Anyone else experience increased anxiety and insomnia when adding Tren to the mix? (Yes I know they are possible side effects)
If you have experienced these sides what have you done to combat them, besides stopping the Tren ? I’ve got about 4 weeks left of the tren and dont want to stop because of the gains I’m making but dont k ow if I can continue if these sides continue to increase. Any advice or input would be appreciated
What mix? Can you give a breakdown of the compounds your using and what doses. And how long ago did you add the tren.
Yes I experienced anxiety when starting tren ace about a week in it lasted for a couple weeks. It was a feeling of stimulation almsot that manifested into anxiety. I found staying busy mentally and physically helped me.
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Can bet your testosterone dosage is higher than 100mg/wk.
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I’m on TRT 200 mg / wk test cyp that I break up into 2 shots per wk. So .5 ml mon/thurs
I added tren e / test e mix about 5 weeks ago. (Not a huge fan of mixes but it was what I could get my hands on at the time) the mix is 300 mg/ml so 150 of each. I split the weekly dose of this and added .5ml to my mon/thur routine. So that puts me at 350 test per week and 150 tren per week.
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Ok so just a couple things that stand out to me are one you should never settle for a drug because that all you could get. Plan and source these are your hormones and body your messing with don’t just use something because it is all that’s around.
Second is tren E is not a good idea for first time tren use for this exact reason. If you do need to bail your gonna be stuck suffering for a couple weeks while you wait for it to clear out.
Third major changes happen in your body when you increase or decrease a testosterone dosage your body goes thru a whole new period of trying to find a proper ratio in regards to estrogen your male hormones are all out of wack for a period of time this in itself can cause anxiety and an emotional roller coaster.
And the last being I think that’s way too much testosterone when using tren. I personally go with low test (150-200mg/week) and higher tren but that’s not possible because you said you got a mix. High estrogen is not a friend of tren and that’s essentially all your doing by jacking up your test levels when using it.
So 4 weeks left and what to do. Well as you should know before ever using tren insomnia is a common side effect a lot of people get it. Tren is a CNS stimulant it’s normal to not feel tired or sometimes feel tired but your mind wont let you sleep. You can try OTC sleep aids or there’s a list about as long as the constitution of herbal shit that people say works. Then you have prescription sleep aids or you just try to over come it and do your best to sleep. The reason for the anxiety if coming from tren is for the same reason and you just need to learn to deal with it or if you can’t pull the plug now and tough it out for a couple weeks while the tren clears your system. That’s a relatively low dose of tren so it might be faster.
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As Zeek said, if you bail now you’re still going to suffer for another 2 to 3 weeks. If you plan on continuing for the next 4 weeks, then you’re going to suffer for the next 6 to 7 weeks.
Had you actually shopped around and used Ace, then you’d be over the sides in a couple of days.
I would drop the tren/test mix dosage to 1/2cc week. Less tren less sides. I run 250 test per week and 75mg tren e per week with no sides.
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Is there any point in running 75mg of tren?
Im curious about this too.
My opinion is no. With the enanthate ester your getting even less then 75mg of tren. I don’t really prescribe to the “run the lowest dose possible” school of thought but I understand it and respect it. But this dose just seems counterproductive in the sense your still putting the strain of tren on your body but not getting near the benefits you could out of the compound.
I know one argument will be the “tren is 5x stronger then test so 75mg a week is like 525mg of test” I hate when I see steroids compared to each other based on the anabolic:androgenic rating scale that’s not how any of that works lol
Does it make more sense to drop the trt cyp, and just run the mix? Either 1 ml (150/150) a week or 2ml a week (300/300) til it’s gone and go back to my reg TRT dose?
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No not really because once again your just gonna be messing with hormone levels again and you might end up feeling even worse.
At this is point I’d suggest just dropping the mix or toughing it out and just use it as a learning experience for the future.
Thanks for the input. I’m prob going to just ride it out I’ve already dealt with it this much and the gains r too much to just walk away lol. Appreciate everyone who gave advice
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Like with most steroids more is not always better. There has been experimentation done by a few guys running 100-125 test and 75-100 tren with very beneficial results. They do run a longer cycle than you would at a higher dose of tren. Like anything, it depends on your goals and how much risk you’re willing to take. Blood work was done every 8 weeks and adjustments made when necessary.