[quote]happydog48 wrote:
Ok, so your T is coming to you in a rubber stoppered vial, right? I don’t mean to be pedantic about the jargon, I just want to make sure I understand and the jargon all means something specific.
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Nah, that’s the problem, it’s not. However, I had another think about it and I’ll just draw it into different syringes once we decide how much to inject…Not quite that uneducated! 
[quote]Mr.Bill wrote:
“it comes in little syringes with a rubber cap on it.”
HappyD seems they get it in pre-filled syringes.[/quote]
Correct.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Well it looks like the endogenous test production has now truly stopped. Either that or it’s going to get even lower.
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It has - the doc tested LH and it was nil. (if I’m correct in thinking that’s the determining factor in whether the testes have stopped producing test?)
[quote]Basically, 100mg of test per week appears to only give your partner out-of-range low test.
Not good. I would personally go for 200mg per week.
I mean a 25% increase (100-125,g) in exogenous test is only going to have about a 25% or less increase in the blood level.[/quote]
I hear ya, but do you think it would be wiser to see how he goes with the test-e rather than sust first?
We’ve got test-e…
Really?? I thought that’s getting up near a weak cycle!
[quote]I don’t expect any side effects from 250 mg/wk that can’t be countered with a fraction more arimiex.
The benefits would be MUCH greater than 125mg/wk, IMO.
So, much reward, little risk.
That is just my opinion though.
Bushy[/quote]
Is that sust 250mg/ml?
Some report a lot of muscle pain from injecting that. But is is a drug that is heavily counterfeited. So the reports of pain may be for bogus gear.
If your sust is painful, perhaps that is the way that it is. There is no reason why you could not then use testosterone cypionate or ethanate… cheaper too.
[quote]KSman wrote:
Is that sust 250mg/ml?
Some report a lot of muscle pain from injecting that. But is is a drug that is heavily counterfeited. So the reports of pain may be for bogus gear.
If your sust is painful, perhaps that is the way that it is. There is no reason why you could not then use testosterone cypionate or ethanate… cheaper too.[/quote]
The sust that we had was 100mg/ml…but if you read my post above we’ve now got test-e. And there hasn’t been any muscle pain so far…(did you mean to respond to my thread??)
Sorry for the confusion!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Foxen wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Well it looks like the endogenous test production has now truly stopped. Either that or it’s going to get even lower.
It has - the doc tested LH and it was nil. (if I’m correct in thinking that’s the determining factor in whether the testes have stopped producing test?)
Basically, 100mg of test per week appears to only give your partner out-of-range low test.
Not good. I would personally go for 200mg per week.
I mean a 25% increase (100-125,g) in exogenous test is only going to have about a 25% or less increase in the blood level.
I hear ya, but do you think it would be wiser to see how he goes with the test-e rather than sust first?
You have 250 mg in a shot. I would inject half of it every third day (I doubt I can persuade you to inject EOD…?) until I could get test enan instead.
We’ve got test-e…
Yes, that will equal just under 250 mg per week. However that’s not an unheard of TRT dose by any means.
Really?? I thought that’s getting up near a weak cycle!
I don’t expect any side effects from 250 mg/wk that can’t be countered with a fraction more arimiex.
The benefits would be MUCH greater than 125mg/wk, IMO.
So, much reward, little risk.
That is just my opinion though.
Bushy
Ah good, you have test enanthate. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Now a ‘typical’ first cycle would be 500mg per week. Subsequent cycles will increase.
SO no, 250mg is not really what I would consider to be a cycle, although some will run that and call it a cycle.
Besides, even if it were a cycle, then as long as there are no negative side effects (BP increase and/or alteration of lipid profile for the worse), then what of it?
Bushy[/quote]
Nothing of it - nothing against steroids here (just not ready for that yet!) My point was that I thought that amount may have some negative side effects, but of course, everybody is different and we’d have to check those things…for now we’re going to go with the 125mg per week and recheck in 5 weeks, and adjust from there.
I’ve been on 200mg/week for the last year and a half, and my average blood level is right at 1000 TT. I have a friend that hits 1000 TT on 125mg/week, so changing your dosage and waiting 5 weeks is about right as T-Cyp or T-Enth both take four plus weeks to average a higher TT level according to their half lives.
Your man may not feel good at a 1000 TT level. Some guys don’t enjoy the “effects” of higher blood levels, but then again some of us do…