Help with Oral Compound. What side effects have you gotten?

Needing help figuring what oral to run. I have Var for my cut so I’m looking at Dbol, Drol, or Tbol. This will be for my bulking faze in a few months.

I will be running Test at around 300mg, NPP 300mg and Deca at 400mg. I will stop the NPP at 6 weeks when the Deca Kicks in. I want to add an oral.

Now I’m prone to acne which is why I use Nandrolone and keep the test low. I really want to give Dbol a shot at a low dose. Around 20mg a day but am concerned about the acne. Tbol seems like it is low side effects but doesn’t seem right for my goals. Drol seems great but I know it can be toxic and a little harsh on the hairline.

What are your experiences with these compounds? Which did you like and what were side effects ridden?

I’m 6,6 250 at 12 percent BF right now and I’m in my mid 30s on TRT

why not just run npp higher with no deca? seems a bit wishy washy the cycle you planned. For bulking I would throw in Drol preworkout a couple days a week for 4-6 weeks at a time. So a cycle that looks like maybe 300 test, 1g npp, and 50-100mg Drol pre workout on weak body part training days. Also add growth hormone it is way worth the money

Tbol is very overrated, Dbol is worthless unless used as a cycle base for e2, but Drol is king especially for putting on mass

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Anadrol never touched hairline, lipids and liver enzymes were in range as long as you use proper ancillaries, and the only thing you have to watch out for is blood pressure it creeps up fast so telimisartan is required at a minimum, I would add nebivolol and eplerenone in aswell

I’m basically running the NPP until the deca kicks in. I get Deca through a doctor and I have vials of it. So I don’t have to mess with sourcing more NPP. I know my dosages are low but I respond well with low doses. I might titrate up as I go if all my bloods look good. I like the low dose longer cycles. Just my preference. Drol sounds amazing it’s really between it and Dbol. I’ve never ran either. So I like your idea with those compounds.

Hairline is the only thing that keeps me from running Drol. Obviously I’ve never touched it so I don’t know how I’ll be affected by it. Tren, mas, and primo I noticed shedding. Nandrolone just clicks with me. Little side effects and I feel great on it. Joints feel great, I put on slow quality mass, hairline isn’t affected at all. Low test higher nandrolone I get 0 acne. Only positive effect from it so far.

High test has been tolerated pretty well other than acne. But if I keep my E in check it’s not that bad. I’m not a high converter to E. Even on 500mg of test my E is in normal range. On TRT doses it’s low normal.

I’ve heard Dbol makes you feel good on it which has always interested me along with the strength increases. But I get worried about acne.

Drol of course seems awesome but I thought it would cause hair loss. It’s also pretty toxic but 4 weeks seems like I could tolerate it with the proper support.

I plan on running a 20 week test deca/NPP cycle at pretty reasonable amounts. Probably on the lower end to most people. I wonder if I did 4 week drol at the beginning and 4 weeks of Dbol at the end if it would be to toxic. Id use lower doses of them also. It would give me 12 weeks in between the 2 orals. Obviously I’d have to do blood work to see but it’s an idea.

If I have to choose one Drol seems like the better choice. Especially if hair thinning and acne isn’t as prone as some people suggest.

Dbol seem like it would feel great to be on it but if my body turns into a bloated acne filled mess I’d rather not bother with it. I’m confident I could control the estrogen especially with the amount of test I’m doing but from what I read the acne isn’t really from the Estrogen but the drug itself produces oily skin.

Appreciate the advice my man

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well if you get that deca from a doctor thats a good idea, i like your cycle besides you need growth hormone and maybe insulin if you wanna add that in. Dbol is absolutely the worst oral and should only be used as a estrogen base if you dont wanna run test. test plus the nandrolone with gh (possibly insulin) and that drol thrown in will give you amazing results if you follow a good regimen. Best of luck for your cycle bro

Thank you my man! I will look into your suggestions. I like the idea of HGH for sure.

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You do not need insulin.

That’s one misdose away from a coma.

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so fearmongered for no reason, insulin is very safe and easy to use if you have a IQ above 80 :joy:

gh/insulin will put you in the best possible state for growth and are bioidentical compounds so safety is very high with these

Cool.

I won’t use insulin but I may consider HGH. I got a decent price on some, but I don’t know enough on cycling it. I’m in my mid 30s, so I don’t want to be on HGH for the rest of my life but would consider cycling it. I’ll have to do a lot more research on HGH.

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does not effect your natural production whatsoever, you do need to be on year round for the benefits tho most people up the dose while on cycle and run lower doses 2-4 while cruising.