Way to go. Know off hand what MET endpoint they use on their test? Approximate incline/speed at the end?
I think it was 12% incline at 4.2 mph. The duration of the test was I think 12 mins
More useless trivia 
Stage 6-7 is where it starts getting fun.
I am glad you have peace of mind and a cardiologist I have been talking with is much more in the camp of many on here rather than me. He says enjoy life as you may get hit by a car today and tells me to stop modeling everything. He makes a good point that if theory and modeling solved all these issues he would be coming to me that that the other way round. He seems more of a therapist since he laughs I know more than him in theory.
He told me to stick with my day job. Best wishes @wsmwannabe
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Wow, that’s intense lol, there’s no way I’d finish a Bruce Protocol haha. This is a modified version for geriatric veterans at the VA. I was nowhere near quitting what they had at the VA, but I’m not sure I would make it to stage 6 on the Bruce. I do want to try it now, and I have a decent treadmill at home to try it on.
I certainly appreciate your mentality with all of this stuff though, you’re certainly very health and safety concious, and I need people like you to reel me back in. I definitely lean towards thoughtful and calculated but reckless. I think a lot of the recklessness came about after my time in Afghanistan. I won’t give away too much info, because obviously I don’t want to give away who I am, but I spent time over there while serving in the USMC taking over the city of Marja in Feb 2010.
It made me appreciate life and what I have, but it also showed me how finite everything is and I don’t want to go out of this world without living life the way I want to, and having all of the experiences that make life wonderful.
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Amen, please don’t do that.
Not that you should try this at home but the original protocol had 10 levels.
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Haha, you don’t have to worry about that. I also just realized I don’t think my treadmill goes above 12.5%… in fact I don’t even know where to find a treadmill that goes over 12.5%.
Kinda pricey.
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No you are right, in the process of checking your Bruce score you may cause more damage.
That’s why goals like 315 lb bench press for 5 combined with 6 min mile with 20 lb vest are best suited for the younger crowd. Your heart is much more forgiving in your 20s.
But this whole moderation thing is lost on me. It creates a significant internal conflict in my skull.
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I’ve been doing almost exactly this. While doing this my BP has improved dramatically. 140/90ish → 122/78ish.
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I think that, more than anything else, the LISS and more frequent blood donations, have been the biggest game changer for me.
It seems that the effects of AAS are easily mitigated with a moderate amount of effort, or at least that has been my experience, and the experience shared with me by a few others. This is part of what led me to my logic the other day in another thread about the effects AAS have on your body when taking into account mitigation practices and overall quantity of hormone used.
Maybe it’s a poor conclusion to draw 
@tareload i forgot to mention that I also take salbutamol, but this is for actual asthma, not for cutting weight, although it is a nice side effect. I don’t take more than 4 mg/day and I only take it on training days in which my training is very intense, usually for strongman event days or GPP/conditioning days.
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If you have to plot this out with x-axis being “subject age” and y-axis being “probability of risk mitigation success” what would the 2D plot look like?
- horizontal line
- linear
- non-linear
Just curious on your thoughts. Thanks. Feel free to put 95 or 99% confidence limits on the plot as well in case we want to put some uncertainty in there.
For fun we can have different functions on the graph based on weekly dosage…(1) < 500 mg total/week, (2) >= 500 mg/week, (3) etc. Or we could make a 3D plot and have AAS weekly dosage as another axis.
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Hmm, I think we would need a 3D plot that showed adherence to mitigation practices on the z-axis. 
A 2D graph would definitely be a parabola, and it’s so dependent on user reactions to steroid and how much or little can be used before significant sides occur.
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Great point, human nature screws up the whole thing. Nevermind! 
For an individual, I wonder if it would be a logistic 3D plot something like this if we change the axis labels:
Maybe probability of success falls off with cumulative dosage and age. Cumulative dosage probably better on one of the axes than weekly dosage (?).
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You would have to subtract out the dosage that gets one to around median to high normal TT I would think?
A guy on 150 mg/wk and doesn’t deviate has a higher cumulative dosage than the guy who cycles 750 mg/wk for 10 weeks once a year. I think the former guy has less risk, even though his cumulative dosage is higher.
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Good point, let’s use the sumproduct of [delta(supra conc ng/dl) * time]. Nice one.
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I’m not smart or well read enough on these studies to know exactly what this all means and how it works, but it does appear that BPC-157 has a positive effect on the heart and it’s many mechanical and electrochemical process, as well as cardiac structure
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