I’m just wondering why some people say high free T gives them issues. My free T is sky high and I don’t really feel any different. I’m wondering what issues or symptoms they are talking about. PKNY … You have mentioned this more than once…
I have low SHBG, so when I get to total T of 900-1000 my free T is 3-3.5x the top of the range.
I hit that easily on 140mg / week, it takes a lot of guys one gram of T or more per week to hit
that level. I have to keep my dose low, 87mg per week to stay around 4-500ish total and i’m still over the top of the range by a good 20%.
When I’m on a blast, usually 500-750T + Masteron I feel like total shit.
I even feel like shit, and lose the benefits of TRT when my free T is a little higher than the top of the range on my cruise stage.
On the plus side, I make sick gains in the gym with that small amount of gear.
I’ve tried for years to increase SHBG, but no luck. I think it’s a genetic thing.
Guys with a decent SHBG#'s 23-35ish seem to be able to tolerate and use larger amounts of gear and feel fantastic. Wish I was one of them!
[quote]PKNY wrote:
I have low SHBG, so when I get to total T of 900-1000 my free T is 3-3.5x the top of the range.
I hit that easily on 140mg / week, it takes a lot of guys one gram of T or more per week to hit
that level. I have to keep my dose low, 87mg per week to stay around 4-500ish total and i’m still over the top of the range by a good 20%.
When I’m on a blast, usually 500-750T + Masteron I feel like total shit.
I even feel like shit, and lose the benefits of TRT when my free T is a little higher than the top of the range on my cruise stage.
On the plus side, I make sick gains in the gym with that small amount of gear.
I’ve tried for years to increase SHBG, but no luck. I think it’s a genetic thing.
Guys with a decent SHBG#'s 23-35ish seem to be able to tolerate and use larger amounts of gear and feel fantastic. Wish I was one of them!
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Hey PKNY
Do you notoce erection issues when you free t is very high also? Or you just feel shit in terms of mood?
Thanks
With high free T I lose most of the benefits of TRT.
Weak erections, even if I take a V, it’s difficult to climax, shit mood, anxiety.
Finding out you have low T, or knowing it most of your life you would think the more
total and free T you had the better. In a lot of cases it’s not true. I had a hard time lowering my dose
psychologically, but once I did the whole thing clicked for me. I’ve read many
threads of guys with the same experience.
thanks for the reply. I’m actually going to lower my dose also. At the moment at 110mg a week and 1mg adex a week i have around 1000 total t and top of the range free t and dont feel the best in terms of erections and have some anxiety some times.
Thanks for all the replies. I keep my total and free at the top of the range. I might try to lower a bit and see how I feel.
Guns,
It ironic isn’t it ? You go on T, get your labs and see really high free T, take the time to
balance your E2 and don’t feel any better, fact you may feel a little worse.
I remember thinking at one point maybe T doesn’t work on me.
Stupid me thought, hmmm…I must need more T.
The more T I took, the stronger I got, but my mood, libido and wood situation got worse.
My situation was made harder because Adex doesn’t agree with me, but that’s another
story.
How much T are you using ?
Do you have lab #'s ?
Are you using an AI at all ?
PKNY,
I really don’t feel bad in fact I feel pretty good.
I’m the typical bodybuilder who tries to perfect the wheel (always searching for something better) . I’m on .8cc Test Cyp 200mg. EW divided into 2. Adex 1.0mg EW divided by 2. It keeps Total around 1100 and FREE around 40. This keeps E2 at about 38 and HCT just barely within range. I’m going down to .7cc weekly divided by 2 and keep Adex the same. I know E2 is a little on the high side I’m moving my Adex up a bit.
You talk about Test prop. How can you get that here in the U.S.?? I didn’t think pharmacies can get it. Maybe compounded??
I hear ya on the constant tweak of protocol. I’m always searching
for ways to improve mine.
I do use Prop, swear by the stuff, less sides, can adjust dose up and down
faster due to it’s short half life and libido is off the hook.
I’ve run into a few guys that we’re able to get it RX’d from their Doc
and filled by a compound pharmacy. I get mine from the dark side though.