Discuss. Please.
Haven’t went back to Dr.
25Y/O
210lbs 6’1 3/4
Lifting weights since 16 Sophmore in High School
No Alcohol. No Drugs
Is there a reason you got your levels checked? Were you experiencing symptoms of low T? You need to tell us more what info you are after.
I can tell you I recently got on TRT because I was feeling depression/ mood swings and just wasn’t seeming like I was able to get any stronger in the gym. I got my blood work done and my total test was 300 which as you can see by the lab is garbage. I got on TRT immideately and felt WAAAAY better within a week.
I’ve been on 4 months and have nothing but good things to say so far.
Some history would help, but on the surface, those do not look good. Tripling your free testosterone would be a good start.
Total T levels appear to be barely decent, but really the free portion of testosterone is the stuff that matters and is bottomed out. Your LH is a better indication of T status, low LH usually means low testosterone.
You’re going to have problems with estrogen once you elevate testosterone because estrogen is already healthy, so if you double or even triple testosterone, I expect estrogen to double or triple as well putting you over the ranges (35> pg/mL) because you’re already at 26.
You need daily injections or you may have problems with estrogen sides. You should be using 27-29 insulin syringe and inject in the shoulders and quads.
I will look for the blood I got done before hand which was 2016.
I should be a lot bigger. I get depressed n space out with no drive.
Already have gyno that’s been developed. Got ultrasound and mammogram done. Have problems getting Care Credit to accept my credit.
You should stay away from HCG, injecting daily is even more important because the daily protocol will keep testosterone higher in relation to estrogen, this is exactly what you want to avoid problems.
Gyno occurs do to an imbalance of testosterone, estrogen, DHT and prolactin. If you contemplating gyno surgery, you should have the glands removed or you could see a return of gyno and money spent on gyno surgery was for nothing.
What are you recommending ? I tryed clinic and nolvadex for 2 months. It initially brought the pain and swelling down. Went on strict diet. With good results but flare ups came back so I stopped.
Started the Nolvadex (RX Prescribed) 3 days ago due to pain. Blood work from 2017 ( ***
The problem is you’re estrogen dominant, testosterone is very low and estrogen healthy closer to the top of the ranges. Testosterone should be higher (800) and estrogen where it is now.
Women naturally have higher estrogen in relation to their testosterone, your hormone profile is closer to females. I’m not even considering the Total T because it’s not bioavailable. If you were to get testosterone higher and estrogen lower in relation, you might see a small improvement.
I stopped TRT 4 months ago do to multi mineral deficiencies with the plans of restarting soon, I’ve notice my tits are bigger and a little sore at times, I know that when I restart TRT, the will man tits will disappear.
I really don’t want to go on TRT.
Maybe run clomid or nolvadex till death? Stay away from HCG? Even if I’m making “ok” test. It’s not getting off the bus where it needs to in my body *thinking face *
Yea. I feel like a bitch some days
These drugs stimulates estrogen receptors and increase estrogen, not what you want.
Think of a old grumpy man with low testosterone and estrogen dominance. I was was like this before I started TRT, TRT made me into a man again when I was on it.
Started Test Cyp. Injection today
6 weeks from now your levels will become stable at which point your body will start using these higher hormones levels which will be determined how other systems are functioning, those will need to fall inline before you start noticing the benefits of TRT.
Be aware that TRT will eventually result in no/low sperm count and thus infertility.
Low T is a bad situation to be in, no discussion, but just be aware of the consequence of long exogeneous T (TRT).
If infertiliy is a concern you can add low amounts of hCG when on TRT or go on a low Clomid (12,5 mg eod) without TRT an recheck.
Clomid does not increase estrogen, in fact it improves the T/E2 ratio and thats what you want.
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Thanks Gentlemen. Next pin is Wednesday. Took 20mg nolva for gyno flare ups if needed. Watching my diet as well. Seems to also cause flare ups. Still saving for surgery. Will get blood work in 5 weeks. Going to run 200 mg Test Cyp for sometime. Not permanent
Good evening meats.
3rd pin is tomorrow
Test Cyp 200-250 a week
Feeling like a young again. Wish I did this a long time ago. I can only my imagine at this point how I will feel by week 4-6. My muscles are looking great too! Diets in check. Eggs for breakfest. Eggs again at 10am. Lunch 5oz salmon and some carbs. 2pm more eggs. Dinner more eggs or chicken and some carbs. Just got some broccoli and potatoes at store along with apple sauce for the carbs.
FYI. I burn 2200 calories sitting around. So I really should be eating a lot more. Just living and money situation is working it’s way up atm.
I know a ton of people who’ve had kids that blast & cruise. I don’t know a single person who went on TRT that was forever infertile. I also don’t know anyone on clomid that raves about being on clomid.
Fertility is big business these days and the right doc can get just about anyone conceiving.
And I’ve got a fertility doc in the family so hopefully I’ll be good to go ![]()




