to america? If your thinking about WW2 it could have been stopped way earlier if you would have reacted before your own country was attacked instead of watching the world burn. I’m not denying you ended up saving the war, but it could have been saved way earlier it happend earlier. Ofcourse if you put the US army against the norwegian army we would get whoopet… You country is a 100times bigger than ours. I’m not trying to say we’re so great, but the guy some how pushed my buttons when he said my country is so crappy basically.

I have the source on my computer at home, ill get it to you sooner or later. We have the tallest MALES, not females, our males are a bit taller than in the netherlands, but their woman are quiet taller than ours which equals in them being talles combined.