I’ve heard a few people mention that these are 'feel good" drugs… They are not.
They stablize the emotions so that the person can feel ‘normal’ and not feel the extreme moods that they’re used to.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
I’ve heard a few people mention that these are 'feel good" drugs… They are not.
They stablize the emotions so that the person can feel ‘normal’ and not feel the extreme moods that they’re used to.[/quote]
you are correct, also anti depressants “dull” your emotions the bad ones like depression and anxiety problem is they “dull” the good emotions as well such as happiness.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
I’ve heard a few people mention that these are 'feel good" drugs… They are not.
They stablize the emotions so that the person can feel ‘normal’ and not feel the extreme moods that they’re used to.[/quote]
you are correct, also anti depressants “dull” your emotions the bad ones like depression and anxiety problem is they “dull” the good emotions as well such as happiness. [/quote]
That’s basically what I meant.
The people I know do get angry, upset, and depressed, but it doesn’t last for very long. It levels the persons moods out.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
I’ve heard a few people mention that these are 'feel good" drugs… They are not.
They stablize the emotions so that the person can feel ‘normal’ and not feel the extreme moods that they’re used to.[/quote]
you are correct, also anti depressants “dull” your emotions the bad ones like depression and anxiety problem is they “dull” the good emotions as well such as happiness. [/quote]
This is so true…I don’t feel extreme emotions. I can’t be a bitch anymore. I get angry, pissed off even, then a few minutes later it’s like “oh well.” shrug “whatever.” 
A broad study of drugs - from caffeine to alcohol to street drugs to psychiatric drugs - would show that for the most part they act in the same way… in a small enough dose they can act as a stimulant, but as the dose/potency increases it becomes more and more of sedative, literally dulling your emotions because of cutting off the nerves and thus making the body more and more DEAD (not used figuratively) …obviously this would give the appearance of helping “cure” someone with a visible mental illness or out-of-control emotions, when really it is just sapping more and more of their life away. These drugs would be a CRIMINAL cover-up if you asked me (or looked at the facts). So someone on psychiatric drugs MIGHT not be as “sad” as they were …but the only SURE thing is that they will never be as happy as they could be.
[quote]patrickben31 wrote:
A broad study of drugs - from caffeine to alcohol to street drugs to psychiatric drugs - would show that for the most part they act in the same way… in a small enough dose they can act as a stimulant, but as the dose/potency increases it becomes more and more of sedative, literally dulling your emotions because of cutting off the nerves and thus making the body more and more DEAD (not used figuratively) …obviously this would give the appearance of helping “cure” someone with a visible mental illness or out-of-control emotions, when really it is just sapping more and more of their life away. These drugs would be a CRIMINAL cover-up if you asked me (or looked at the facts). So someone on psychiatric drugs MIGHT not be as “sad” as they were …but the only SURE thing is that they will never be as happy as they could be. [/quote]
The first part of what you said is absolutely false. I’ve never heard of an opiate acting as a stimulant, and the only time cocaine really acts as a sedative is when you’re fucking dying. Maybe you could tell me when PCP works as a sedative? Or how about anything in the phenethylamine family? At what dosage do you predict benzos work as stimulants?
The last line is also something I’d object to. Have you ever seen the mental anguish someone with schizophrenia or bipolar type I goes through? I’m assuming you haven’t, cause then I think you’d see that without medications they’re [often] as far from happy as can be. You see someone with an actual disorder when they’re on meds, think ‘well they’ve got it together, surely they don’t NEED these things.’ And that’s exactly what many of them do think before they quit their meds and end up in the hospital or in a coffin.
Also, how do you know that these medications are “sapping” the users’ lives away? It’s thanks to some of these psychiatric drugs that some of those users have lives period.
You seem to be talking about antidepressants, and if you were talking mostly about ‘depressives,’ then I can kind of see your point. Antidepressants are not the final answer for people without pervasive depression resulting from a chemical imbalance.
I think MODOK is overdue for stopping by and dropping a knowledge bomb on this thread.
[quote]espenl wrote:
It makes me happy to see people here managing their mental disorders in any way, and leading a satisfying life. I wish you all the best :)[/quote]
X2
Years ago when I worked midnights I went to the doc and asked him for something to help me sleep. Can’t remember the name, tiny little blue pill. Anyway it worked but it made everything, I don’t know, dull?. No mood swings or anything I just kinda functiond. No highs, no lows, just middle, like an alert zombie lol. Very weird because I was unaware at first and it took my wife mentioning it to me to make me realize I was at level 5 all the time. I’ve been described as someone who is wound up pretty tight and it was a little strange for my wife to be around me at the time lol.
That’s the best way I can describe those three weeks. Is this the state some of these drugs put you in?
I take Abiliy, Lamictal, and Cymbalta currently. This is my description of how I feel on them:
When I was manic, I was at a 100. I could control the weather and cause earthquakes. I was at the center of a worldwide conspiracy, like I was in a zoo and everyone was playing along with me just so they could observe me. Hard to explain.
When I’m depressed, I’m at a 10. Ready to check out. Making plans to swerve into oncoming traffic later in the day. Laying on the couch for days at a time.
If a 60 is a really good day, I’m pretty much stuck at a 50 or so on my meds. That’s kind of a bummer, because I do feel flat emotionally. If I’m getting a lot of green tea and fish oils, though, I might hit a 60 every so often.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]espenl wrote:
It makes me happy to see people here managing their mental disorders in any way, and leading a satisfying life. I wish you all the best :)[/quote]
X2
Years ago when I worked midnights I went to the doc and asked him for something to help me sleep. Can’t remember the name, tiny little blue pill. Anyway it worked but it made everything, I don’t know, dull?. No mood swings or anything I just kinda functiond. No highs, no lows, just middle, like an alert zombie lol. Very weird because I was unaware at first and it took my wife mentioning it to me to make me realize I was at level 5 all the time. I’ve been described as someone who is wound up pretty tight and it was a little strange for my wife to be around me at the time lol.
That’s the best way I can describe those three weeks. Is this the state some of these drugs put you in? [/quote]
Sounds like Seroquel…that made me into a complete zombie…felt outta touch with everything
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]espenl wrote:
It makes me happy to see people here managing their mental disorders in any way, and leading a satisfying life. I wish you all the best :)[/quote]
X2
Years ago when I worked midnights I went to the doc and asked him for something to help me sleep. Can’t remember the name, tiny little blue pill. Anyway it worked but it made everything, I don’t know, dull?. No mood swings or anything I just kinda functiond. No highs, no lows, just middle, like an alert zombie lol. Very weird because I was unaware at first and it took my wife mentioning it to me to make me realize I was at level 5 all the time. I’ve been described as someone who is wound up pretty tight and it was a little strange for my wife to be around me at the time lol.
That’s the best way I can describe those three weeks. Is this the state some of these drugs put you in? [/quote]
i guess my way of describing it as “dull” is catching on.lol
but yes that does sound kinda like what the Anti-depressants do.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
[quote]espenl wrote:
It makes me happy to see people here managing their mental disorders in any way, and leading a satisfying life. I wish you all the best :)[/quote]
X2
Years ago when I worked midnights I went to the doc and asked him for something to help me sleep. Can’t remember the name, tiny little blue pill. Anyway it worked but it made everything, I don’t know, dull?. No mood swings or anything I just kinda functiond. No highs, no lows, just middle, like an alert zombie lol. Very weird because I was unaware at first and it took my wife mentioning it to me to make me realize I was at level 5 all the time. I’ve been described as someone who is wound up pretty tight and it was a little strange for my wife to be around me at the time lol.
That’s the best way I can describe those three weeks. Is this the state some of these drugs put you in? [/quote]
i guess my way of describing it as “dull” is catching on.lol
but yes that does sound kinda like what the Anti-depressants do.[/quote]
One I know that doesn’t cause said dullness is Wellbutrin, since it’s a stimulant. You get shit done on that stuff, man.
My doc recently wanted to put me on Seroquel while we waited for some test results to come in. Like I’m going to take an antipsychotic when I don’t have psychotic symptoms.
And that’s how you do it - you learn what these things are, you learn about yourself and the severity of your condition, and YOU make the choice to take a specific med or find something else to tide you over.
Wellbutrin sent me to the hospital…it put me into a manic state…
Antipsychotic meds are very scary just by the name alone but many have so called off labeel uses such as risperdal and seroquel. Risperdal is also used to treat anxiety, which is why I was put on it and seroquel is also used to treat chronic insomnia. It seems as if head docs prescribe antipsychotics for off label use haphazordly as usuallyu these meds are no fucking joke I can say that from experience!
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Wellbutrin sent me to the hospital…it put me into a manic state…
Antipsychotic meds are very scary just by the name alone but many have so called off labeel uses such as risperdal and seroquel. Risperdal is also used to treat anxiety, which is why I was put on it and seroquel is also used to treat chronic insomnia. It seems as if head docs prescribe antipsychotics for off label use haphazordly as usuallyu these meds are no fucking joke I can say that from experience![/quote]
I hear you on the manic reaction to Wellbutrin. Gotta watch stimulants. Typically docs up your mood stabilizer dose to counteract your natural chemistry AND the antidepressant.
I was told to take Seroquel partly to manage my recent hypomania (which felt like it was growing into something more serious) as well as to continue getting good sleep (I can stay up for five days straight if not regulated). My trazadone is doing great for sleep, so I didn’t see the need for Seroquel. No psychotic symptoms, already on an antidepressant, and no current insomnia.
All I’ve ever heard about atypical antipsychotics firsthand is they truly fuck your cognition, make your thoughts murky… Not something that sounds fun.
neelydan took AD’s for a good couple years after being married for 12 hours
[All I’ve ever heard about atypical antipsychotics firsthand is they truly fuck your cognition, make your thoughts murky… Not something that sounds fun.[/quote]
x2 and they will have you believe that those symptoms go away, but they reallyu dont, no way to live
[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
neelydan took AD’s for a good couple years after being married for 12 hours[/quote]
LOL, I believe it!
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[All I’ve ever heard about atypical antipsychotics firsthand is they truly fuck your cognition, make your thoughts murky… Not something that sounds fun.[/quote]
x2 and they will have you believe that those symptoms go away, but they reallyu dont, no way to live
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glad this never happened me when i was on olanzapine.
I sure hope you folks can at least have some kind of peace while you sleep.
[quote]bond james bond wrote:
I sure hope you folks can at least have some kind of peace while you sleep. [/quote]
only a recent novelty for me, (by recent i mean like 5-6 months), before that i couldn’t sleep much.