High Expectations

And that’s not a thread derailment. Vegeta has the highest of expectations. He’s the prince of all Saiyans…

[quote]Kakarat wrote:
And that’s not a thread derailment. Vegeta has the highest of expectations. He’s the prince of all Saiyans…[/quote]

Its called battle of the gods, it came out in Japan a couple months ago I believe, might have to wait a while till it hits dvd or try searching on google for a torrent.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
And there’s other kids I know who’s a filthy rich brat and is only in medical school because she was in the pre medical program and basically “cheated” the system. That kid had to pay for a private tutor for her freaking MCAT… does she really deserve to be in there… [/quote]

This right here.

If you don’t learn the system (any system, all systems, whatever), you’ll pretty much always get passed up by the people who cheat the system.

My advice:
Learn the system(s).
Learn to cheat the system.
ALSO be really good at what you do.

I got screwed over a number of times because I didn’t play the system right. It took awhile before I learned that lesson.

Plus, make sure you’re clear where you draw your lines. There’s a huge difference between making yourself look good by disguising your faults, and making yourself good by smearing others. You can play a system without violating moral/ethical code.

When you’ve figured out the system AND you’re really good at what you do, you can accomplish a lot, have a lot of influence, and make something of a difference not just in your actions, but in the directions/trends you set.

EDIT: I’m not saying you should cheat the system. I’m just saying you should know how to.[/quote]

It’s honestly surprising that medical schools can’t see past somes people’s bull shit. One of the kid’s the got into my University’s medical school didn’t even take his science elective courses until his senior year to prevent them from lowering his GPA. Whereas, I took ALL my science electives earlier so I could have an easy senior year.

Oh well, it was ultimately my fault for not getting in this year for not really understanding the application process. I know how it works now and will hopefully get better results this time.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
I just graduated with a degree in Acct/MIS and I had a average GPA 3.0. The Job hunt(particularly career hunt) sucks Ballz.[/quote]
Still wondering if you lift.[/quote]
I never noticed his post

[quote]cstratton2 wrote:

[quote]Kakarat wrote:
And that’s not a thread derailment. Vegeta has the highest of expectations. He’s the prince of all Saiyans…[/quote]

Its called battle of the gods, it came out in Japan a couple months ago I believe, might have to wait a while till it hits dvd or try searching on google for a torrent. [/quote]
It’s not dubbed or subbed yet

[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:
And there’s other kids I know who’s a filthy rich brat and is only in medical school because she was in the pre medical program and basically “cheated” the system. That kid had to pay for a private tutor for her freaking MCAT… does she really deserve to be in there… [/quote]

This right here.

If you don’t learn the system (any system, all systems, whatever), you’ll pretty much always get passed up by the people who cheat the system.

My advice:
Learn the system(s).
Learn to cheat the system.
ALSO be really good at what you do.

I got screwed over a number of times because I didn’t play the system right. It took awhile before I learned that lesson.

Plus, make sure you’re clear where you draw your lines. There’s a huge difference between making yourself look good by disguising your faults, and making yourself good by smearing others. You can play a system without violating moral/ethical code.

When you’ve figured out the system AND you’re really good at what you do, you can accomplish a lot, have a lot of influence, and make something of a difference not just in your actions, but in the directions/trends you set.

EDIT: I’m not saying you should cheat the system. I’m just saying you should know how to.[/quote]

It’s honestly surprising that medical schools can’t see past somes people’s bull shit. One of the kid’s the got into my University’s medical school didn’t even take his science elective courses until his senior year to prevent them from lowering his GPA. Whereas, I took ALL my science electives earlier so I could have an easy senior year.

Oh well, it was ultimately my fault for not getting in this year for not really understanding the application process. I know how it works now and will hopefully get better results this time. [/quote]
That path always seemed very bullshit-laden to me. Glad I’m not pursuing anything in the medical field.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I’d like to discuss the merit of having high expectations as pertains to perpetual advancement. I can’t really enjoy things I normally do anymore unless I feel that I’m making something of myself. I feel angry, disappointed, and frustrated with my current progress. I have this relentless hunger that isn’t being satiated. My needs as a man aren’t being met, and frankly, I don’t feel very manly as a result. This purpose of this thread is to engage in intimate discussion on the matters of growing up and obtaining the future you envision for yourself.[/quote]

I went through a very similar stretch a few years ago. Just for background I’m 27. At 18 I join the USMC straight out of high school and not to sound arrogant, but I did very well. It suited me. I decided to get out (still something I struggle with) and pursue other things. It took me a couple of years to really adjust. University was a joke (degree in accounting). The “work” was not work and I never felt challenged. I missed the Corps. a lot. My training suffered and I was in a funk bad. Not depression, but just not myself.

Eventually I just got back to my roots. I started enjoying the moment more than worrying about the future. Started training for the “fun” of it again. Probably most importantly I accepted that I’m where I am because of the choices I’ve made and I will get to where I want to be when I get there. No amount of internal stress will change that. At 27 I’m basically 6 months into what I think (still don’t know) could be my career path. Most of my peers are 5-6 years into their careers and have multiple degrees. It’s a game of catch-up, but that can be fun too. Its motivation to keep on keeping on so to speak. I will outperform my peers, period.

Life is full of change, you have to embrace it or it will steamroll you.
[/quote]
I love change.

[quote]optheta wrote:
I just graduated with a degree in Acct/MIS and I had a average GPA 3.0. The Job hunt(particularly career hunt) sucks Ballz.[/quote]
I’ve learned very well that it does indeed suck balls. I know I’d feel crappy if I didn’t have a degree.

Also another note, I got a call from Robert Half Technology yesterday. I thought they would never notice me. The fact that a technology company that big saw my resume and decided to call makes me feel pretty good. The woman that called sounded hot too. Compounding that with the job that I have now, I’m very appreciative. This summer is already infinitely better than the last one.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
Ah, youth…[/quote]
Too much talking?[/quote]

Ah, I don’t know…

I don’t in any way mean this in a derogatory way – in fact, it’s kind of nice to see.

But, yeah, so much intellectualization, impatience, certainty that you are “destined for more,” concern over and comparisons with the achievements of others around you…

In short, all the stuff that real life as an adult has a way of knocking out of you.

And yet, those things are perhaps the fuel that allow you to accomplish whatever it is that you ultimately do achieve.

In any case, “Ah, youth…”

I guess I said that more nostalgically than anything else, because most of us old guys have been there, done that, and long since worn out the t-shirt.

[/quote]
I really respect you, and I appreciate your input. I’m well aware of the “life beating it out of you” doctrine. I’ve observed it my whole life, and I’m starting to feel its blows. I don’t want to come across as someone that feels entitled to the universe. I just want to illustrate where I’m coming from. I’m more than willing to fight for my goals and dreams. I don’t care how many times I get down. I won’t stay down. That’s not me. If I can post-reflect and incite a response, I know that something happened whether positive or negative. I want to live a story of value and provide comfort for my family.

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
It’s like I know what I want to do, but at the same time, I can’t commit to one idea. I can’t be very specific as of yet. There’s also the matter of entrepreneurial and creative endeavors. I want to compose music, create cinematics and stories, etc.[/quote]

I recommend sticking to one until you’ve accomplished what you want out of it, then moving forward with the next. You can always come back. Dabbling is fun, but at the end of the day, it turns out to really not be that satisfying.

But don’t paralyze yourself by worrying about picking the wrong one first.

Once you have some bigger accomplishments, you can then capitalize on them in the future and use them to set yourself up for the next thing you want to do. Even if you flop at the new thing, you can still fall back on those previous accomplishments and go do something else.

Probably my biggest frustration is actually achieving my goals and then wondering “what’s next?”. The nice thing about many jobs though is that you can just sort of coast in that state for awhile, just doing what’s asked of you… at least after you’ve accomplished a few notable, significant things.

Of course, in life right now, I’m not sure what to do next, and it’s wearing on me. I feel like the term “has been” applies a bit.

And this whole “be happy with just being”, I’m struggling with that. When a whole bunch of things can be improved, and I know I can improve them, and I realize that I’m not doing anything about it… it feels bad.

But what I can say for sure is it’s very very valuable to stop the dabbling and actually accomplish a few things.[/quote]

Yeah I’m still working out how to get everything down at a useful rate. Have a lot of plans. Going to make it all work. It will work out. I’m certain. I project I’ll have my first cinematic done by spring break and have my first selection of languages learned (to at least intermediate fluency at low range) within 4-5 years. I’ve already made music, and everyone that’s heard really likes it and thinks I should make an album. I need to get Finale so I can start making classical-oriented music. Lifting is not something I ever really worry about. I’ll reach my goals there no problem both strongman and powerlifting. I’ll start planning finances for journey abroad soon. Hope to do that within the next 2-4 years. Obviously get my degree (which I’m behind on due to starting out exercise science). That will happen in 2016 along with completing my minor. I’ll probably do my first expedition between ages 24-26 (maybe). I’m not too concerned about my career options because I know I have a lot of options that will depend on other factors as well (location, work benefits, business model, salary, etc.). I don’t like the idea of dabbling. I’ve already accomplished some things.

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
Ah, youth…[/quote]
Too much talking?[/quote]

Ah, I don’t know…

I don’t in any way mean this in a derogatory way – in fact, it’s kind of nice to see.

But, yeah, so much intellectualization, impatience, certainty that you are “destined for more,” concern over and comparisons with the achievements of others around you…

In short, all the stuff that real life as an adult has a way of knocking out of you.

And yet, those things are perhaps the fuel that allow you to accomplish whatever it is that you ultimately do achieve.

In any case, “Ah, youth…”

I guess I said that more nostalgically than anything else, because most of us old guys have been there, done that, and long since worn out the t-shirt.

[/quote]
I really respect you, and I appreciate your input. I’m well aware of the “life beating it out of you” doctrine. I’ve observed it my whole life, and I’m starting to feel its blows. I don’t want to come across as someone that feels entitled to the universe. I just want to illustrate where I’m coming from. I’m more than willing to fight for my goals and dreams. I don’t care how many times I get down. I won’t stay down. That’s not me. If I can post-reflect and incite a response, I know that something happened whether positive or negative. I want to live a story of value and provide comfort for my family.[/quote]

Not sure what I did to gain your respect, but thank you.

I hope you know that I was not criticizing you or your posts. You definitely have my support, and I have no doubt you’ll do well – in whatever ways are meaningful to you.

I suspect that in some ways, you and I come from the same place (both experientially and philosophically).[/quote]
lol maybe and thanks

[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I feel I should be much further along in life by now. It’s hard not to be envious of the success of my friends when I feel so stagnant. [/quote]

Man Spar, I’m right there with you. I am pre med and before taking my MCATS I was very confident that I was going to get into med school because of how well my GPA was and I graduated magna cum laude from my school (which has its own medical school). Even during my MCAT prep, I was very confident that I was still going to get in due to me scoring 33-35’s on my MCAT (stupid verbal brings it down). All that confidence basically went down the drain when I took my MCAT the summer of my junior year. I straight up had an anxiety attack during, which has never happens to me, and ended up only with a 29. BEcause I scored lower then i knew i could, I took a very long time in deciding whether I should apply last year, or take re-take my MCATS in Sept and take a year off. Unfortunately, I decided to apply to med school late and really hurt my chances of getting in. I just graduated a month ago, and have been studying for my MCAT which is a week away. I have no idea what I am going to do for my GAP year. I was thinking about doing a Masters program, but that probably went down the drain when I found out my professor sent her letter of recommendation waay to late. My life literally went from great to shit just because of one test.

What’s been driving me crazy is that there are two kids I know, who got into my universities medical school, even though I know they’re not as motivated as I am. My university didn’t even give me a fucking interview. And there’s other kids I know who’s a filthy rich brat and is only in medical school because she was in the pre medical program and basically “cheated” the system. That kid had to pay for a private tutor for her freaking MCAT… does she really deserve to be in their…

It’s also annoying seeing my business friends who have done absolutely no internships, no jobs, no volunteer work throughout their undergrad. They graduated with 3.3 GPA’s, and they ALL got jobs and are basically enjoying life now.

Even though it annoys me seeing the success of my peers, I know that WHEN i get into medical school and finally become a physician, it will be all my peers who will be jealous of me and my success. a lot of time, more effort = more success.

That’s how you got to look at it, Sure your friends have success now, but how will their success change 10 years from now… I bet me and you could easily get 9-5 jobs once we graduate, which is usually the final destination for most… Is that really what you want?

EDIT: Yeah bitch, im venting lol

[/quote]
very good discussions going on ITT apart from this post

lol at
your practice tests being indicative of the actual exam
your friends being lazy phaggots, but you on the other hand couldn’t get apps in early
physicians being better than a 9-5

but you seem like a good guy and I agree very much with the brats comments. I had a few classmates who got into med schools because their parents were large donors. They’re going to kill someone one day

OP what are your goals in life at the moment? life-long high hopes definitely =/= reality

[quote]browndisaster wrote:

[quote]illadelphia91 wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I feel I should be much further along in life by now. It’s hard not to be envious of the success of my friends when I feel so stagnant. [/quote]

Man Spar, I’m right there with you. I am pre med and before taking my MCATS I was very confident that I was going to get into med school because of how well my GPA was and I graduated magna cum laude from my school (which has its own medical school). Even during my MCAT prep, I was very confident that I was still going to get in due to me scoring 33-35’s on my MCAT (stupid verbal brings it down). All that confidence basically went down the drain when I took my MCAT the summer of my junior year. I straight up had an anxiety attack during, which has never happens to me, and ended up only with a 29. BEcause I scored lower then i knew i could, I took a very long time in deciding whether I should apply last year, or take re-take my MCATS in Sept and take a year off. Unfortunately, I decided to apply to med school late and really hurt my chances of getting in. I just graduated a month ago, and have been studying for my MCAT which is a week away. I have no idea what I am going to do for my GAP year. I was thinking about doing a Masters program, but that probably went down the drain when I found out my professor sent her letter of recommendation waay to late. My life literally went from great to shit just because of one test.

What’s been driving me crazy is that there are two kids I know, who got into my universities medical school, even though I know they’re not as motivated as I am. My university didn’t even give me a fucking interview. And there’s other kids I know who’s a filthy rich brat and is only in medical school because she was in the pre medical program and basically “cheated” the system. That kid had to pay for a private tutor for her freaking MCAT… does she really deserve to be in their…

It’s also annoying seeing my business friends who have done absolutely no internships, no jobs, no volunteer work throughout their undergrad. They graduated with 3.3 GPA’s, and they ALL got jobs and are basically enjoying life now.

Even though it annoys me seeing the success of my peers, I know that WHEN i get into medical school and finally become a physician, it will be all my peers who will be jealous of me and my success. a lot of time, more effort = more success.

That’s how you got to look at it, Sure your friends have success now, but how will their success change 10 years from now… I bet me and you could easily get 9-5 jobs once we graduate, which is usually the final destination for most… Is that really what you want?

EDIT: Yeah bitch, im venting lol

[/quote]
very good discussions going on ITT apart from this post

lol at
your practice tests being indicative of the actual exam
your friends being lazy phaggots, but you on the other hand couldn’t get apps in early
physicians being better than a 9-5

but you seem like a good guy and I agree very much with the brats comments. I had a few classmates who got into med schools because their parents were large donors. They’re going to kill someone one day

OP what are your goals in life at the moment? life-long high hopes definitely =/= reality[/quote]
My short term goals? I’ll outline them.
perform well enough in my job to receive outstanding references
become proficient in Java, JavaScript, C++, MySQL, and HTML before summer ends
4.0 for fall 2013
4.0 for spring 2014
finish my first cinematic by spring break 2014
compose my first classical piece by spring break 2014
compete in my first strongman comp and second powerlifting meet during the 2013-2014 school year
have a paid internship for summer 2014
compose a drafting portfolio by fall 2015
graduate in 2016
go abroad between 2015 and 2017
obtain fluency in the five languages I’ve selected by 2018
chart my first expedition by 2019
I think that’s fairly simplified. All tangible. Nothing a decade plus into the future.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
I just graduated with a degree in Acct/MIS and I had a average GPA 3.0. The Job hunt(particularly career hunt) sucks Ballz.[/quote]
Still wondering if you lift.[/quote]

DYEL?

[quote]browndisaster wrote:

very good discussions going on ITT apart from this post
[/quote]

THEM FIGHTING WORDS BOY, nah jk, that post was just me venting

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
lol at
your practice tests being indicative of the actual exam [/quote]

I think most people would say this is true. Most people I’ve talk to about MCATS said that the practice tests were indicative of their actual scores. If it wasn’t, its cause they panicked like me, but when they took it their second time, they basically got what they were scoring on their practice tests.

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
your friends being lazy phaggots, but you on the other hand couldn’t get apps in early [/quote]

Apps weren’t sent late cause i was “lazy”, it was because I took a long time to decide what I should do. And if you read another one of my comments later, you would’ve have seen me say me not getting in was ultimately my fault. It’s just frustrating seeing people from my school get in who I think did not deserve the spot over me, but oh well, I just gotta move on.

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
physicians being better than a 9-5 [/quote]

Don’t really get what made you say this, but I was not at all trying to imply this. Basically what I meant was, a lot of people are fine with their 9-5 desk job and are okay with doing the bare minimum to get by in life. I am not trying to say 9-5 jobs are the bare minimum, just saying some people don’t really have any true motivation to do their job, they’re just doing it because they need to pay the bills. Yeah, i’d rather not have a job, but because I can’t live of my parents for the rest of my life, I’d rather do a job that I think passionate about.

[quote]optheta wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]optheta wrote:
I just graduated with a degree in Acct/MIS and I had a average GPA 3.0. The Job hunt(particularly career hunt) sucks Ballz.[/quote]
Still wondering if you lift.[/quote]

DYEL?[/quote]
How’d it go with that company you were looking at?

[quote]browndisaster wrote:

physicians being better than a 9-5

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Read over my post again, I can see that I kinda came off as douche thinking phsycian’s are better then an average joe. Really didn’t mean to say that though. I guess what I was trying to say that I was somewhat becoming jealous of my friends cause they were able to get jobs last minute after graduating, even thought they didn’t really put in any effort in school or with extra curriculars. But I overcame that jealousy because I realized that those people doing their jobs aren’t doing it because they enjoy it and even thought they may seem to have more success then me now, in 20 years I wouldn’t consider them being more successful if they’re still doing a job they hate.