I’d like to start by saying this is a great forum with amazing information and excellent participation and very helpful feedback. Im just joining but over the past several years have been following many logs and used many of the articles to structure my own training.
I am 30 years old and have been using AAS for about 3 years now. About 8 months ago I was diagnosed with a neurological movement disorder. Between trial treatments, depression, and crashing with no PCT in mid cycle I just sort of quit the gym scene.
The good side is I just finally got cleared for TRT and am on androgel.
Im looking to “supplement” my TRT.
Prior to my bad luck I was about 235lbs 15% BF 6’2". Not eating ultra clean but not poorly. Doing about 5 days a week of westside - esque training with some crossfit for HIIT.
My big three 1RMs:
DL 505
BP 325
Squat 425
Looking for some advice on what to run now that I am able to. Part of me is thinking about a simple test e or sust at 500mg for 12-20 weeks with dbol kick start and winny at the end.
But I have a bunch of other stuff that I am itching to use, haha. Sort of want to try a Tren E cycle, but so much anecdotal information out there is contradictory.
I really look forward to the help and the discussions. And keeping a dedicated log to show my appreciation.
With regards to the Tren I see a lot regarding high tren and low test cycles, but am hesitant about going heavy on the tren as it would be my first cycle with it.
Additionally I have never had any sides while running any other AAS but I recognize tren is its own beast.
Is letro sufficient to run mitigate the potential sides. I ask because I have plenty that I have always had on hand, but want to know if I really need to track down caber to use with tren.
Also should I just run tren and test/sust or are there others that I could run (oral or inj) that would improve the cycle? Ive always thought less is more, but I have some deca mast win dbol and tbol kicking around. Wondering if I shoukd save it for subsequent blasts or incorporate it into my cycle?
What cycles have you done in the past? I’ve done a lot of research on Tren but yet to run it, all I can say on that is use Tren Ace for your first time. If you can’t handle the sides then it will be over in a few days. Also I’d get Caber if it was me.
Ive never used an inj tren. Did try oral tren for 4 weeks at 600mcg. Didnt have any issues, but at only 4 weeks not sure I would have seen any.
Prior to stopping I was essentially blasting and cruising from my third cycle on. Before anyone has a negative comment. I used to be a high lvl competitive athlete around 18-20yo and was essentially told to take steroids in off season to stay competitive at that level. Unfortunately pct wasnt what it is today and I never came back to normal levels and was told I didnt fit the demographic for trt until recently. Hence blast and cruise.
As for other AAS I have run. Always test e or sust. Long blast with eq once didnt really notice any great effect. Deca and mast are the onky other two inj I have used. Orals; winny tbol dbol anavar proviron.
I didnt want to use tren ace because due to my job I cant ensure that I can inject eod or ed. Whereas 1x 2x a week I can manage. I also hate pinning that frequently.
Now I have heard mixed things over sides from tren e and tren a. Yes I can stop tren a and it will leave me faster, but tren e would deliver less compound into my system resulting in less severe sides.