High T, Feeling Bad

Pharma TRT
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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
conservativedog wrote:

"I recommend cialis. The research companies would carry the generic Tadalafil, and it it is perhaps best to get the liquid form.

In case you were unaware there is research that shows taking just a small amount daily can boost your testosterone by reducing the conversion from testosterone to estrogen. They are also discovering that it helps the heart and you can read accounts from those that lift weights and swear by the boost it gives there as well. Depending on your health it can make you feel like you could do squats all day. Gives a good pump in the bedroom & gym."

I did some research on Tadalafil as you recommended. I the source had it at 25mg/mL 30ml bottle for $30. Any recommendations on dosing? Everyone here seems to be going with 10 mg to start. Good idea? Does this start to work on day one? Another question; the source had this disclaimer:

WARNING Tadalafil is a very potent chemical. This product is NOT for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research/laboratory use only. This product is NOT in a sterile solution and is NOT to be injected…

Do I need to be concerned about the Sterile solution part of this? I understand that it does not get injected.

Thanks![/quote]

If it comes in a liquid form it is ready to go. You will get same day results. You can take a very small amount to start off with. 10mg would be good unless you a giant.

You can experiment & pour about a nickel to quarter (coin) size amount of that in a tablespoon. Take it and rinse it down with water, swish water around your mouth good to ensure you have swallowed it all and wait 20-30 minutes.

Now search google for gladiator movies and enjoy.

The best time for lifting would be about 2 hours later, you should feel good. Listen to your body do what feels best for you.

If that was not enough, try a little more the next day. Let me stress more is not necessarily better so find the least amount that works best for you.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
conservativedog wrote:

"I recommend cialis. The research companies would carry the generic Tadalafil, and it it is perhaps best to get the liquid form.

In case you were unaware there is research that shows taking just a small amount daily can boost your testosterone by reducing the conversion from testosterone to estrogen. They are also discovering that it helps the heart and you can read accounts from those that lift weights and swear by the boost it gives there as well. Depending on your health it can make you feel like you could do squats all day. Gives a good pump in the bedroom & gym."

I did some research on Tadalafil as you recommended. I the source had it at 25mg/mL 30ml bottle for $30. Any recommendations on dosing? Everyone here seems to be going with 10 mg to start. Good idea? Does this start to work on day one? Another question; the source had this disclaimer:

WARNING Tadalafil is a very potent chemical. This product is NOT for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research/laboratory use only. This product is NOT in a sterile solution and is NOT to be injected…

Do I need to be concerned about the Sterile solution part of this? I understand that it does not get injected.

Thanks![/quote]

If it comes in a liquid form it is ready to go. You will get same day results. You can take a very small amount to start off with. 10mg would be good unless you a giant.

You can experiment & pour about a nickel to quarter (coin) size amount of that in a tablespoon. Take it and rinse it down with water, swish water around your mouth good to ensure you have swallowed it all and wait 20-30 minutes.

Now search google for gladiator movies and enjoy.

The best time for lifting would be about 2 hours later, you should feel good. Listen to your body do what feels best for you.

If that was not enough, try a little more the next day. Let me stress more is not necessarily better so find the least amount that works best for you.
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I received the Tadalafil today in the mail. So I have the dosing right, it is 25mg/ml and the eye dropper has a .05 ML and 1.0 ML mark on it. if I use the .50 ML line I should be getting 12.5 mg right? Hard to believe I work for an engineering company! I just dont want to over do it. I think I may keep my female rat away for the first on-round. Once he rises to the occasion, will everything go back to normal right away?

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
conservativedog wrote:

"I recommend cialis. The research companies would carry the generic Tadalafil, and it it is perhaps best to get the liquid form.

In case you were unaware there is research that shows taking just a small amount daily can boost your testosterone by reducing the conversion from testosterone to estrogen. They are also discovering that it helps the heart and you can read accounts from those that lift weights and swear by the boost it gives there as well. Depending on your health it can make you feel like you could do squats all day. Gives a good pump in the bedroom & gym."

I did some research on Tadalafil as you recommended. I the source had it at 25mg/mL 30ml bottle for $30. Any recommendations on dosing? Everyone here seems to be going with 10 mg to start. Good idea? Does this start to work on day one? Another question; the source had this disclaimer:

WARNING Tadalafil is a very potent chemical. This product is NOT for human use and can be harmful if ingested. This product is for research/laboratory use only. This product is NOT in a sterile solution and is NOT to be injected…

Do I need to be concerned about the Sterile solution part of this? I understand that it does not get injected.

Thanks![/quote]

If it comes in a liquid form it is ready to go. You will get same day results. You can take a very small amount to start off with. 10mg would be good unless you a giant.

You can experiment & pour about a nickel to quarter (coin) size amount of that in a tablespoon. Take it and rinse it down with water, swish water around your mouth good to ensure you have swallowed it all and wait 20-30 minutes.

Now search google for gladiator movies and enjoy.

The best time for lifting would be about 2 hours later, you should feel good. Listen to your body do what feels best for you.

If that was not enough, try a little more the next day. Let me stress more is not necessarily better so find the least amount that works best for you.
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I received the Tadalafil today in the mail. So I have the dosing right, it is 25mg/ml and the eye dropper has a .05 ML and 1.0 ML mark on it. if I use the .50 ML line I should be getting 12.5 mg right? Hard to believe I work for an engineering company! I just dont want to over do it. I think I may keep my female rat away for the first on-round. Once he rises to the occasion, will everything go back to normal right away?
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Tadalafil/cialis stays in system longer then viagra but after first hour and half any side effects should subside such as flush face, stuffy nose. Start small and listen to your body.

The work-out benefits should remain for most of a day:

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SIDE NOTE:
I just completed my first 10K; 50:39. Not too bad for a 47 year old has-been-never-was trying to drag 210 lbs that far. Feelin kinda good about that achevement!

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
SIDE NOTE:
I just completed my first 10K; 50:39. Not too bad for a 47 year old has-been-never-was trying to drag 210 lbs that far. Feelin kinda good about that achevement![/quote]

Congratulations, that’s an accomplishment to encourage others to do more cardio and not just lift.

Did the Tadalafil work out for you?

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

Congratulations, that’s an accomplishment to encourage others to do more cardio and not just lift.

Did the Tadalafil work out for you?
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I think the Tadalafil helped some.

I was at 12mls and thought about upping it but remembered what you said about more is not better. I don’t know about anyone else but the fear of having a 4 hr. stiffy was all I could think about.

Thanks for your help!

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

Congratulations, that’s an accomplishment to encourage others to do more cardio and not just lift.

Did the Tadalafil work out for you?
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I think the Tadalafil helped some. I was noticeably firmer and fuller. I would like to be able to go a little longer but I think that was some of the problem. I would get to the point where I was about to cum and try and back it off. Then the little guy with the helmet on would just give up.

I was at 12mls and thought about upping it but remembered what you said about more is not better. I don’t know about anyone else but the fear of having a 4 hr. stiffy was all I could think about.

Thanks for your help! [/quote]

If you have trouble lasting you can always concentrate on Whoopi or Joyless Behar.

Everyone is different but I’m guessing that four hour erection is a joke. I would up my dose incrementally and I’m told it works best on an empty stomach.

Found this online :

“Though the makers of erectile dysfunction drugs list prolonged, unwanted erections as a potential side effect, urologists have their doubts. Priapism, a rare condition defined by prolonged erections in the absence of sexual arousal, is associated with certain blood diseases, hypertension, and recreational drug use. No matter what its cause, priapism can be dangerous if left untreated. A man who has a painful erection for more than 12 hours is at high risk for permanent damage.”

"Under normal conditions, a man gets an erection when his nervous system triggers the dilation of the arteries that feed into his corpora cavernosa, spongy tissues that girdle the urethra along the length of the penis. These fill with blood and harden, as do both the spongy tissue that encapsulates the urethra and the head of the penis, called the glans. This constricts the veins leaving the penis, temporarily maintaining an erection.

So, what causes an erection that won’t go away? There are two types of priapism, non-ischemic and ischemic. Non-ischemic priapism usually results from an injury to the penis or perineum. If an artery that feeds into the corpora cavernosa ruptures, blood might spill into the erectile tissues. While blood can now flow both in and out, the outflow is not sufficient to shrink the erection. As a result, a man with non-ischemic priapism will have a semirigid penis for hours on end. Because the circulation of blood has not been impeded, non-ischemic priapism doesn’t hurt and often clears up on its own without causing long-term damage. Treatment usually consists of little more than an ice pack.

In the case of ischemic priapism, blood flows into the penis but doesn’t flow out. The loss of circulation deprives the corpora cavernosa of oxygen and causes a painful, rigid erection. If left untreated, the loss of oxygen can damage erectile tissues, cause the formation of scar tissue, and lead to a permanent loss of function."

Have you read about Cabergoline, which is also a research item? This is a small amount of info from wikipedia:

“… it has a possible recreational use in reducing or eliminating the male refractory period, thereby allowing men to experience multiple ejaculatory orgasms in rapid succession, and at least one scientific study supports those speculations.[7] It is also used by bodybuilders to control gynecomastia caused by elevated prolactin levels through the use of anabolic steroids such as nandrolone and trenbolone.”

In other words you can lose all your “precious bodily fluids” and have your gal talking about you to all her garden club friends.

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[quote]Kaynon311 wrote:
When you start taking it, it will take a little time for the liver to start clearing the estrogen from your body. Be patient. If you hit the “sweet spot”, but things go downhill from there, you need to lower the dosage. This is MUCH MUCH easier with the liquid than the tablets.[/quote]

KSMAN and KAYNON311
You guy got right with your advice on research chemicals and the anastrozole. It’s been about three weeks and I am starting to really feel a turn around.

I expect to take some crap for this but I am going to bump up my test for about 8 weeks. I know we aren’t talking TRT anymore but I’m looking for a little lift in the gym and overall appearance.

Thanks once again to all who have helped thus far.

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:

[quote]Kaynon311 wrote:
When you start taking it, it will take a little time for the liver to start clearing the estrogen from your body. Be patient. If you hit the “sweet spot”, but things go downhill from there, you need to lower the dosage. This is MUCH MUCH easier with the liquid than the tablets.[/quote]

KSMAN and KAYNON311
You guy got right with your advice on research chemicals and the anastrozole. It’s been about three weeks and I am starting to really feel a turn around.

I expect to take some crap for this but I am going to bump up my test for about 8 weeks. I know we aren’t talking TRT anymore but I’m looking for a little lift in the gym and overall appearance.

Thanks once again to all who have helped thus far.[/quote]

For once you have finished blasting…

Your dose for TRT is still too high and so is your anastroole dose. You are going to get health problems eventually due to that.

You should reduce your T dose, hopefully to the point where you can eliminate the arimidex, or at least drastically reduce it.

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Has anyone had a low sex drive yet still wake up with a stiffy? I just wanted some input for others before I write it off to “Just being busy with life”.

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Can someone PM me regarding Cabergoline? I need a little help!

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Has anyone had a low sex drive yet still wake up with a stiffy? I just wanted some input for others before I write it off to “Just being busy with life”.[/quote]

Negative. I’d say when my TRT is really working, my waking up stiff directly translates to a higher sex drive! If I don’t wake up with MW – I usually know I’m in for a shitty day.

Do you experience highs and lows on TRT also? I notice sometimes I feel like a beast and I can go really long periods of feeling like I’m on nothing at all…l. Feels like there are small windows of time to get with the wife, or else I have to fall back on things like Cialis – but find they don’t work at all if your T is low!

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Has anyone had a low sex drive yet still wake up with a stiffy? I just wanted some input for others before I write it off to “Just being busy with life”.[/quote]

Had your DHT or E2 checked lately? Low DHT or low E2 can affect libido. Or it could just be the common things like alcohol, stress, busy, etc, etc.

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Can someone PM me regarding Cabergoline? I need a little help![/quote]

This is also a research chemical. Although I’ve heard varying reports of its efficacy in liquid form. Never tried it myself. There is also the option of importing, but you’ll be accepting the legal implications if you go that route.

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Has anyone had a low sex drive yet still wake up with a stiffy?[/quote]

Yes, that happens to me a lot. Formidable nocturnal erections but no sex drive when awake.

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[quote]seekonk wrote:

[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Has anyone had a low sex drive yet still wake up with a stiffy?[/quote]

Yes, that happens to me a lot. Formidable nocturnal erections but no sex drive when awake.
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That sounds like it could be the result of depression or some other Psych reason. Sounds like it wouldn’t hurt to change the mental oil once and awhile by seeing a Psychologist to explore any issues that may be underlying. Many of us have physical problems, always coupled with emotional or stress related issues. Sometimes they go hand in hand and feed each other.

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[quote]seekonk wrote:
Yes, that happens to me a lot. Formidable nocturnal erections but no sex drive when awake.
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So have you tried to do anything? I was wanted to try Cabergoline but I hear finding something that is not bunk can be hard. I was hoping someone could PM me and get me going in the right direction but it looks like I’m going to just grab my balls and jump. I’m going to try mpresearchsupply; hope I’m not wasting my money and or putting my health at risk.

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Cabergoline does nothing for me.

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[quote]seekonk wrote:
Cabergoline does nothing for me. [/quote]
Wow, I heard and read a lot of good things about it. I know everyones different but is there any chance that you got some bunk? That’s one of the issues I’m having, trying to find a good CR company. My order is placed and should be here in the next 5 days. From what I hear it takes about 10 days to kick in. I will try to keep you guys posted.

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Does anyone know what the story is with MP Research Supplies? I placed an order and didn’t get a UPS tracking number. I emailed and called but no response. When I Googled about orders and getting my supplies, some recent posts came up that no one is getting their orders and no emails are being returned.

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[quote]doublelung84 wrote:
Does anyone know what the story is with MP Research Supplies? I placed an order and didn’t get a UPS tracking number. I emailed and called but no response. When I Googled about orders and getting my supplies, some recent posts came up that no one is getting their orders and no emails are being returned.[/quote]

How long ago was this?