High E2 Symptoms?

Ahahah. I knew it. You brought up your dogmas. Androgen resistance, that has been demonstrated to be a rare condition by medical literature.
As @roscoe88 said you talk about pollutant and chemicals, that raises E2 and lower T (worsening ratio by the way) yet you say to let E2 run wildly. Perfect coherence.
You say men these days need more testosterone than before, just because you woke up one morning and you decided to.
Still not even elite athletes has these levels (which can be due to cortisol or steroid usage, yet we don’t know).
And most of all you ignore the ranges you don’t like. So ignore PSA, ignore lipids, ignore HCT and RBC.
Elevated testosterone will fix it for you. Does it cure cancers as well? Or do you use baking soda for that?

This is the guy you are putting you’re putting in charge of your health. Good luck with it.

Ah, and no, your doctors didn’t have an answer to people like me and some other people who messaged them on FB. Yet, you keep lying saying none of your guys didn’t resolve his symptoms.

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My triglycerides dropped by 50% and my HDL increased by 10% as I’ve reached my highest dose. Any acne I had was only at lower doses and is gone at high test doses. HCT was highest for me when I was on 100 mg a week. My best libido peaked with E2 of over 60.Even with E2 over 72 I had zero water retention or bloat and not holding any fat. Any joint pain I had from the gym was gone as E2 went up. If you’re getting anxiety it’s probably not testosterone. You got other issues. But go right ahead and inject as little test as you want and keep that E2 low.

You ‘think’ it is a dogma. Give it 2 years and then we’ll talk. You have NO IDEA how many people I know that are working on this as we speak. The research will be out soon. Nothing whatsoever having to do with raising E2 and lowering T. Again, you’re clueless here.

I didn’t wake up and decide anything. How many doctors around the world have you spoken to in the last 30 days on this subject? Exactly. Again, you’re clueless here. You’re yet another person who thinks I’m pulling this info out of my ass when I’ve had over a dozen physicians on my channel stating the same thing. Again, who do you think taught me this stuff??

You’re still talking about natural levels and ranges. Again, clueless. Not sure how many more times I need to say clueless. You’re not grasping what I’m telling you.

Yes, take baking soda for cancer. Are you for real?

I’m not in charge of anyone’s health. I relay information from the people who are leading educators in the field. What are you doing? Simply stating what they are saying is wrong? Provide your evidence.

You call messaging a doctor on Facebook the equivalent of them taking you on as a patient??? This is how you’re basing your argument??? Are you for real??? You were NEVER a patient of any of these doctors so don’t judge them on a tiny fragment of info one of them may have given you in a Facebook PM because the rest of the guys here wouldn’t be that dumb.

Again, it’s like talking to a wall. I keep saying this. You are CLUELESS.

To the rest of you, hopefully this Coronavirus hysteria calms down in the next two weeks. I visited because I got tagged in something several times and it’s quiet. I have no intention of regularly participating here. The rest of you know how to find me if need be.

I was teasing you. But you’re too busy getting flared up that you can’t understand.

I never subscribed to FB. We spoke through email, you never replied simply because your doctors don’t have an answer to that. Some users have reported their experience with one of your doctor on Excelmale and it wasn’t a pleasant one. I’m not doing names as it’s not my nature. The forum is open, you can go and dig it out.

Take care. We’ll fight again when you will pop out again.

I honestly forgot about it. Come see what my inbox looks like and you’ll understand. Deal with any of those docs directly and they will figure it out.

You are so full of shit. I told you every single week to give it 8 weeks and you couldn’t do it so in reality you don’t know how it effected you because you never gave it long enough. Your issue is you can’t commit to anything long enough to work and want to bitch about it afterwards like it’s anyone’s fault but your own.

@roscoe88 I just gotta laugh at the sheer ignorance of your post. You think environmental phytoestrogens are anything like estradiol? Really? This is your argument?

Really? You actually think these are the same?

I’ve lost this in between Danny’s estrogenic emotional outbursts. Did you change your protocol to once a week injection or are you still on daily?

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Started TRT doing once a week but currently am on daily and have been for quite a while now.

Did you quit Finasteride before starting TRT? When did issues arise from using it? My brother has been on it 5 years with supposedly no issues. Just curious

I’ve quit more than a year before TRT, and tried all the other routes before it.

After 2 years of finasteride my DHT was still 600 (range 300-900). After 5 years I started experiencing insomnia and decreased physical and mental performance that got worse progressively, leading me to start investigating the issue. Result was low T, non existent DHT and an E2 of 30. Finasteride works by blocking DHT, which leads to a higher T and sensibly higher E2 in the beginning. With time, the higher E2 signals the HPTA to produce less T and you end up hypogonadal. In some individuals it happens before, in some after, but it will happen.
It also has a negative impact on GABA receptors in the brain, that could lead to permanent neurotransmitters unbalance. The thing is still being studied and it will take several years to have long term studies on finasteride effect on the brain after drug withdrawal. I would convince your brother to get off it if I were you. Does he have a blood test done before starting taking it? Maybe DHT wasn’t even the culprit. Hair-loss is a multifactorial condition.

Do explain then Dbossa.

Your whole major premise is that due to all the environmental estrogen mimics out there, we need to rise to supra levels to overcome their effect on our bodies. Yet in the same breath you welcome increases in estrogen.

I took your advice on protocol, and it didn’t pan out.

You bring a lot of knowledge, whether correct or not (mainly just your viewpoints), but your presentation makes you sound like a know it all asshole.

Not everyone falls into your cookie cutter form. You should acknowledge this and not act almighty. Its completely made me not want to post here.

Oh, and your thread towards Systemlord? Complete dickhead move. You couldve gone about that much differently bro. Just rude and obnoxious.

Not everyone shares your viewpoints.

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Because of @dbossa posts here I quit taking an AI and feel better than ever before, and it’s not even close. Quit harping on message delivery method and listen to the message. It certainly worked for me.

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Blah blah blah. Glad it worked for you. I doesn’t work for all.

And to have to hear his whiny voice (yes, i can hear it through here) drone on and on about studies and drs, etc. and how it works for everyone, it gets annoying to say the least.

Oh, and i listened to his message. FAIL. And i’m not the only one.

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Then try something else and quit being a douche

Your danny nuthuggery is strong bro.

Not everyone likes to hear his bs all the time.

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@roscoe88 I want to make damn sure everyone in this forum realizes how utterly clueless you are. You are making arguments from sheer ignorance. You’re under the delusion that phytoestrogens from our environment have the same effects in our body as Estradiol?? This one statement alone demonstrates an unbelievable lack of knowledge and instantly demolishes any argument you are making. In your worldview, all estrogens are the same. Here’s a tip: instead of calling people out who have studied the literature, READ the damn literature because you’re making yourself sound like an ignorant fool. Do you get this? There is a REASON why physicians use bioidentical Estradiol and not synthetic derivitives like Premarin! Otherwise they would be telling women to just drink their tap water from plastic bottles to get more estrogen, dumbass!

I can’t believe anyone can be this stupid. I can’t believe it! Read the research!! Educate yourself!

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1Ml3jnxdxpBTc3kKIIpW3KT5CqrwIdjuG?usp=sharing

This is EXACTLY what i’m talking about dude.

The way you talk to (or, i should say, at) people is disgusting and annoying. I would slap the living shit out of you if you talked like that to me to my face.

You need a lesson in etiquette.

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Come and give me a lesson anytime. The outcome would surprise you beyond belief. You throw insults around like it’s nothing but when someone calls you out on your BS you resort to threats.

Go play in your sandbox with the rest of the children.

Please dude. You’re a scrawny little bitch. Everyone sees that. It’s amazing you’re actually on the doses you state.

And for the record, you never answered my question as to whether what i posted was your main premise. Instead, you went on one of your emotional rampages about estrogen.

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Danny, I think this is what he’s talking about. You’re clearly lacking manners and ability to interact with people without insulting someone. I truly hope you’re not like that with your family.

As it has been said, TRT won’t save you from your demons.

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