Yeah, I was just reading a very recent post by @KSman in which he mentioned IR increasing TSH.
I just wanted to check as I don’t want the results to come back and I end up being incorrectly diagnosed due to me doing IR
Just wondering if anyone has any experience of coming off of SSRI’s, SNRI’s or beta-blockers in order to see if they’re testosterone levels would increase?
@systemlord I am aware you mentioned my meds on your first post on my thread, but just wondering if anyone had any luck increasing their test by coming off these ![]()
Never had issues while on Klonopin, energy, libido and strong muscles, it’s when I reduced dosages in an attempt to taper that tanked T levels and a host of other withdrawal symptoms. The withdraw process can stress out the mind and body for a time, how bad depends on how long your body has depended on the drug. It felt as though I had 50 different side effects all at one time, I literally went crazy for many months.
Some medications replace the body’s natural functions. I couldn’t withdraw slow enough, wish I had a compounding pharmacy ground Klonopin into smaller pieces so I could withdraw over the years instead of months. Vyvanse helped tremendously throughout the withdraw process, each time things got bad doctor increased Vyvanse. Take it nice and slow.
Hi Guys,
Had my labs back today, it was TSH and Free T4 that my doctor checked as she didn’t want to do FT3.
Done s FBC, Ferreting etc aswel.
Just wondering if a private thyroid function test would be advised next based on these results, or IR?
It’s amazing how how ignorant doctors really are, there’s no way to tell if fT3 is alright without testing. I know let guess… Let’s assume it’s fine even though TSH is climbing. Healthcare at it’s finest!
Yeah it’s a joke ain’t it, I called up this morning to be told “Yes all normal, nothing to worry about”
Am I correct in thinking I should stay off the iodine for now and pay to get a full thyroid panel done?
I don’t see much point in going back to my doctor about this.
If everything is fine where is fT3? low fT3 will lower SHBG, yours is already low. Going off iodine can worsen results. Some doctors just don’t take their job seriously.
Yeah exactly, couldn’t agree with you more.
From my understanding low SHBG in men is generally caused by one of four things.
Hypothyroidism
Diabetes/insulin resistance
Hyperprolactinemia
Excessive androgen activity
If this is true surely a doctor shouldn’t have a problem in diagnosing the cause of low SHBG.
Hi Guys,
I was wondering if a restart would possibly increase my testosterone levels, as my LH, FSH seem okay ( Results First Post )
I have read the restart sticky but don’t know where I would stand.
I am just hoping this is an option before jumping back on to sustanon, as if I start back on trt I’m going to need to source HCG from the internet without a prescription.
Thanks in advance
Hey @systemlord
I’m not sure if you can help regarding my above question?
As you were very much in the same situation as me regarding low SHBG, tapering benzo’s etc.
I was wondering if I do have to go back on trt, as my doctor will only do shots every 10-12 days, would I be better trying testim gel to get a more constant T level due to my low SHBG? And if so what HCG dose would I need?
Hope you can help, Thanks
It would be better to get a competent doctor, one who understand what in the hell he’s doing instead of being stupid. He needs to get his head out of his *** and do a little research. There are tons of studies out there that are 12 years old showing why one injection beyond once weekly doesn’t work.
Thanks @systemlord,
I think the problem is, in the UK all of them follow the same protocol, and even though it’s crap they won’t budge an inch.
It looks as though I’m stuck with this situation so I have a choice of:
Finding out if there’s a possible restart.
Or going on daily gel, or shots every 10-12 days and sourcing my own HCG.
If I go on to shots every 10-12 days how much and how often should I use HCG? As I would like to stay fertile.
It’s called “standard of care”, it creates robots who are unable to think for themselves. Inject HCG 250iu 2-3 times a week to start. There was a recent shortage in HCG in the UK.
Medically the UK is so far behind, it’s sad. There was a law passed in the USA last year that allows physicians to move injections closer together since everyone is so different in the metabolizing testosterone at different rates. Their slowly cutting up the cookie cutter protocols.
I imagine the UK will follow suite in about 10-20 years. [sarcastic]
Lol, I wouldn’t be surprised if it takes at least 10-20 years.
Just to clarify the 250iu of HCG 2-3 times a week is with the shots yeah (not the testim gel).
As I will be having sustanon 250 every 10-12 days.
Also how long should i take this dose of HCG for before changing it, and by how much?
Sorry for all the questions, it’s just I appreciate your input as you were in the same situation as me.
I would start out 250iu twice weekly, so if you complain to your doctor on Sustanon 250 every 10-12 days that you feel off the last few days will your doctor still not work with you on moving injection frequency closer together?
Really there is no harm in doing so, I don’t understand their reasoning. More stable levels is actually better!
The problem is I don’t inject myself, it’s done by a nurse at my practice, and my endocrinologist knows that with injections every 10-12 days my testosterone level is still in the mid 20’s (nmol) a few days before my next injection.
So my testosterone level is constantly good while on sustanon but obviously I don’t know how my low SHBG affects this?
Hey @systemlord
I’ve spoken today with my endo’s secretary, and he’s wrote to my GP and informed him I can start back on trt as soon as I wish.
As I want to bank sperm and arrange HCG to go along with the trt before starting I will probably not have my first shot of T and HCG for around 3 months.
I was wondering if taking clomid or something in the meantime to boost my testosterone levels would do any harm?
I’m also in the process of exercising, losing weight and eating right as I have just found out I have fatty liver to some degree.
Is that from booze?
Well I was a big drinker some years ago, but I’m assuming it’s NAFLD since I only drink 2-3 times a year now.
Also @KSman
I know your not a huge fan of clomid, but if you could give me your input on my question above regarding using it until I bank sperm and start trt, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks, Steve

