Hindus Fleeing the Taliban

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
orion wrote:

Some Pashtun tribesmen did and they were allied to the US. They would have handed them over.

this is bs, the Taliban were not our allies. Our allies were what was to become the Northern Alliance. The Taliban were Afghan refugees from Pakistan who returned to Afghanistan in 1996.

But you did not reply to my main point: What should we do about the Saudis and spread of Wahabism? Attack Saudi Arabia and create a bigger problem, or let the fanatics who oppose the Monarchy take over and create a bigger problem?[/quote]

I do not know nor do I care.

Not killing any random A-rab would probably help though, even if it would sell more weapons or gets you a senate seat.

I know, that requires to adopt some rather arbitrary judgment calls concerning the value of human life but I think someone rooted in a somewhat Christian culture should get the gist of it.

[quote]orion wrote:

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mt 5:17-20

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

James 1:17

Both NT.[/quote]

He says he comes NOT to destroy. And he’s talking about law, not heads.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Sloth wrote:

You quoted the answer.

Not really.

So God wants his followers to kill Cannanites? And which followers, Jews, Christians? Who was the audience for the quotes above?[/quote]

Well, there were no Christians.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Sloth wrote:

You quoted the answer.

Not really.

So God wants his followers to kill Cannanites? And which followers, Jews, Christians? Who was the audience for the quotes above?[/quote]

God wanted the Israelites to drive out the Canaanites beyond the boundaries of the Levant and kill the ones that remained.

This mandate was included along with the 10 Commandments and all of the other ceremonial and civil laws given to the Israelites at Sinai, so when Jesus or any of the Jewish leaders of the day mention “The Law of Moses” or words to that effect, they’re including everything, not just the 10 Commandments.

The reason Christians don’t take those mandates literally is because we believe they applied to the Israelites in that particular time in redemptive history - the history that culminated in and was fulfilled in Jesus.

So, the destruction of the Canaanites was supposed to be a typology of the destruction of all of unbelieving man by God through Jesus at the day of judgment at some point in the future.

You can read through Chapters 7 and 19 of the Westminster Confession or Article 25 of the Belgic Confession which are a basic Protestant summary of this.

The Institutes of the Christian Religion is also helpful:
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes.iv.xii.html

[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
I’m talking about the first half of the Christian holy book. You’re not suggesting that we can ignore certain directives in the first half of The Bible as we see fit, are you?

According to your definition earlier in this thread, that would make you a “Fake Christian”.

Perhaps you mean me? I stand by what you imply. There is no directive in the New Testament where God decrees we can jettison the barbarism in the Old Testament once we’ve found “civilization”.

I refrained from mentioning Christianity in this thread because it is about Muslim violence.

There should be no doubt that I would ever denounce one religion over any other, but Islam in particular is a religion that nurtures a culture of 14th century barbarism. Christianity and its atrocities has had its teeth and claws filed down by Western reason, Islam continues to hold on to Bronze Age myths as fact.

I was just using that as an example since religiously sanctioned violence is not exclusive to Islam.

Many Western Muslims are like the modern Christians in that the barbarism of their faith has been tamed by modern civilization.

Remember though, 400 years ago, Christians were burning young women at the stake for being suspected of witchcraft, so in the year 2400, we can expect there to be Islamic televangelists and dancing singing vegetable Qur’an cartoons. ;)[/quote]

Maybe when we drop PC ideals of blind respect for religion. The reason Christianity is no longer as powerful or evil as it once was is because people applied critical thought to it. Extreme liberals, and for some strange reason conservatives, have adopted this dogma that inquiry into religion cannot be applied on the grounds of religious tolerance.

I for one don’t think we can afford to do this anymore, not when a sizable portion of the Middle East supports suicide bombing. We can’t pretend these people are uneducated fools who have social-economic factors playing into their decision to go hurtling into a building at 400mph. The common trend is for these people to have university degrees and to be middle to upper class.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
orion wrote:

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Mt 5:17-20

Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows. 18 He chose to give us birth through the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of all he created.

James 1:17

Both NT.

He says he comes NOT to destroy. And he’s talking about law, not heads.
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But that laws contained an awful lot of stoning.