You keep saying this and it makes no sense for the discussion. You’re an intelligent guy. Heterosexuality isn’t in danger by gay marriage. I don’t know too many straight guys who decide to be gay now that it’s legal. Nothing has changed in your life. Nothing has changed in my marriage.
A billion alien ghost sharks with lasers attack Earth tomorrow , species wide disaster. Doesn’t have a damn thing to do with two girls in love.
Honestly the privileged and desirable thing just comes off as gross. If straight marriage is not those things it isn’t the fault of gay marriage. It’s not like high divorce rates and the fact that you can get married in 5 minutes in Vegas were created by gays.
Do the religious really need something else to feel better than those who don’t think like them? Can’t just be happy thinking gays are going to be tortured for all eternity for not following sky terrorist? Want to make sure life on Earth is miserable for gays like it has been for most of humankind?
You are under the impression that homosexuals are infertile or don’t want kids.They can and do have kids. Your entire argument ignores biological reality.
Nope. Very uncharitable. You guys get really upset over this stuff. I really have to spend some time with my lady.
Maybe you guys tackle the cold hards truth about the disappearance of homosexuality vs heterosexuality and the impact on humanity. Sorry, heterosexuality provides serious social utility. Homosexuality doesn’t. I’m not obligated via reason or morality to support state recognition of marriages.
And big whoop, one other arrangement out of any number of imaginable arrangements involving any number of consenting adults can conjure up. Romantic/sexual, or not. How progressive.
Damn you REALLY think this is a strong point huh? This has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Am I missing something? For every gay marriage do 50 heterosexuals spontaneously combust?
Tackle the cold hard truth of alien ghost sharks invading and killing all people. Think of the impact on humanity!!!
Of all the points you can make on the topic this is by far the silliest.
My wife works for head start and they partner with a decent sized church next to them for some activities. That church raised money to pay for a members sex change.
That has to make religious gay haters heads explode.
Enjoy your date but when you get back please answer this question?
As a straight male who has been married for a long time I just don’t understand why so many people get their panties in a wad over gay marriage? Being an atheist the religious reasons don’t fly with me but I just don’t see how they are a threat to my marriage since we are both straight? Why do so many object to people loving who they want and just being themselves. Gay people have always been here and always will because they are born that way. But I guess some would rather they stay hidden in the closet and be miserable. Now that would be a horrible life. My wife and I have many gay friends and my favorite cousin is gay. They are just like everyone else, some are good and some are not so good but being gay has nothing to do with that.
I’m not him, but I’ll try to interpret this for @Sloth . I am not sure what question was asked in this sentence.
This is a statement.
This is also a statement.
This appears to be a question punctuated like a statement. @Sloth, I think he may want a response to this, because the rest of his post is filled with more statements.
I know it’s a strong point. They are clearly and undeniably unequal with indisputably different impacts on the human race. Nobody here can argue that. They flat out aren’t the same. The stat should have no interest unless it inarguably serves some wide ranging critical function for society.
We all know I am correct about the differing repercussions for the human race in the vanishing hypotheticals. One would be a catastrophe, the other an odd incident.
That evident difference easily gives me argument as to why hetero coupling serves/impacts society. Therefore, gives me a reasoned argument as to why the society and the state are served by recognizing heterosexual couplings above, say, 5 non-romantic drinking buddies.
You guys can stick with the religious arguments if you want. But, I will be continuing to keep my own points and counterpoints secular. My argument boils down to the non-existent logical or moral reasons obligating me to support state recognized marriage.
Fair? We could all get the best healthcare too, I guess. Fair isn’t an argument when we don’t even agree the two arrangements are even remotely equal in impact.
You don’t need to pretend your religion isn’t the basis for your thoughts on this matter. Given population numbers don’t exist that backs your fear of not continuing the species, and you aren’t applying any of the same logic against gays to straight people, the only option left is what you said above.
As you already said, you want inequality for the sake of inequality so society doesn’t have an incentive to be gay.
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This has been acknowledged multiple times. It’s just not a good point.
I have no desire for a religious argument, so no. You all are insisting on it, actually.
Acknowledge that heterosexuality does continue the species (and our concern for the quality–intact bio parents) acknowledges the vast gulf between the arrangements.
Not for the sake of inequality. They simply are unequal things. And one arrangement has no reasoned basis for state recognition.
I know it’s been acknowledged multiple times. Thus, admitting they are two very different things with vastly different importance. I am not now obligated by morality or reason to treat them the same.
Love? That’s your own thing the state has no business privileging over a group of life long bachelor friends. The state has no business unless there is some inherent and critical reprucussion for society. “But they’re in love,” isn’t an argument.
Don’t our this one boss lol. Only a fuckin idiot is worried about the continuation of the human race. I can read annual population numbers just fine tyvm.
It is a legal marital status. Between 2 adults. They’re equal in all ways but one. Partner choice of the parties involved. You keep acting like continuing the race matters then not applying the same logic to straight people
My best man and his wife cannot have children. I don’t pretend to understand the medical reason, as it’s none of my business, but they can’t conceive.
Should they be allowed to claim marital status knowing they cannot reproduce? There’s no difference between their marriage and a gay one aside from sexual preference.
Edit: couldnt really give 2 shits about the rest of my post, but I’d genuinely love the bolded part answered