[quote]StrengthDawg wrote:
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Thanks for setting me straight on a few things. If I have, yet again, been talking out of my ass I apologize. [/quote]
No worries man. ALL knowledge in IMPUTED, meaning someone must tell us things. Hell, we don’t even know our own names as a child, we must be told it. 
[quote]batman730 wrote:
Regarding manoeuvrability: for starters I don’t think manoeuvrability is super critical to home defence as I believe the safest plan in most situations to take up a static, defensible position, call the police and hold. This won’t always be practical, but generally it’s a good bet IMO…[/quote]
You would be correct 99.9% of the time. Short of a hostage situation trying to clear your own house is a bad idea. You doin’t know how many perps are in your house. Odds are it aint just one guy… Not only that while you are out playing cop, someone can then take a hostage or get in behind you in which nothing good will come from this. During a home invasion, you need to get all the family behind and off to the side of you if at all possible. They need to be on the phone with the cops. You are the line in the sand, and by God no one is getting past that line.
[quote]batman730 wrote:
That being said, I respectfully disagree with some of your statements about how a pistol and a shotgun are equal in terms of CQB. If your pistol is punched out at full extension, your statement is true. However, I would submit a pistol can be sucked in close to the body (while still allowing room for the slide to travel) and still be in a position to fire if you suddenly find yourself too close to a threat to punch out and pick up your sights properly. Furthermore, if you should, for some reason, find yourself grappled with an assailant (not a good plan, but shit happens) I would say it’s likely going to be more practical to get pistol shots into him than shotgun at bad breath range. None of this is at all intended as an argument in favour of the pistol as a better choice overall.
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This is where that training comes into play. If I was a bad guy in your scenario, I would wait till you come out looking for me. I’d light your eyes up with my 200 lumen tac light, blinding you for up to 5 min and have my way with you, maybe your ol lady depending on how cute she is. OR you’d prolly not “pie the corner” and I’d grab your gun, push it up under your neck and make you shoot yourself in the face / head.,another easily done maneuvor. (BTW, NEVER try to pull a gun away from someone. They have the grip and you will pull the trigger on yourself. Always push the gun back into the person and make them shoot themselves if you find yourself in this shitty position) Yeah, I know I sound like a fucking arm chair commando but this shit is real y’all.
Here’s the cool part about the shotgun. Any self respecting shotgun operator will mount a single point bungee sling on his / her shot gun. ** do not put a regular sling on it, those will get in the way of racking rounds ok** Now, If a person grabs the shot gun because I was a dumb ass and want to clear my house, I have two hands on the thing and it is attached via the sling. I can simply push the barrel into your teeth, knocking them down your throat or I can stab you with the barrel. (some shotties have that nasty breaching attachment that will make some nasty marks on a mofo) Or I can jerk the weapon back and butt stroke your ass. OR I can use the gun as a makeshift shield to keep you at distance. TONS of options. Plus I can shoot from the hip just like a pistol. One thing about shooting up close and personal… the shotgun goes boom assuming theres a round in the pipe. On a semi auto pistol, if you rack the slide back just a tad,which is likely during something like this, you take the round out of battery and render the fireing mechanism null and void. Again, arm chair commando shit but it has happened. Stick to your hunker down plan and this will be a moot point but I digress. [/quote]
I appreciate your taking the time to impute a little knowledge to me. However, I gotta tell you, whether intended or not, the condescension comes off a little thick in this post. It’s possible that you mistook my admission that my knowledge and training in tactical firearms handing has some room for expansion (which will always be true, regardless) for an invitation to speak to me like a bitch.
Smiley face emoticons, IMO, do not really move allusions to casually kicking a guy’s ass and raping his wife in his own home over into the realm of friendly conversation, even under modified internet etiquette standards.
That said, I think you make some pretty good points and I really do appreciate the insight, even if I find the tone a little off putting.