ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?
Tater,
Supposedly peptides are better for young youths like yourself. HGH is not without sides though. It just won’t shut down your gonads. That said, what on earth do you need with HGH at your age? If I were your father I’d 2X4 you!
Don’t you love the MLB now.
thanks for being relevant
I’m confussed?
You’re 18. You are the fountain of youth.
I’m 22 and I’m still bloody young myself.
Eat saturated fats and lift heavy shit and your body is going to make testosterone and other goodies all by itself.
I’ll look at steriods and shit when I’m old.
Those aren’t the only side effects of using HGH. Why on earth would you even want to use that at your age? I’m not talking about the fact that it doesn’t shut you down like AAS, I mean what is the point? Just to get HYUGE!? I mean unless you are an elite athlete I can’t see the point.
[quote]Dylanj wrote:
ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?[/quote]
Your 18 and doing more than fine by your picture. Unless you plan on going to the NFL, Olympics or Mr.Olympia don’t even think about drugs till you turn 30. Don’t think HGH has “no side effects a and cost is the only downside” any more then Testosterone does. To quote a very wise man:
The right time to start gear is when you have done everything right (training, nutrition and rest) and you stop making gains. You have to realize that gear doesn’t make up for sloppy training, dieting and rest practices. All that gear does is enhance them.
So your first goal is to make sure you train properly (this includes making sure you have the mind/body connection - learn what physical failure and mental failure are), to make sure you eat properly on a consistent basis (VERY important) and that you rest adequately on a consistent basis too.
Once you mastered all those, and then you stagnate, that is when you should start the gear.
This is what I tell everyone that is thinking about starting gear or using ‘strong’ gear’ too soon - you will get a certain level of development natural. When that stops, add gear. When it stops again, add HGH. When it stops again, add insulin. When it stops again, add Syntherol, etc. If one was to take all the gear he could plus HGH plus insulin plus Syntherol right from the start, what is he going to do/take when all this stops working? He will be stuck. Sure he will get quicker short term results, but in the long run he will have less overall results than one that did it gradually and inteligently.
Dylan,
In case you didn’t get my post from your last thread, here it is.
Listen man, if you get on a good consistent training program and stick with a good protein supplement, maybe some creatine and a nitric oxide supplement, eat good, you should see some great gains in your future. BE PATIENT, I been in the game for over 27 years and gains will come without AAS. I was over 40 when I first started AAS. If your suseptable to gyno, AAS and even prohormones are not a good choice right now.
Why are you so hell bent on doing steroids or even growth?
Not only is it foolish at 18 but not necessary.
You will run into many plateau’s in training. Work through them.
It’s my opinion that steroids and peptides are for a mature body, one that has reached it’s max potential naturally and your a long way from that.
And don’t think that there are no side effects from HGH.
MAX
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?
Look Dylan, I realize everyone who tells you not to do this and not to do that is an asshole in your little mind. But you're getting ridiculous. You have a good solid start, you keep coming back here and trying to get advice. When it doesn't sound like what you want, you come back with something else. Now it's hgh. Cmon, give me a break. You don't have any reason on god's green earth to be doing anything if you have gotten in the shape you're in presently by doing as you have stated, nothing except a tiny taste of prohormones by "accident" before you knew better.
You’re acting like a person with an addictive personality, and you’re annoying to say the least. Go ahead and get yourself some hgh now, so you can tweak along and get a distended gut, and grow some tissues you might not be interested in growing besides muscle, since it “has no side effects”.
You just need to listen to guys like Maximus and the rest of us who have been telling you over and over to just stfu and eat right. Continue what you're doing, and you should keep making great progress. You have a great start, "naturally" according to your own words. So, keep up the good work.
I'm starting to think you're full of shit, because if you have made the gains your avatar indicates naturally, then I would say it's weird that you're infatuated with artificially "helping" yourself make more gains, since if that is you, you must be doing something right. So what is the deal with you? And what ever happened to your gyno issues? It's like you leave the forum after being told what to do, and never follow up with us on what has happened since then.
I like you believe it or not, but you seem to be hell bent on fucking yourself up for some reason.
ToneBone[/quote]
Very well said T-Bone! I for one, eagerly wait Dylon’s response?
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?
Look Dylan, I realize everyone who tells you not to do this and not to do that is an asshole in your little mind. But you're getting ridiculous. You have a good solid start, you keep coming back here and trying to get advice. When it doesn't sound like what you want, you come back with something else. Now it's hgh. Cmon, give me a break. You don't have any reason on god's green earth to be doing anything if you have gotten in the shape you're in presently by doing as you have stated, nothing except a tiny taste of prohormones by "accident" before you knew better.
You’re acting like a person with an addictive personality, and you’re annoying to say the least. Go ahead and get yourself some hgh now, so you can tweak along and get a distended gut, and grow some tissues you might not be interested in growing besides muscle, since it “has no side effects”.
You just need to listen to guys like Maximus and the rest of us who have been telling you over and over to just stfu and eat right. Continue what you're doing, and you should keep making great progress. You have a great start, "naturally" according to your own words. So, keep up the good work.
I'm starting to think you're full of shit, because if you have made the gains your avatar indicates naturally, then I would say it's weird that you're infatuated with artificially "helping" yourself make more gains, since if that is you, you must be doing something right. So what is the deal with you? And what ever happened to your gyno issues? It's like you leave the forum after being told what to do, and never follow up with us on what has happened since then.
I like you believe it or not, but you seem to be hell bent on fucking yourself up for some reason.
ToneBone[/quote]
i keep coming back with other supps becuase they are different, and i am looking to be bigger than i am now, im deff not an addictive person, ive never done any drugs, not even pot, never been high, i ocasionaly drink, maybe once of twice a year, i asked about prohormones, you guys told me not to take them, i took your advice and didnt take them, you guys told me to get on some nolva, i did now my gyno has decreased in size. now i asked about hgh, you guys are telling me not to, so im not going to. when i asked about prohormones none of you said dont do hgh for gods sake… becuase thats not what i asked, now i asked about hgh, got my answere and im satified. i am very appreciative that you guys are here for guidance at such a young age. i dont realize that im hellbent on fucking myself over, im just curious more than anything, i hear all these great things about the stuff on this forum, so i ask questions. ive fucked up with some of the stuff, but who hasnt? now i know so im not going to touch the stuff. thank you all for your responses, and ill try not to be so annoying from now on…thanks again
[quote]Butkus51 wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?
Your 18 and doing more than fine by your picture. Unless you plan on going to the NFL, Olympics or Mr.Olympia don’t even think about drugs till you turn 30. Don’t think HGH has “no side effects a and cost is the only downside” any more then Testosterone does. To quote a very wise man:
The right time to start gear is when you have done everything right (training, nutrition and rest) and you stop making gains. You have to realize that gear doesn’t make up for sloppy training, dieting and rest practices. All that gear does is enhance them.
So your first goal is to make sure you train properly (this includes making sure you have the mind/body connection - learn what physical failure and mental failure are), to make sure you eat properly on a consistent basis (VERY important) and that you rest adequately on a consistent basis too.
Once you mastered all those, and then you stagnate, that is when you should start the gear.
This is what I tell everyone that is thinking about starting gear or using ‘strong’ gear’ too soon - you will get a certain level of development natural. When that stops, add gear. When it stops again, add HGH. When it stops again, add insulin. When it stops again, add Syntherol, etc. If one was to take all the gear he could plus HGH plus insulin plus Syntherol right from the start, what is he going to do/take when all this stops working? He will be stuck. Sure he will get quicker short term results, but in the long run he will have less overall results than one that did it gradually and inteligently.
[/quote]
and let me add. GO PACKERS!!!
[quote]Dylanj wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Dylanj wrote:
ok ive done a little research on hgh, the stuff is dubbed the"fountain of youth" there are only mild side effects, water retention and joint pain. the stuff doesnt seem to effect the persons production of any hormones. the only downside is the stuff is pretty expensive. now i can get a 2 month supply for 400bucks. i know im only 18, but if there isnt any side effects and cost is the only downside, would this stuff be ok?
Look Dylan, I realize everyone who tells you not to do this and not to do that is an asshole in your little mind. But you're getting ridiculous. You have a good solid start, you keep coming back here and trying to get advice. When it doesn't sound like what you want, you come back with something else. Now it's hgh. Cmon, give me a break. You don't have any reason on god's green earth to be doing anything if you have gotten in the shape you're in presently by doing as you have stated, nothing except a tiny taste of prohormones by "accident" before you knew better.
You’re acting like a person with an addictive personality, and you’re annoying to say the least. Go ahead and get yourself some hgh now, so you can tweak along and get a distended gut, and grow some tissues you might not be interested in growing besides muscle, since it “has no side effects”.
You just need to listen to guys like Maximus and the rest of us who have been telling you over and over to just stfu and eat right. Continue what you're doing, and you should keep making great progress. You have a great start, "naturally" according to your own words. So, keep up the good work.
I'm starting to think you're full of shit, because if you have made the gains your avatar indicates naturally, then I would say it's weird that you're infatuated with artificially "helping" yourself make more gains, since if that is you, you must be doing something right. So what is the deal with you? And what ever happened to your gyno issues? It's like you leave the forum after being told what to do, and never follow up with us on what has happened since then.
I like you believe it or not, but you seem to be hell bent on fucking yourself up for some reason.
ToneBone
i keep coming back with other supps becuase they are different, and i am looking to be bigger than i am now, im deff not an addictive person, ive never done any drugs, not even pot, never been high, i ocasionaly drink, maybe once of twice a year, i asked about prohormones, you guys told me not to take them, i took your advice and didnt take them, you guys told me to get on some nolva, i did now my gyno has decreased in size. now i asked about hgh, you guys are telling me not to, so im not going to. when i asked about prohormones none of you said dont do hgh for gods sake… becuase thats not what i asked, now i asked about hgh, got my answere and im satified. i am very appreciative that you guys are here for guidance at such a young age. i dont realize that im hellbent on fucking myself over, im just curious more than anything, i hear all these great things about the stuff on this forum, so i ask questions. ive fucked up with some of the stuff, but who hasnt? now i know so im not going to touch the stuff. thank you all for your responses, and ill try not to be so annoying from now on…thanks again
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Good answer Dylan. You should keep asking questions. But always expect to get some flaming! I do like the fact that it doesn’t seem to bother you. I had a friend growing up that everyone made of because he kept asking questions in class, most of which were stupid questions. That guy is a Millionaire Surgeon today! I guess the whole thing is no one is going to recommend any drugs for a Teenager. Drugs are just like Dogs, treat them poorly and they can turn on their Master. However, treat them respect and they will be your best friend for life. Again, if you think the only thing stopping you from Pro Sports or the Olympics is a little more strength and size then Drugs are an option. However, that leads into a whole other slew of questions regarding passing drug tests and such, questions not many on here are going to entertain. If that is the case then you would have to be at an All-State level at something. Which BTW, by showing your face, would take you to a whole new level of stupidity, LOL.
Oh and please don’t bring up Football again. I hate Football this Tuesday morning. Apparently, you need to score more then 13 points to win a Monday night game in the NFL 
GO B…E…A…R…ummm…anyone but the Packers!!!
good deal, here goes then
i work at gnc, so i get all this promo shit all the time, so im constantly changing the supps im on depending on the “it” thing out on the market.
i have a very fast metabolism, about 6%bf w/o doing cardio, and great abs w/o working on them. so i can really eat w/e i want. but i always try and keep it clean to a certain extent, i shoot for neutral fats, like nuts and such. i go through about a dozen eggs a day, and about full box of angel hair pasta a day (quality stuff, no bleach and shit). then i supplement a total of 40-60g or protien a day when i want a snack.
as for my preworkout, ive been taking the TRAC nitro loading creatine, i know most of us dont believe in arganine enduced pumps here (ive gotten flamed for this) but i like it. i also picked up some caffeine tabs at walmart and do about 400mg. then immediatly after i take in about 40some gramms or protein, i really like the myoplex stuff ive been using, put on some great size. along with about 5g or creatine. i wait for about 45 min after my workout, then i have a meal, good fats protiens and depending on how i feel a little bit of sugar. along with that ill take my bcaas, and depending on how im doing on cash animal pak.
im eating constantly up until i go to bed, ill usually do about a cup of cottage cheese with 2 bananas, and sometimes a pbj sandwich if its really late. (dont ask me why on the pbj, i like them and they are really fatty ha)
here is my training schedule
mon chest
tues back
wed legs
thur tris
fri bis
sat shoulders
sun legs
i do about 4 excersizes per body group and about 4-6 sets per excersize.
i keep the reps high with bis and legs. about 8-12 reps. i have naturally large legs, but its hard to see any cut. and the high reps has just seemed to work with bis.
everything else i stick with heavy weight low reps around 6-8.
my avatar pic is getting old also, ive put on a good amount of width and thickness while still maintaining cut on my new routine.
At your age, I was a tiny fucker. Much better-looking, but a tiny fucker nonetheless.
Whatever you’re doing naturally right now, it’s obviously only helping your already-great genetics and it would just be an awful shame if you went and tainted that potential so early.
Think of the children, Dylan. For god’s sake, think of the children.
[quote]Contrl wrote:
Think of the children, Dylan. For god’s sake, think of the children.[/quote]
Aren’t you referring to the midgets? I think midgets are actually the ones who need growth hormone, not just normal children. I guess I can let your mistake slide this time…
yeah bushi, red hair blows ass, odd though the chic that im with really really likes it, so i can deal for now. contrl, haha yeah my avatar doesnt do my face justice, but shit happens. thanks again for the responses guys. much appreciated, ill be around asking more questions that will most likely get me flamed, thanks for keeping an eye on me.
just wait, certain hormones are only now being realized for their potential benefit in our species. it’s all part of scientific evolution. =) in 20 years, you might have people asking you why you have never taken a shot of a protein that synergistically works with your body to make itself stonger. =)
Good to hear that you have seen the light Dylan. Your genetics must be out of the ordinary for that matter.
A few suggestions for you. Ditch the myoplex and change it up for some good quality whey post work out or some other post work out drink with some faster obsorbing proteins. Also check up on your bcaa timing and cut your caffine doseage in half to 200mg.
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
Good to hear that you have seen the light Dylan. Your genetics must be out of the ordinary for that matter.
A few suggestions for you. Ditch the myoplex and change it up for some good quality whey post work out or some other post work out drink with some faster obsorbing proteins. Also check up on your bcaa timing and cut your caffine doseage in half to 200mg.[/quote]
i tried to cut the caffiene in half but i didnt feel it, i was taking no xplode for so long that its increased my tolerance or something, no xplode has like 600mg a serving i think. just curious, is caffiene bad in workouts. yeah i got a sick deal on the myoplex, got 10 packs for 95% off, one of the perks of working at gnc. ive been thinking about getting Surge when i get some more cash after the holidays, im acually really looking forward to it, ive never tried it.