After reading the “Evils of Fruit” discussion, and after hearing so many sincere and health-conscious individuals decry the evils of HFCS, I want to know why everyone is under the impression that HFCS is worse than “regular old” sugar or “natural” sugar or sugar “like grandma had”.
It’s probably equally bad for you.
Anyway, since I was about to start a new thread concerning HFCS i’ll just add to this one. I HAD NO IDEA KETCHUP HAD HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP. Sorry for caps.
Is there any ketchup (brand or otherwise) that does not have HFCS? I don’t OD on ketchup but I do like 1/2-1 tablespoon in the morning on my eggs. Any other replacement to put on eggs?
Thanks guys.
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?
Its basically a made made sugar.
Not to mention its fructose. The body does not break it down or use it in the same way it does with glucose.
Most likely the thing about HFCS that makes it the suck of all suck is its ubiquitousness…it’s in EVERYTHING, even things that don’t taste “sugary”.
As for ketchup, I buy the trader joes ketchup, no HFCS, I’m sure there are others, just read labels.
Heres a summary of whats wrong with it from an article I found online;
-Fructose is absorbed primarily in the jejunum before metabolism in the liver. Fructose is converted to fatty acids by the liver at a greater rate than is glucose.
-A study of 25 patients with functional bowel disease showed that pronounced gastrointestinal distress may be provoked by malabsorption of small amounts of fructose.
-In studies with rats, fructose consistently produces higher kidney calcium concentrations than glucose. Fructose generally induces greater urinary concentrations of phosphorus and magnesium and lowered urinary pH compared with glucose.
-Because it is metabolized by the liver, fructose does not cause the pancreas to release insulin the way it normally does. Fructose converts to fat more than any other sugar. This may be one of the reasons Americans continue to get fatter.
-Studies on the Maillard reaction indicate that fructose may contribute to diabetic complications more readily than glucose.
I also read online that baby food contains NO HFCS at all, but food aimed at children does? Perhaps the food manufacturers know something we don’t?
[quote]irishpowerhouse wrote:
Its basically a made made sugar.
Not to mention its fructose. The body does not break it down or use it in the same way it does with glucose. [/quote]
Assuming you mean “man-made”, that’s not an argument against it.
And sucrose is 1/2 fructose, 1/2 glucose just like HFCS.
[quote]brancron wrote:
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?[/quote]
Wtf? I want to avoid HFCS in general. I wouldn’t want to use regular sugar either. You’re weird.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE???
Sucrose (table sugar) is a disaccharide of fructose and glucose: 50% of each. High-fructose corn syrup is what they call regular corn syrup (100% glucose) that has been modified to the level of approximately half fructose, half glucose, so that it tastes like sugar (because it’s pretty much the same thing!!!).
For one, it is more taxing on the liver. Sucrose (regular sugar) is absorbed directly by the small intestine, but fructose is not, and goes to the liver to be broken down to make glycogen.
As for the ketchup and things, certified organic products cannot have HFCS in them. (At least for now. There is some pressure to make organic HFCS which is a complete joke.)
[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
brancron wrote:
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?
Wtf? I want to avoid HFCS in general. I wouldn’t want to use regular sugar either. You’re weird.
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I started this thread not help you find the ketchup of your dreams, I started it to hear people’s opinions on the health effects of HFCS compared to those of regular sugar sources.
[quote]nycsoccax wrote:
brancron wrote:
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?
Wtf? I want to avoid HFCS in general. I wouldn’t want to use regular sugar either. You’re weird.
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Agreed. Even regular sugar is something to avoid. It really is “empty” calories without nutritional benefit.
You could make everything from scratch. Then you’d know exactly what’s in it. Bottom line though I believe hfcs’ are poison to human’s and the FDA is at fault for allowing companies to use it just to save a buck.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
nycsoccax wrote:
brancron wrote:
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?
Wtf? I want to avoid HFCS in general. I wouldn’t want to use regular sugar either. You’re weird.
Agreed. Even regular sugar is something to avoid. It really is “empty” calories without nutritional benefit.[/quote]
Not even for energy? I know the body can turn other nutrients into energy, but the amount of energy people get from drinking too much koolaid seems to be waaayyyy more than say a ketogenic or anabolic diet. I may crash later but everybody needs to sleep, whats wrong with a little excess sugar if it doesn’t turn to fat? vs. HFCS which is becoming notorious for turning into fat.
So far it seems that we’ve got nothin’ on HFCS.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
nycsoccax wrote:
brancron wrote:
^ Why do you want to avoid HFCS in your ketchup? Would you settle for regular sugar instead? WHYYYYY?
Wtf? I want to avoid HFCS in general. I wouldn’t want to use regular sugar either. You’re weird.
Agreed. Even regular sugar is something to avoid. It really is “empty” calories without nutritional benefit.
Not even for energy? I know the body can turn other nutrients into energy, but the amount of energy people get from drinking too much koolaid seems to be waaayyyy more than say a ketogenic or anabolic diet.
I may crash later but everybody needs to sleep, whats wrong with a little excess sugar if it doesn’t turn to fat? vs. HFCS which is becoming notorious for turning into fat.[/quote]
If you want carbs for energy eat a piece of fruit or whole wheat bread or even pasta or potato. I have no problems with carbs for energy but sugar drinks carry anything good with them. Get your calories from nutritious foods.
Edit: If you are really young and active you can probably drink all the koolaid you want. Doesn’t work that way for me anymore.
[quote]brancron wrote:
irishpowerhouse wrote:
Its basically a made made sugar.
Not to mention its fructose. The body does not break it down or use it in the same way it does with glucose.
Assuming you mean “man-made”, that’s not an argument against it.
And sucrose is 1/2 fructose, 1/2 glucose just like HFCS.[/quote]
When I say man made, I mean the process of how it is made. It goes through alot of processes to make it last longer etc basically making it more modified.
[quote]brancron wrote:
So far it seems that we’ve got nothin’ on HFCS.[/quote]
While it is debateable if it is worse than regular sugar it still has no place in our regular diets.
Candy is an occasional treat. It should not be a staple in our diets.
HFCS affects us exactly the same as regular sugar (sucrose). Both are bad in excess.
And fruit is good.
'Nuff said.
Should a low carber ditch fruit? This is interesting. I’m low carb and eat fruit because I like to take shits. Plus I love the way nectarines taste. Mornings only though.